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Ron Paul @ NV Convention -Comments & News Open Thread

Friends, I will be live streaming Ron Paul's address to the Nevada GOP Convention tomorrow, May 5th. I created a ustream account to accomplish this:


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Can you elaborate?

Was it the state or the full body that decided to replace them? What vote ended up getting counted on the first ballot?

which would be fine because i

which would be fine because i believe we got majority of alternates as well... except D2

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Not in NV. The at large

Not in NV. The at large delegates and alternates were chosen in a batch by vote count. Unless I'm mistaken that makes the alternates essentially the Romney slate. So NV at-large delegates shouldn't risk their seats by individual action that might be ruled improper. (And it will be VERY IMPORTANT for all of them to try to show up.)

Seems to me, if we have a solid majority of dedicated delegates at Tampa, a correct approach might be to:
- use a point of order, before the vote, to ask for a ruling of the chair on whether binding of delegates is void at the national convention level. Then (if the chair rules it is not):
- appeal the ruling of the chair.
If we win that would unbind them.

If we don't have a majority then we'll need the support of the Newt and Santorum people. So then we might want to avoid doing anything to alienate them, and depend on their votes to block Romney on the first ballot.

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

thanks for sharing your

thanks for sharing your knowledge, makes better sense now!

But if their

first vote is counted, the replacement does not matter.

I think

they can even go rogue on the first round. It is a private party pledge, not a legal document. I doubt they can even be expelled from the party for that.
But they need consult a lawyer who knows by-laws - can the state delegation pull out a rouge vote itself? I doubt due to Rule "not to vote as a unit".

thanks for the helpful

thanks for the helpful answer!


Liberty_First is CNN reporter...Gloria Borger.

No unbinding

There will be no unbinding, this is a choice made by the campaign manager at the ground and I don't think that he made this choice by himself.

Given how organized the team in NV has been,

I think we've got to trust them on this one.

Central committee can call a meeting and do it if they want.



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Ron Paul supporters capture majority of NV national delegates

Ron Paul supporters capture majority of Nevada’s national delegates
Delegates to national GOP convention must vote in first round according to caucus results but are free to vote for others if there is a second round
By Anjeanette Damon (contact)
Sunday, May 6, 2012 | 9:38 a.m.
Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul succeeded in capturing the majority of Nevada's national delegates early Sunday, overwhelming likely nominee Mitt Romney with an organized contingent who easily took control of the state convention.

Although Republican rules require national delegates to vote according to the results of the Feb. 4 caucuses-- which Romney won with 50 percent of the vote-- 22 of the actual people going to the national convention in Tampa, Fla. are Paul loyalists.

Nevada delegates are bound by the caucus results on the first round of balloting in Tampa, but in the unlikely event of a second round of balloting, they can vote for their favored candidate.

Paul's campaign is executing a state-by-state strategy of capturing enough national delegates to influence the proceedings of the national convention.

In Nevada, Paul supporters won 22 delegates, while Romney supporters won three. Nevada also has three automatic delegates, most of whom have said they support Romney.

Following four years of planning, Paul's campaign succeeded in sending more delegates to the state convention in Sparks than Romney's forces could muster, giving them control of the process. [my emphasis.]

This story is developing. Check back for updates. [my emphasis.]

Doesn't sound like unbinding is going to happen...

I don't disagree if the RP leadership chooses not to challenge the issue in NV.

Let's realize the only reason we're able to have the success were having is because of all the caucus states. We've played by the rules of the game to maximize delegates. Flat out changing the rules at every state convention would be considered an abuse. Changing the state procedures to unbind delegates would cause a lot of backlash...i.e. in the form of more caucus states moving to primaries and so on.

We have to pick our battles. I think the long term effects of unbinding the delegates would be detrimental to our cause. I'm likely in the minority on this one, but I agree with Bunce and company on not challenging the issue.

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LV REVIEW-JOURNAL: Paul takes 22 Nevada GOP delegates

Paul takes 22 Nevada GOP delegates; Romney gets three
Posted: May 6, 2012 | 8:32 a.m.
Updated: May 6, 2012 | 10:01 a.m.

SPARKS -- GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul on Sunday nearly swept all of Nevada’s delegates to the national convention as his supporters swamped Mitt Romney backers at the state Republican convention.

Paul won 22 Nevada delegates to three for Romney, according to official vote tallies released early Sunday as the overtime convention extended into a second day to finish business.

motion has to come from the floor then to unbind....

...who has the stones?


I don't think it's going to

I don't think it's going to happen.

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Ha ha...

Yeah I really want to see someone make that motion. Has Bunce then decided not to try?

Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.


Unless all 22 want to get replaced with Mitt people.

If we don't have 2/3 it's

If we don't have 2/3 it's better not to bring it up. Then we can look better to the opposition.

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

Sounds like the chairman of

Sounds like the chairman of the Ron Paul campaign wants to skip unbinding in order to smooth things over with Romney supporters.

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

Carl Bunce

just said they aren't going to move to unbind the delegates.

- Grow Mushrooms at Home

This is a strategic option

This is a strategic option that only the campaign can demand, we don't know if they will request that or let it be.

They succeeded in scaring them


If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

No, nobody is scared.

We've made a rather strong statement as is. It's a strategic move not to challenge the issue. The NV team has been very impressive to date...give them the benefit of the doubt that they know what they're doing. They've earned that.

Come on CARL


Apparently the alternates

Apparently the alternates will be essentially the Romney slate.

So the Paul slate needs to all show up in Tampa!

(Can we change the rules on that and hold an election for alternates?)

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"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

Too Late

That should have been motioned for to change in the rules BEFORE they were adopted yesterday. I knew that we would only get the delegates and not the alternates because of this. But hey.....RP people SHOW UP so I am sure all of those wonderful 22 delegates will BE there in Tampa!

They just won't be able to get up AT ALL to go to the bathroom lest a Romney alt be waiting in the shadows to snatch their seat. (seriously, that can happen).



Live feed

This live feed and watching the people in NV has been fun and entertaining. Sounds like its a fun place to be a Paul supporter.

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Good morning...

...to all and congratulations to all the new delegates from Nevada.

Thank you all for your hard work and all night adventures.

Onwards to Tampa!