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Louisiana Democrats trying to stop electoral college voting process. Vote 2pm today

Letter today from Jason Dore, Louisiana GOP, telling us that there is a vote today trying to stop the Electoral College Voting Process in Louisiana, and go to popular vote. First I heard of this.

Fellow Conservatives –

Today, the Louisiana House of Representatives will be considering the National Popular Vote Compact. The vote is expected shortly after the House convenes at 2 p.m. this afternoon. Please call your state representative and urge them to actively oppose HB 1095.

You can look up your Representative here, find their contact info here, or call the House switchboard at 225-342-6945.

Kevin Kane, President of the Pelican Institute for Public Policy, issued a simple one page paper detailing 6 reasons why the National Popular Vote Compact is not in Louisiana's best interest. To read his paper, click here.

This movement to scrap the Electoral College system as it was set up by the Founders is supported almost exclusively from left wing groups such as the Louisiana Democrat Party, Common Cause, and the American Civil Liberties Union.

Let's put a stop to this legislation today! Please call and/or email your state representative before 2 p.m.

Thank you for all that you do.

Sincerely,

Jason Doré
Executive Director
Republican Party of Louisiana




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Many Louisiana Republicans are in favor of NPV!!!!!!!!!

Don't let Dore fool you into thinking it's just the Democrats!!!!! A bunch of GOP reps have declared their support!

Don't want the NPV now that Paul was won Louisiana

My fear is that they will try to pass this and apply it retroactively.

politepaulite

The NPV will only be applied

The NPV will only be applied when enough States have passed it to total 270 Electors; currently they are at 132 Electors(9 States passed it) plus whatever would be added if Louisiana passed it. I still think we should fight this tooth-and-nail, because these people have been pushing this for years and they aren't going to stop until they get their 270 Electors.

http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

Still want Paper ballots with witnesses when counted

No matter what the outcome, I want better accountibility when it comes to counting the votes.

politepaulite

I would like paper ballots

I would like paper ballots also, but I think we must stop this whole idea of National Popular Vote; it is the road to tyranny. No, minor candidate would ever be able to be elected President without the Electoral College vote. It would be like binding all delegates to the popular vote nationally; do you think RP would get delegates in that kind of system?

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We need to support this man so others may follow.

The National Popular Vote Bill

The National Popular Vote bill preserves the constitutionally mandated Electoral College and state control of elections. It ensures that every vote is equal, every voter will matter, in every state, in every presidential election, and the candidate with the most votes wins, as in virtually every other election in the country.

Under National Popular Vote, every vote, everywhere, would be politically relevant and equal in every presidential election. Every vote would be included in the state counts and national count. The candidate with the most popular votes in all 50 states and DC would get the 270+ Electoral College votes from the enacting states. That majority of Electoral College votes guarantees the candidate with the most popular votes in all 50 states and DC wins the presidency.

Unable to agree on any particular method, the Founding Fathers left the choice of method for selecting presidential electors exclusively to the states by adopting the language contained in section 1 of Article II of the U.S. Constitution-- "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors . . ." The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly characterized the authority of the state legislatures over the manner of awarding their electoral votes as "plenary" and "exclusive."

Historically, virtually all of the major changes in the method of electing the President, including ending the requirement that only men who owned substantial property could vote and 48 current state-by-state winner-take-all laws, have come about by state legislative action.

The Republic is not in any danger from National Popular Vote.
With National Popular Vote, the United States would still be a representative democracy, in which citizens continue to elect the President by a majority of Electoral College votes, to represent us and conduct the business of government in the periods between elections.

In Gallup polls since 1944, only about 20% of the public has supported the current system of awarding all of a state's electoral votes to the presidential candidate who receives the most votes in each separate state (with about 70% opposed and about 10% undecided). Support for a national popular vote is strong among Republicans, Democrats, and Independent voters, as well as every demographic group in virtually every state surveyed in recent polls in closely divided Battleground states: CO – 68%, FL – 78%, IA 75%, MI – 73%, MO – 70%, NH – 69%, NV – 72%, NM– 76%, NC – 74%, OH – 70%, PA – 78%, VA – 74%, and WI – 71%; in Small states (3 to 5 electoral votes): AK – 70%, DC – 76%, DE – 75%, ID – 77%, ME – 77%, MT – 72%, NE 74%, NH – 69%, NV – 72%, NM – 76%, OK – 81%, RI – 74%, SD – 71%, UT – 70%, VT – 75%, WV – 81%, and WY – 69%; in Southern and Border states: AR – 80%,, KY- 80%, MS – 77%, MO – 70%, NC – 74%, OK – 81%, SC – 71%, TN – 83%, VA – 74%, and WV – 81%; and in other states polled: AZ – 67%, CA – 70%, CT – 74%, MA – 73%, MN – 75%, NY – 79%, OR – 76%, and WA – 77%. Americans believe that the candidate who receives the most votes should win.

NationalPopularVote

Centralization is never the best answer

Right now a state gives all it's electoral votes to the candidate that wins it's majority. This ensures that states predominantly populated with voters with rural interests are allowed a rural voice.

The census and urbanization may ultimately destroy this fragile alliance between those whose hard labor produce the raw materials of basic needs and those who feel they are entitled to them.

But not by my hand will I destroy this country and adopt democracy: a proven route to tyranny.

I pledge allegiance to the Republic.

You want to work on voter representation? Demand all votes on paper and a video system that anyone can be an observer to.

WOW! A 3+ Year TROLL!

Another MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE TROLL.
...Posts are related to ONE SUBJECT:
NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE BILL
Get Lost MOLE!

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Why don't you peddle your

Why don't you peddle your National Popular Vote bs somewhere else? I like how you copy and paste their website. The majority of us here know that without the Electoral College the possibility for a small minor candidate to ever be elected President is nil, and therefore it is not supported here.

Actually...

...few understand the arguments for and against.

You are right, but people lose focus and often tend to go for things which are wrong.

the National Popular Vote Compact

..is NOT in anybody's best interest.
Yes, I remember Hillary stating (after the Dems 2000 loss) that we need to go to a "Popular Vote System"....and I agreed!

But...I was less informed back then.
This current Election/Nomination cycle along with you fellow DPers
has educated me to the truly unexplored hidden-until-now wisdom of
our Founding Fathers.

I know better today...
Thanks fellas!

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

I second that

Can you say sheeple.

I've been saying to watch out

I've been saying to watch out for this National Popular Vote for a while now, and surprisingly many on DP support this idea to have a National Popular Vote. Anyway here is their website NPV; they already have bills passed in 9 States or 49% of the 270 Electoral College votes, with bills in every single State. Their website is full of information about which States, and when, are voting on these NPV bills. It is definitely something to keep an eye on.

Plus vote out the crooks who support or sponsor this.

They DO NOT represent me or any other citizen who live in this country. These losers have been bought out and have sold their votes for greed and power.

"For Life, For Liberty, and For Freedom, OUR MOVEMENT IS ONE... And We Will Change The Course of History!!"

I remember Hillary Clinton saying we should..

Abolish the electoral college on a national TV broadcast. Here is a story from See BS in 2009 about this subject.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-250_162-248645.html

Did Hillary Have the Advance Knowledge

That George Soros would be involved with the Voting Machines?

Real easy to "program" a "winner" with a Spanish-Firm tied to a
NWO-Globalist such as Soros.

Or to "flood" the vote process with Illegals as the Dems have been trying to do since day one...

The ELECTORAL COLLEGE was created as a safeguard against these plots and others like it.
Like delegates at a National Convention they are somewhat obligated to vote as per"the rules"...but can ultimately do this:
THEY CAN VOTE THEIR CONSCIENCE
...You won't hear this on the Mark Levin show..
nor will he mention it in his books...but I was taught this.

In a public school ,Junior High School SOCIAL STUDIES Class.
Thank you Mr Mike Campbell (my teacher grades 7,8,9)
Thank You to our wonderful FOUNDING FATHERS.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

As far as I am aware of you

As far as I am aware of you are correct about Electors being able to vote their conscience with minor impunity(fined for not voting the way they were supposed to), with the exception of Minnesota which invalidates any Elector vote which isn't the way it was supposed to be, they then proceed to change the vote to what it was suppose to be; so in all actuality Minnesota doesn't need Electors, because their Electors have no choice in the way they vote.

Warning!!!

This is an attempt to kill the republic, this is out of the question.

They start like this by passing small bills here and there and in the end you will have no republic left.

HB 1095 La. House of Representatives vote Mon 5/7/12

This bill came out of no where after Ron Paul's Win.

From The Pelican Post Reasons that the Popular Vote is not necessary

http://www.thepelicanpost.org/2012/05/04/six-reasons-to-reje...

politepaulite

BUMP!!!

IN THE END DEMOCRACY KILLS ITSELF!!

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?
http://youtu.be/yNF09pUPypw

I think this might be the big push from now on.

This is the first logical endpoint of the "takeover" phrasing being pushed by the media. Rigged popular elections via electronic voting machines are so easy to implement and hide that the establishment no longer needs the complexity of the caucus system to maintain control.

IMPORTANT BUMP-ACTION REQUIRED NOW: LA VOTERS

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A.Hansen

Wow.. Really?

Can they do that?

It does not seem likely,

It does not seem likely, since it would violate Constitutional Law..of course, they may not care about that and a lawsuit would have to ensue..

It doesn't violate the

It doesn't violate the Constitution, since the Constitution allows the States to decide how to allocate their Electors; these Bills are being passed by individual States to allocate their Electors to vote for the National Popular Vote winner. I certainly hope this can be stopped. Check out their website because it has up-to-date information on the Bills to be voted on and which States are about to vote on the Bills; they have Bills introduced in every single State. Here is their website: http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

Trying to undermine Ron Paul's Win in Louisiana

THis wasn't even a topic until his win 2 weeks ago. Also, it is easier to rig voting machines than paper ballots with people watching the count.

politepaulite

They have been introducing

They have been introducing Bills in every State for many years now; this isn't new. Check out their website to see the status of the Bill in your State; maybe you live in a State which already passed the Bill, since 9 States have passed it.
http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/