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The GOP Should Thank Us - Not Fight Us

Instead of fighting Dr. Paul (and us) the GOP should be thanking us for STAYING in their party and trying to CHANGE the party platform to reflect REPUBLICAN ideals.

While most republicans are watching "Dancing With the Stars" or playing golf, WE ARE THE ONES EDUCATING AND FIGHTING for Constitutional / Conservative values.

They should count their blessings that we care enough to stick around instead of jumping ship to another party (like the Libertarians) or just going apathetic politically.

So if the GOP wants to hear the truth, we are still here to help them learn and understand.

But the GOP/RNC should start by THANKING DR. PAUL!!!

Then they should thank us.

OTHERWISE they are going to LOSE - LOSE - LOSE in November.



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Do you not know how much money the neocons would lose?

Having a person of integrity in the White House would screw up SOOOO many pork deals for existing neocon politicians and the companies/lobbyists that work through them.

The entire neocon propaganda industry would suffer massive loses. Either they'd stick to their neocon ways or try to switch to real conservatism. Either way would likely result to big losses. Heck, since most radio stations now evolve around neocon talk shows, a Ron Paul Presidency could bankrupt many radio stations. [The easy fix for radio stations is having a set of good real conservative talk show hosts replace the neocons...I'm sure we have quite a few already.]

Worst of all, young politicians would have a role model. They would believe that they don't have to compromise...that they don't have to sell out...that they don't have to be selfish...etc. Thus, the political community of neocons would grow weaker.

So they stand to lose a lot.

They really painted themselves in a corner...and are fighting like it. They know that we will never trust them, thus, to win, we must terminate their positions, their industries, their wealth and power.

We are fighting for many things: some specific, some lofty. They are fighting for something very specific: money, power, and reputation. For not only will they lose wealth, they will lose all that star treatment, the adoration of so many. They are fighting going down in disgrace...and possible imprisonment!

Frankly, these should be part of our Revolution goals...because they are necessary to our success.

Lose Lose

lose lose lose lose lose lose lose lose. No presidency for you RNC. HEE HAWW. No contracts for your buddies. Nope nope nope.

Yes - We need to pound this message to the GOP and RNC...

YOU WILL NOT WIN UNLESS RON PAUL IS NOMINATED.

Can you understand that???

Do you hear this message.

It seems they don't so far.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Thank us?? Right....

First you need to truly understand the GOP. They don't want us in their party. They don't want us because we are true conservatives. They don't want us because we are a threat to them and the democrats (their partners). They don't want us because we are the ones educating and fighting for Constitutional/Conservative values. They would like nothing more than for us to get the hell out of their party and to be apathetic. They want us to be like the rest of the sheeple out there, to just conform to their corruptness. Trust me; they don't give a flying fudge if Obama gets elected again. They just don't want anything to do with Ron Paul or anyone else who believes in The Constitution, The Bill of Rights, or The Declaration of Independence.

But what about the fact

that there is no real difference between the GOP and the Dems? I am 100% convinced that at some level these two parties are really one with identical goals.

Perhaps at the grunt level there are those who think they belong to something that upholds their ideals but in reality they are being played.

Ron Paul is the ONLY cadidate I have ever come across that, while not publically exposing the above fact, has worked tirelessly to abolish it for the sake of the American people. Actions speak louder than words. Character and integrity matter.

I believe he is one of a kind - at least in my lifetime.

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

The Tea Party and us

Are the future of the GOP. We continue to kick out the old estanilished types with actual fiscal conservatives. Even though Mitt is the "presumptive nominee", he still has 40% of republicans voting against him. Mainstream conservatives have adopted many of our platforms-such as abolishing the FED and getting out of afghanistan, among other things. We also will at the very least be able to change several tenets pf the party's policy platform. And last but not least, we will control several state parties by the end of this election..

The Neo Cons

will be thrown out and put out of business soon enough.

We are more than they can handle

Can't win without us. So they should nominate RP! We will take over GOP by exposing the fraud, Rule 11. Keep on pushing!

Ron Paul or bust!

Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country. John Adams

"Leadership" Knows it, Plans it (the loss)

Imagine their surprise in 2008 when Sarah Palin was making John McCain (also calculated to lose with certainity) The brain addled GOP Faux News sadly misguided older generation wave a flag and think they do their part by watching Bill O'Reilley and Shawn Hannity. What ever Ingram, or Limbaugh, or Beck have to say. Now it's what "The Five" says. I'm so glad the younger people now don't even own tvs! The good news is, the GOP will be thanking us on the floor of the convention in Tampa. Then they can like Ron Paul regardless of what the media expects of them. Thank you all -w/u all!

What's your beef with Ingraham?

She has RP on quite a bit and is very fair towards him and us-and actually agrees with us quite a bit.

And there are quite a few problems associated with most of today's "youth"-I know, I'm one of them. Most of them are progressive leftists, which certainly beats out even the hardest Fox News watcher (Fox would be alright if they were just fairer to Ron..)

Wake UP and Smell the Coffee!

..I don't know how long you've been following Ingraham...
But I was a huge fan..."WAS"....

Do NOT confuse her with a REAL supporter....please don't

Health Issues (Breast Cancer) almost ended her career...
Her show has lost most premium stations.(TPTB needed to rein her in).
FoxNews and O'Reilly throw her a bone once in a while.

Do the homework..you'll see.

p.s. I was a huge fan..until I knew of RON PAUL...

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

Yes - Ron Paul made a lot of us realize the truth about many...

...of the supposed "conservatives" in the media.

Ingraham is just one in a line of many rats such as:

Mark Levin
John Gibson
Michael Medved
Rush Limbaugh
Sean Hannity
Bill O'Reilly
Bill Kristol
Fred Barnes
Glenn Beck

The list goes on and on.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Laura Ingraham is a NEO-CON, Ron Paul-hater from way back.

She has dissed him for months - Especially back when he came in 2nd in New Hampshire.

Anything nice she says about Ron Paul now is just personal damage control.

I imagine she has gotten plenty of hate mail from Paul supporters in the past after dismissing Dr. Paul as a kook and nutjob.

She's as rotten an establishment republican as there are.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Ingraham strikes me as another war-mongering neocon,

but I've only caught her show a couple of times when I'm traveling.

What's your beef with Ingraham?

She has RP on quite a bit and is very fair towards him and us-and actually agrees with us quite a bit.

Again I say...

...The GOP won't win without us.

I call it the "Let it burn" strategy.

By voting in a "republican" (OTHER than Ron Paul), nothing will change.

Oh sure, Romney might be a little better on some things than Obama but the point is on the big things like abolishing the income tax, ending the wars and occupations and auditing the Federal Reserve NOTHING WILL CHANGE.

So let Obama continue to screw it up so bad that the country wakes up - Maybe.

LET IT BURN!

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Start Over. In Tampa. Let the establishment burn and

Time for the GOP to Rise Like the Phoenix from the ashes..
We have to remember to forgive, we have to love, to reach out in the right spirit. Too many older Americans among us are well intentioned, just misguided, but things can change. Stay in the present moment. The past is resentment the future is fear. The present is, that's where God is.
To the GOP. They should change the name to the Grand New Party
"My right hand holds matches,
My left holds my past,
I hope the wind catches,
And burns it down fast,
I’m gonna step into the fire,
With my failures and my shame,
And wave good-bye to yesterday,
As I danced among the flames,
So don’t try to save me now,
Let the walls of my world all burn down,
Just stand back and wait till the smoke finally passes,
And I WILL RISE,
From the ashes!

For all that I’m losing, much more will I gain,
The hard part is choosing,
To CHANGE WHAT NEEDS CHANGE-
And my stance will be much lighter,
With these demonds off my chest,
I’m born with better spirit,
To lay the old to rest
So don’t try to save me now,
Let the walls of my world all burn down,
Just stand back and wait till the smoke finally passes,
And I will rise
From the ashes,
And I’ll walk away stonger,
I will be flyin,
Higher and truer
Then I’ve flown before,
My right hand holds matches,
My left holds my past,
I hope the catches,
And burns it down
Fast.
Martina McBride's From the Ashes

I hear your resolve but I'm happy to exit this party rather than

...spend any more of my life energy trying to reform it.

This IS my final effort.

Either they nominate Ron Paul, or I'm done screwing around with these mis-guided idiots.

The establishment GOP is a combination of sheeples who are too blind to see the truth and downright traitors who know damned well the truth, but want to hide it to further their agendas (like big-government, wars, occupations, over-taxation, crony capitalism etc).

Either way, this election season will indicate the desires and direction of the party.

There are onl 2 possible outcomes:

1. Ron Paul wins and it means we're been successful in turning things around.

2. Ron Paul loses and it means the GOP has dismissed its best chance in its history.

After all, Ron Paul makes Ronald Reagan look like a novice by comparison.

For all his good points, Reagan had only a fraction of the understanding of economics as Dr. Paul.

And a small fraction at that.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

I agree, the leadership are criminals at many levels.

Regan would not be fit to shine Ron Paul's shoes. Ron Paul is the greatest American patriot since Thomas Jefferson! Too bad.. all the bs about Reagan. I was in ecomomics when he passed the Tax Act of 1986 - the biggest tax increase in history. So now you pay taxes on your own money, savings- what's left of the social security that wasn't stolen. He wanted what's left after your taxed, death tax, tips for the first time ever, corporate. Don't forget! amnesty for millions of illegal a-lein s with all the fringe benefits for their families and instant social security. Dont' forget Iran Contra drug running, weapons running. Still I'm projecting ahead, to the point where Ron Paul accepts the nomination and it feels so good! For every American! I predict 76% will fall in line for Ron Paul! Just like Dr. Paul's age, and just like 1776! What a blessing for the world! Our Revenge will be victory. Let Karma sort out the rest!

That would never happen!

They don't want Ron Paul in and they will do anything to stop it...He doesn't fit their agenda and They are puppets of the elites.. It's sad but this is what we are up against.

"Observe the masses,and do the opposite."

In "normal" circumstances,

any political party would be ecstatic about having a candidate who is so popular that he spear-heads a whole movement.

Instead, the GOP fights against this as hard as they can.
It simply shows that they have totally different goals, and winning isn't necessarily one of them.
The GOP's main goal is to be sure that ONLY corrupt criminals can get into the final race for President. They aren't here to present a candidate. They are here to present a puppet.

Yeah, but they won't

The GOP is rotten to the core. They go on and on about limited government and go the other way when push comes to shove. Their time is over. And I say this as someone who voted for Bush both times and McCain in 2008.

The GOP is NOT rotten!

They are TOTALLY CORRUPT!
We are fighting a war on all sides!
We will be victorious!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

That's the spirit!

:-)

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That is so obvious to even the dullest. That they

are not welcoming RP shows they want to continue the status quo above all. Obama is ok with them until they hope to get a strong, charismatic (contradiction in terms) NeoCon in the next election.

A great way to thank Dr. Paul...

would be nominating him. Hint, hint, GOP.

I don't play, I commission the league.

You bet - Nominate Dr. Paul but...

...he needs some help from establishment republicans to do that.

Our movement (although passionate), can't do it by itself.

And right now all the GOP/RNC is doing is fighting him - and us.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul