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The End the Fed Deception

When Ron Paul stands in front of his cheering supporters as they chant “End the Fed,” “End the Fed,” “End the Fed”…. There are two meanings that are being projected and two interpretations that are simultaneously set in motion from that chant:

The first meaning and interpretation comes from Ron Paul supporters. A large number of Ron Paul supporters who chant “End the Fed” didn’t learn about the Fed through Ron Paul, they learned about the Fed from online documentaries exposing the true nature of the Fed… that it’s a private central bank owned by private banking families out of London and Wall St that are decedents from the original goldsmiths that are hell-bent on establishing their New World Order through the control of the world’s money systems.

The second meaning and interpretation of “End the Fed” comes from Ron Paul, the owners of the Federal Reserve and those in the mainstream public. They mean it and interpret it as “End the Fed” meaning, ending the big federal government.

When Ron Paul goes on the mainstream networks he says either “End the Fed” or more often “curtail the Fed” within the same context as “ending or reducing big Federal government, or the Federal government shouldn’t be running the economy. Allow the “free market” to function and keep the Federal government out of the economy. Well the mainstream viewers are interpreting that to mean that the Federal Reserve is a part of the Federal government… when RP says “End the Fed”.

This is the exact perception that the owners of the Fed want the general public to have, that it’s the government who owns the Fed and the Fed is part of the government and the Fed has nothing to do with “running the economy” and it’s the government making the Fed print all this money, and not for the private owners of the Fed and their banks, but for the “big government.”

The deceptive solution offered to solve this deceptive problem is to give more power to the “free market” and take more power away from “big government.”

This is deceptively moving the American people towards a global financial system controlled by world government. The ”free market” does not mean the “free USA market”… the “free market” means the “free GLOBAL market.” And the ones who are controlling the “free GLOBAL market” are the same ones who control the US domestic market by controlling the money and interest rates… they are the private owners of the Federal Reserve.

With a less powerful US government unable to have any say in the affairs of the “free GLOBAL market”, lest they interfere with the natural “laws” and “principles” that naturally regulate the market for the benefit of the majority and not the few (another deception), it will be much easier for the USA and its people to be cleverly merged into a new global “free market” where all world “governments” are to keep their paws off and allow the natural “laws” and “principles” to regulate the "free market" global economy for the benefit of the majority under the stewardship of private interests (owners of the Federal Reserve). To assist this global “free market” they’ll need “sound money”… money the world can trust…. money that’s partially back by “value”

One expedient way to deceive the American people, and all the nations of the world, into a global “free market” is to trick them into thinking that they still have their currencies and that their currencies are “competing” on the free world currency market where in actual practice all currencies will be the same because they’ll be backed by the same amount of commodity and they’ll all bear the same interest rate as determined by the true owners of the new currency(ies) who will be the current owners of the Fed.



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That response is hilarious,

That response is hilarious, but not at all surprising!

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sorry ...

I had to do it . http://youtu.be/hkodTydUR0E

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Absolutely perfect for the

Absolutely perfect for the occasion!

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"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

Ron Paul doesn't mean End the Fed

when he says End the Fed, writes a book about ending the Fed, gets himself appointed to a position on domestic money so he can grill the Fed and talks every chance he gets about sound money, fiat currency and Ending the FED?

What a crock.

Free and Brave
or Cradle to Grave
You can't have both

The American mainstream viewer

The American mainstream viewer thinks the Fed is a department of the US government... and when Ron Paul goes on MSM, in front of the mainstream viewers, he purposely sustains that illusion by saying it's the government that's running the economy and chooses not to mention that the Fed is a private corporation owned by bankers out of Wall st and London.

On mainstream networks Ron Paul is not exposing the men behind the curtain that own America. Americans need to know that they are slaves and they need to know who their masters are and Ron Paul is not letting them know through mainstream channels.

Maybe that will start to change because someone has the courage to go on a forum amidst rabid RP supporters and say something about it.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
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What a load of crap!

luckily you didn't waste any paper or ink. Only my time. Give me you adress, I'm sending you a bill.

Now it's about the Constitution and the fight to defend it.

It’s all about trying to trick the people

It’s all about trying to trick the people into irrationally hating everything about government to allow for the private management of everything, especially and most importantly, the private management of money. It’s not “government” that’s at fault but it’s evil people in the government under the control of private interests that’s at fault. It’s like being tricked into throwing the baby out with the bathwater and in its place putting Damien the demon child.

The only way the people can exercise their collective power against private tyranny is through the tool of government. You need government... and you especially need government to manage the money on behalf of the people, not government under the control of private interests like we have now. The management of the money must be the most sacred trust of government. This is the truth the American people need to hear and they’re not getting it from Ron Paul.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
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What a crock! You seem to

What a crock!

You seem to have a compete disconnect between what reality is and what you assume it to be. You mistake the desire and hope for the restoration of the Constitutional Republic with, in some odd fashion, an irrational hatred for everything about government. The desire here on the DP is simple, RESTORE THE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC! The question is why do you have such a problem understanding that desire and, in your confusion, mistake it for something entirely different, and obviously in your mind so very distorted?

Government tyranny is no worse than private tyranny, they are both tyranny, in fact, you will find far more examples of government tyranny over the lives and property of people than you will through private tyranny, by which I assume you mean corporate tyranny. Perhaps worse than both is the system as it is now in place: Mercantilism, the mixture of government power and corporate power. In such structures we don’t have the luxury of separating the two and because such Mercantilist systems hold incredible advantages to both government and its corporate patrons. You assume, because of your current faith in a particular world view, that the government is not culpable, when in fact, it is the prime instigator of Mercantilism and has been since the 1860s. Every monopoly that exist or that has ever existed in this country is the result of government action and protectionism.

You make the government sound like an innocent victim, subjected to the horrors of evil people, when in fact this government is nothing more than a system that has been subverted, co-opted by Statists and has operated illegitimately for the last 150 years. We have not lived under a Constitutional Republic, nor a free market for generations.

Where you get the idea that the management of money is the government’s most sacred trust is beyond me, certainly the Framers of the Constitution didn’t view it that way, they knew better than to place such power in the hands of government, even the newly formed Constitutional government they had just helped to create. In fact, the Framers of the Constitution were extremely careful to place very defined limitations on this government, curtaining its ability to create of money, by deeming that all paper money was prohibited.They were aware of the dangers, that’s why they enumerated ONLY GOLD AND SILVER be used as money in this country. They knew that all paper money leads to exactly what we have now: Mercantilism.

Until you understand the connections, the system of Mercantilism you will continue to be confused and exhibit that confusion in your postings.

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This is exactly the kind of d#ck

that shouldn't be on the mail-out.

Now it's about the Constitution and the fight to defend it.

Government cant manage to

Government cant manage to wipe its own a$$. You think I want those corrupt idiots managing the money supply? The only thing worse than that is what we have now. Its all about control freaks...they try to control everything with devastating consequences(just look at fannie may and freddie mac). Just because you can do something does not mean you should. Wisdom is sometimes simply restraint, sometimes you just have to choose not to try to excersize control.

Not "government"

it's the people IN government, wicked93gs. The solution is to have good honest people in government... good people, not wicked people are the answer.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odcGSi286a4&feature=plcp&cont...

next time you meet

a non-wicked person who wants power to rule over others, let us know where the exit to that Unicorn land lies.

It's like have you met a human, lately?

Predictions in due Time...
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"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

You really need to read

You really need to read Bastiat's "The Law". The ONLY purpose of government is defense of civil liberties(they dont grant these liberties, they only defend them). To do any more than that, the government oversteps its bounds, the founder's did everythig they could to chain the government to just that role...however, as evidenced since that time...they didnt think of everything and government is now a malignant cancer in the last stages before it kills its host.

Lets not forget that RP wrote

Lets not forget that RP wrote a whole book on *gasp* ending the federal reserve...if at the same time it means reducing federal power...all the better

I didn't forget about the book

Ron Paul needs to say the important things on national TV not just in a book.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
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Some Good Points


soleprobe makes some good points which should be acknowledged.

It is not "The Government" folks that: a) Creates/"Prints" Money, b) Decides Q1/Q2/Q3, or c) BRIBES the politicians.

It is The Private BANKING Cartel (i.e., "The Federal Reserve Monopoly") that does these things.

The criminal class is this private power which is above the Laws.

So whenever you hear people complain about "government printing money", that is wrong. It is the Banking Oligarchs who are deciding that policy.

We live under a Master-Slave relationship, but it is not "The Government" that is the Master. It is the Banking Monopoly that is the Master, and believe it or not, "The Government" (elected government) is THE SLAVE to this private cartel.

The Bankers took over this Country, by talking over "The Government" from the inside out.

Now, some will say but it was "the government" who created the Federal Reserve. Not the full story. The plan for the Federal Reserve was created on J.P. Morgan's Jekell Island resort by private Bankers. It was their plan (Rothschilds, Morgan, Rockefeller, Warburg, etc.). And it was swindled through Congress, through the act of bribery, deceptive talking-points, and by having a guy on the inside Nelson Aldrich to fool people. Woodrow Wilson signed it because he was financed by The Bankers when he ran for President (not unlike Obama or Romney).

If we had a political system where there was no bribery, and no private financing of politicians permitted (they were all given free equal-time, and equal-access to make their point over a short election period) -- then there would not be all this corruption that has gone on for over 100 years.

Just cutting spending will not solve this problem.
And just cutting "government" will not solve this problem.
For private Big-Money will always exist, and always corrupt.

You actually need a stronger form of government (than what we have today) which is able to take the power back away from The Rothschilds, and this evil, New World Order Banking Cartel.

A weak government gets inflitrated by selfish, private power.
A strong government would make money and bribery irrelevant to the Election Process, and put control over Money in Sovereign hands -- not private hands.

Such a government, would not be infiltrated by private power any longer, and could finally operate to serve the common people -- and not The New World Order Agenda.



A strong government is the

A strong government is the tool to coerce and corral the people. Without a strong government, people are generally free to pursue their lives and prosper.

While its true that there will always be rich people and poor masses, the rich have far fewer tools to exploit the public without a strong central government.

When government cannot force people to go to war, then people can opt out by not signing up for military service to man the war. When there is no income tax or property tax, people have a strong check on whether they want to fund the war. Meanwhile when there is a legitimate threat to the country, America has not generally had a shortage of manpower or finances to defend its citizens. I suspect this trend would continue if a true external threat emerges. This dynamic protects the country while mitigating the ability of powerful individuals to manipulate the populace.

In sum I disagree that a strong government is needed. Government has the power to prosecute criminals who are defrauding others. If, as is often the case, the government fails to prosecute the powerful, then the powerful may get away with some crimes. But they are always subject to any local sheriff or prosecutor bringing charges against them, limiting their ability to conduct crimes on a wide scale.

Strong central governments create powerful tools for the rich to oppress the poor. Decentralized governments limit their ability to do so, while subjecting them to any maverick sheriff in whose jurisdiction they commit a crime. Much more dangerous to the elite, in my opinion.

It Takes Strength to Overthrow THE ROTHSCHILDS


To finally overthrow The Rothschilds (and their private Bank Cartel), and win back our Independence would require an act of tremendous strength, and a WAR-ROOM focus.

Where is that strenth gonna come from?

This is actually why we have "government" in the first place, to protect us from enemies both foreign (Rothschilds) and domestic (Morgan, Rockefeller).

We weren't protected from these private monsters because our government was too weak, and because human beings will mostly succumb to bribery and threats if enough money is put on the table.

This is the problem that we have to solve.
I think this Revolution-movement should stop being so unfocused, and call out The Rothschilds/Morgans/Rockefellers by name and make them the public enemy.

But complaining about "The Fed" is confusing, because when the Bank Cartel overthrew our government, they used a deceptive and misleading name (Federal Reserve) to make it appear that The Government is still in charge of the money (which they aren't).

But it is a private Bank Cartel that has all the power.
It takes strength to defeat this!




Actually - I don't think it

Actually - I don't think it takes the kind of strength you refer to. Strength to overcome a united, disciplined and well-equipped military force is one thing.

You seem to suggest that this kind of strength is required to overcome the banking dynasty, and in that I disagree.

The reason is that the banking dynasty is contrary to the interests of the vast majority of the people. Yet they require our compliance and willingness to staff their ranks, pay our taxes, collect our taxes, and look the other way while they use our money to pursue empire abroad and undermine our rights at home.

Etienne LaBoettie(sp?) provides a great commentary in this matter, but in regard to government oppression of its own people. In general, the banking dynasty dominates us through our ignorance. So defeating it simply requires widespread knowledge of how we are being duped, and an organization committed to changing the political structure to prevent the banking dynasties' perversion of private property rights and equal protection under the law.

The 'strength' you mention is not the strength required to beat an army, but the devotion required to overcome political hacks. This is being accomplished now with Ron Paul political supporters taking over local and start GOP platforms. This takeover and knowledge of its constituents is our best chance in 100 years of removing the yoke of tyranny that is central banking.

Up until recently

I thought the majority of Ron Paul supporters knew everything that you outlined in your above post. I never felt it was necessary to reference Edward Griffin's book "The Creature From Jekyll Island". I thought up until recently that when it came to RP supporters this understanding about the Fed was a given. It was like Christians understanding that Christ had risen from the dead. It was people with this fundamental understanding about the true nature of the Fed that galvanized support around Ron Paul in 2007/08.

Now when you come around Ron Paul supporters on a Ron Paul forum and bring up that fact about the private nature of the Fed you get down voted. And when someone with the word "Evil" in their user-name says "We the People" are the Fed, not one poster gives evidence in disagreement. I have to ask myself, what exactly is this "movement" about because the way it looks right now it's not about "freedom" and "liberty"?

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
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You are not getting voted

You are not getting voted down because you say the FED is evil, but because you have a particular position that has been shown time and again, to be inaccurate and based purely on certain assumptions promoted by certain people like Bill Still, Ellen Brown, Eustace Mullins, Mike Montagne, etc. Additionally, the fact that you are a proponent of a Greenback System as a solution hardly recommends you to anyone who wants a return and restoration of the Constitutional Republic. You promote the Greenbacker system as though that is a means to restore Liberty and Freedom, but such a system is nothing more and would be nothing more than yet another system of the STATE, controlled and managed by the government to benefit the government in the same way the FED does!

I assume that you have read The Creature from Jekyll Island, but have you read this in the appendix?

"The federal government does not own any stock in the System. In that sense, the Fed is privately owned. That, however, is misleading in that it implies a typical private-ownership relationship in which the stockholders own and control. Nothing could be further from the truth. In this case, the stock carries no proprietary interest, cannot be sold or pledged as collateral, and does not carry ordinary voting rights. Each bank is entitled to but one vote regardless of the amount of stock it holds. In reality, the stock is not evidence of “ownership” but simply certificates showing how much operating capital each bank has put into the System." G. Edward Griffin

Of course now, you have to rail against G. Edward Griffin because he contradicts your position in no uncertain terms.

The Fault is not in the Stars or on the DP...I suggest you quite trying to place blame everywhere else and take a good look in the mirror for your answer!

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Ron Paul has said

dozens of times and I heard him in Madison Wisconsin say he would like the Federal Reserve abolished on their 100th anniversary in 2013.
I also have heard Ron say Gold and Silver should be legal to compete with the Federal Reserve Note or any other government established money.

"any other government established money."

I heard Ron Paul saying more than dozens of times that he would like to "abolish" the Fed. Is not "End the Fed" the same as "abolish the Fed?

And we do not have "government established money"... we have private banker established money... the Federal Reserve note is privately owned, not government owned, and lent to the government and the American people at interest. We need "government established money."

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odcGSi286a4&feature=plcp&cont...

Disagreed

It's the fact that the governement imposes those crooks' phoney money that allows them to run their crooked game. Without that monopoly -- enforced through naked political (i.e. judicial and police) power -- they could do all they want, it would serve them little.

The Federal Reserve may be technically private, but it matters not all that much. Governments have established and are enforcing that monopoly. Whether it's bureaucrats or plutocrats running the institution itself is but a detail, as it couldn't run without the monopoly.

Ron Paul sees (correctly, IMO) the Federal Reserve as a facilitator of big gov't. Gov't and the financial elite run a partnership operation here. Ending the Federal Reserve will seriously hamper the government's operations in general and cancerous growth in particular. It is but a step on the way, but a major one.

Ron Paul is not against global “free trade”

Ron Paul is not against global “free trade”… Ron Paul is not against global “free markets” Ron Paul is not against global “competing currencies”… Ron Paul is not against all national governments being very small and allow a global “free market” to naturally regulate industry and trade… Ron Paul is not against a global money system that’s not controlled by governments but controlled by competing private interests in the free global currency market.

Edit: Ron Paul is facilitating the process towards world government in the hands of private interests through the unregulated global "free market"...

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odcGSi286a4&feature=plcp&cont...

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It is quite obvious that you

It is quite obvious that you have never really read anything that Dr. Paul has said on the subject, for if you had then there is no possible way for you to make such absurd assertions! Again, you base your position on one of ignorance and seek to promote that position even though you have absolutely no leg to stand on! Essentially, what you are showing us is that you really don't give a hoot about the truth as long as you can try to win someone over to your obviously deceptive agenda. I am glad you are not smart enough to actually deceive the good people here on the DP, you can't conceal your tactics too well can you?

Here read these from the Archives of the Ron Paul Library, of which there are literally scores on the subject.

http://www.ronpaularchive.com/2000/05/china-bill-is-not-free...

http://www.ronpaularchive.com/2007/09/regulation-free-trade-...

http://www.ronpaularchive.com/2001/04/free-trade/

http://www.ronpaularchive.com/1999/03/free-trade-rhetoric-of...

http://www.ronpaularchive.com/1999/06/free-trade-makes-sense/

http://www.ronpaularchive.com/2001/04/free-trade/

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"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

In some ways we already have

In some ways we already have a world currency and it's called the U.S. Dollar.

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At one time, Gold and Silver

At one time, Gold and Silver were global currencies, recognized and exchanged with few problems. Until 1858, every type of foreign coin circulated in this country as money, but the difference was that all those different coins were based on an honest weight of either gold, silver or copper.

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"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

Exactly

a few minor tweaks and we'll be part of the global order in no time... see how deceptively it's creeping forward

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odcGSi286a4&feature=plcp&cont...