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42 Years ago Today, 4 Students & Anti-War Protesters were Massacred by a Tyrannical Government. RIP

Today is the anniversary of the Kent State Massacre. 42 Years ago today 4 student-protesters were murdered by the US government for practicing the first amendment. They were unarmed, and many of the injured bystanders. 4 innocent kids murdered, RIP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...

http://youtu.be/-OmZvyNrzAs

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This begs the question...

Must the tree of liberty always be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants?

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
- Thomas Jefferson

The Vietnam War did end. Besides these innocent young people, I do not know if any tyrants met a similar end. But, all of us here know and carry their sacrifice to the next battle of liberty versus tyranny.

SteveMT's picture

There is no doubt that this could happen again.

When a heavily drugged, universal-soldier military that is so stressed that they are suiciding at an alarming rate combines with a power-crazed government, anything is possible.

Sadly, you are correct.

Those that have power, seek it by building fear. I saw this at Kent. Now, I see it everywhere. Going through security at an airport comes to mind. People radiate themselves at very unsafe levels rather than stand as ask why or say no.

I was there.

I was a student there at the time. It was unreal. It seemed like a twilight zone. Kent is a great small college town. It was not some radical place like you would associate with a Berkeley.

I will never quite understand why the National Guard, which was mostly very young boys and young men, were called in. It was wrong. Just wrong.

That second song is awful...make it stop.

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Agreed. Nickelback ruined what started off as a good memorial...

video. Wrong in every way.

songs in tribute to student shootings

The Beach Boys-Student Demonstration Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwajGL8nI00

Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - "Ohio" (1970)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnOoNM0U6oc&feature=related

Steve miller - Jackson - Kent blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weHrsWfyPnw&feature=autoplay&...

RP R3VOLution

Republicae's picture

OMG...has it been that long?

OMG...has it been that long? The years have flown by folks, I remember watching it with horror!

http://militantjeffersonian.com

"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

Remembering that day with quiet prayer..

Thanks for posting..

I know this is beside the

I know this is beside the point, but you lost me at Nickelback.

I can't watch it either.

Damn copyright laws.

blocked

This video contains content from EMI, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

Wouldn't want the truth getten out would we.

Truthbearer's picture

This made...

...tears come to the eyes as the realization and memory of this horrible incident comes back today. Imagine going to a freedom rally and getting gunned down like this with .308 rifles that kill with one shot.

We must never forget these murders, and understand that this kind of tyranny is possibly just around the corner. The people who voted for that "change" in 08 are still in for a shock when they see what that really meant.

Today, we stand on the precipice of this same thing happening all over the country as they now prepare for the crash of the economy and ensuing martial law that will empower more of this killing of innocent unarmed citizens. Take that order for half a billion rounds of the .40 cal ammunition they ordered. They have and continue to prepare for this murdering of the American people every day.

Are you prepared for the mercenary troops that will come to your door some day?

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The Remnant will never

The Remnant will never forget. Many of us have been fighting ever since.
"None dare call it Treason" opened my eyes to gov't corruption at age ten in '64
The fight has been ongoing my entire life.
I am so glad to see America finally waking up.
hopefully before it is too late.

Thank you Dr Paul for curing the apathy. but really it isn't the doctor, It is the support he receives that finally gives us hope

Peace

Did an FBI informant fire the first shots?

Newly uncovered video footage from the incident shows that a suspected FBI informant, who fired gunshots before the National Guard opened fire, ran to the safety of police and immediately handed over the gun.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/new-kent-state-video-evidence-po...

This would support

the view that the National Guard fired in self defense as my friend, who was there in the Guard, says happened.

If so and in response to imminent danger

Why take the time
(according to popular accounts)
http://www.may4.org/information/kent-state-1970-description-...
to field practice and then fire in formation with a verbal command?

I don't reach that conclusion

From the linked article:

"70 seconds after Norman shoots his pistol four times, the national guard command to shoot at unarmed students is given & Norman hightails it out of there into the arms of law enforcement & immediately hands over his gun."

I didn't see any indication here that the NG troops were under attack - the implication is that the students attacked the FBI informant, who may have been justified in firing at them in self-defense.

Over a minute later, the command was given to the NG to fire on the unarmed students. That's not self-defense, IMHO. My guess is, given the escalation of the situation, was that the NG commander heard the shots, thought he was under attack, and gave an order to fire on the students.

Why the FBI would arm an informant and send him amongst the students is still up for speculation.

Oh, I would guess

the same reason the US Govt would claim they were fired upon in the famous/infamous "Gulf of Tonkin Incident".
He was useful to them (the informant).

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

I would suggest people get the full story on this incident

before passing judgement.

It is tragic that the students were killed. But there is much more to than that. I personally know a member of the National Guard that was on campus that day. He wasn't involved in the shooting but he knows those that were.

Anyway, many of the students were not students at all but agitators with a mission. There were numerous reports about terrorist groups with explosives and weapons converging there. This was a dangerous situation all around.

My friend personally saw many people charging the hill that the Guard was located carrying clubs with nails and other weapons. This was not a peaceful group of innocent students.

The ones killed maybe were innocent, which is indeed tragic, but the events of that day have a lot more to do with violent thugs than to do with willful killing by the National Guard.

Reminds me of South Park

On some episode of South Park, there's some news reporter saying, "We really have no clue, but we're reporting that there were terrorists firing on the troops..." or some such. Not to mention that in the 1960's the word "terrorist" hadn't even been coined yet.

Freedom is my Worship Word!

The reason the guard was there in the first place was

because the protesters were destroying property in the neighborhood and set one of the buildings on fire. It's not that I don't feel bad for those that were shot but If you chase and surround people with guns, you take your chances.

..this may be what some want

..this may be what some want you to think, but it did not happen like you parrot. There were a few rocks thrown. They mowed us down like a firing squad. These people were young, intelligent, PAYING students, and innocent of any death inviting crimes..

You sound like you were there

were you? Or did you personally know someone who was directly involved?

I do

How many violent thugs or NG. members were injured or killed?

As they say, the victors write the history. I'm a bit older than you but can remember this absolute instance of murder very well and can reassure you your friend of a friend's recount is in error. This was a well planned execution formulated to end the unrest on campuses across the nation and it worked. There were no organized antiwar demonstrations held anywhere across the nation's campus's after it was learned how ruthless Agnew and Nixon could be, after all they sent 50,000 kids to their death in Viet Nam, whats a few college students? The main point we should be addressing is, if they were that ruthless then, gunning down and bayoneting kids, what measures are they capable of now or have our ruler's discovered a more sympathetic and compassionate side? Get ready, I have a foreboding feeling we are soon about to find the answer to that rhetorical question.

If not us than who?

you weren't there and don't know anyone that was

so your point of view is not very convincing

I know someone who was intimate to the events that day, first hand. It was not as you describe in the least.

why are you defending them?

Go into more detail, if you dare.

Were any of the National Guard threatened or hurt? Not killed, certainly, and students were killed.

So, because there were "agent provocateurs" there at Kent State who threatened to cause trouble . . . students were killed.

Sounds familiar?

Because "someone" exploded the twin towers, innocent men, women and children have been killed in: Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan--

How can this be justified?

Show *us* the "agent provocateurs". It's been 42 years; surely you can speak up now.

The idea that *we* must accept that it's all right for students (whether protesting or not) to be killed on a campus, that *they* (the government, the military, etc.) know what is better for *us*---

is an idea *we* won't accept any more.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Why do you hate them?

It was a tragedy that the students were killed. I have said that. But there is a lot more to the story than the perception that the National Guard was just itching to kill. I will defend my friend by asking everyone to look for the truth because what you have read is not even close. He and the other guardsmen were not there to kill anyone. But they were keenly aware that there were some in the crowd that wanted to commit violence and destruction. It was a dangerous situation for all.