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Am i the only one who is put off by all the conspiracy crap posted here?

There is only one conspiracy that is factual and thats the news purposely ignoring ron paul.

But im seeing some shady sources of information pop up , things like stuff from alex jones who is largely the rush limbaugh of science fiction radio (dont believe any of it , the man makes too much money for lying outright to millions)

And some even more insane things like fema wanting to put people in deathcamps.

This kind of stuff is hurting the movement and we are being labled all the time as nutjobs for these reasons , i have had multiple people talk to me and say "ron paul supporters? you mean those guys who think bush blew up the trade towers?"

we need to end this.




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There was a time when...

There was a time when...

"There is only one conspiracy that is factual and thats the news purposely ignoring ron paul. "

was considered a conspiracy to hundreds of thousands (millions) of people who now know otherwise.. For millions of others it's still a conspiracy theory. so.. like.. whatever..bruhhh...

Poetry...

Pure poetry.

Finally this election thing is over and we can get on with the collapse of our currency forthwith!

did you like the "bruhhh"

did you like the "bruhhh" part? ;-)

Took me back to my days in Cali...

...in the 80's...loved it.

Finally this election thing is over and we can get on with the collapse of our currency forthwith!

LOL....

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What do you believe makes you qualified to determine such

things?

Have you ever read "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" for instance?

Are you a world renowned expert on conspiracies?

Countless conspiracies have been documented beyond all doubt to have occurred/are true.

Do you know before anyone else which theories about possible conspiracies are true and which are not?

"You are a den of vipers and thieves."

I mean to rout you out!

-Just because you are among us, does not make you with us

-The door is wide open, anything can slither in

As a skeptic

I do find certain things out right ludicrous. However I find our Governments Thirst for more power and wealth, while Thousands of citizens are completely brainwashed into a lifestyle of tyranny to be much more insane.

It is best to ignore such topics and continue to establish Liberty within The Whitehouse

Ron Paul IS The Golden Standard

What is Capitalism?
http://youtu.be/yNF09pUPypw

Alex Jones helped drive this movement

... only like 1,000,000 times more than you ever will.

You sound like you've had way too much fluoride. I recommend the iodine detox to clear-out your brain-fog:

https://www.drbrownstein.com/homePage.php
http://www.iodine-resource.com/
http://theiodineproject.webs.com/

You're welcome.

Republic Broadcasting best talk radio in the truthosphere

Yes

Though Jones is not the most reliable source, most of his info is correct, and his general thesis is correct, and he has done a great deal for the movement. I don't listen to him anymore, but he was probably the single most important factor in my own awakening.

I'd put him just below Dr. Paul in the list of people most important in advancing the cause. And I'd put Alan Watt next to Jones: for those of you who don't know Watt, you do, because his material is copied by just about every patriot/liberty voice out there, including Jones - with and without credit.

www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com

...he runs on a shoestring, no ads, no sponsors, all donations and book (his own) sales. Give it a listen, he's a decent man.

Alan Watt

Yes Alan Watt is pretty good. Although he can be hard to find info because there's another guy named Alan Watts and most of the time Alan Watts shows up instead of Alan Watt. I wish he had a better website though. I find it a litte chuffy.

Alex Jones can be a little repetitive sometimes. But because he will interview new people or cover new topics he is still worth coming back to and listening.

Two shorten the road.

No, you're not the only one

No, you're not the only one who is tired of all the Con theory. But don't expect it to stop. After all, in THEIR mind, you're probably part of the conspiracy and you're just here trying to silence/discredit them.

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"Ehhh, What's ups Doc?" B.Bunny "Scwewy Wabbit!"E. Fudd
People's Awareness Coalition: Deprogramming Sequence

No that's not true.

If you disagree I think very few people will think you're part of 'The Conspiracy'. If someone disagrees with me, they just have a different viewpoint that's all. Or maybe they believe some of the things not to be true that's all.

Two shorten the road.

I've been coming here since 2007

And the same topic such as yours always seems to come up. Traffic to this site, and support for ron paul has been on the increase big time since then. So I don't think its bad to talk about conspiracy topics. You also must remember that Alex Jones played a big role in the initial push for ron paul back in 2007 so you have alot of alex jones people here, even though I really don't listen to him these days.

Remember todays conspiracy theory can be tomorrows truth.

33 conspiracy theories that turned out to be true.

http://newworldorderreport.com/News/tabid/266/ID/980/33-Cons...

only -27? Should be -100 by

only -27? Should be -100 by now.

Not alone

Some will not like this similar observation that i have made. I find the Bible quotes and religious debates tend to take the focus away from the intended topic as well. So when i start seeing too much conspiracy or religious talks in the posts I fell that the main point is no longer being discussed so it's time to find something else to read.
Stay on topic, stick to the facts, keep it civil, and Go Ron Paul.

paceme's picture

Conspiracy just means people hiding things

I'm sure anyone that's received a security clearance could tell you that the government is hiding things. I'm not saying I believe everything that's said, I just know that if the government lied about Gulf of Tonkin, lied about Iran Contra, lied about Fast & Furious and lied about a dozen other scandals, then there's bound to be at least a dozen more things that are just as bad or worse, and hundreds of things that aren't so bad, but still very bad. Would Ron Paul force the revelation of everything... maybe. Would people be held accountable... probably not.

Whether calculated sadistic megalomania, or just "business as usual", some of said "conspiracy theories" are just things like influence peddling, like companies that totally own our revolving-door Congress and Executive agencies, insider trading or Federal Reserve loans. Are these things just as bad as FEMA camps and chemtrails? Yes, corruption is corruption and needs to stop.

What hasn't been revealed in the media or official statements is probably a distraction to talk about, and probably turns people off. I say, then let's just make a BIG FUSS about what's already been said. Demand that people be impeached and resign for the terrible actions of government that we can ALL agree on, and it's fair game to forcibly ask government the question "What else aren't you telling us?" No leading questions, no planted theories... just that simple question "What are other reasons should we have for revolution"

Truth is, there is a NWO movement, there is sadistic exploitation and experimentation of the masses by the powers that be, but there's nothing crazy about it. It's called pride, It's called human nature, it's called business as usual.

I don't need to speculate whether something is true. Time will tell. But by saying that it's all insane, you are writing off the prophets and geniuses that in the end will save us. All I want is truth, and as long as we know for a fact that we're not getting it (and we do know for a fact that we're not getting it), then we should fight more and stronger for it. Now is the time. A united revolution brings together everyone because we all respect our freedom of thought and freedom of speech. My suggestion to people that complain about 9/11 truthers would be to ask them about the false flags that have already been proven far and wide. They remember them! All it takes is a reminder.

In every soul there's a spark of revolution. We just have to fuel the flame.

paceme's picture

Proof

"History is a pack of lies we play on the dead" - Voltaire
"History is a set of lies agreed upon" - Napoleon
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies" - The Good Doctor

ergo...

Engaging in conspiracy theories is the exercise of liberty.

After we route the forces of old and evil...

...history will say rightly that Dr. Ronald Earnest Paul was more important in world historical terms than either Voltaire or, yes, even old Nappy.

One last thing... We all came

One last thing... We all came to this site because we are tired of the same old $hit. I would rather wade through ideas of conspiracy of small groups of men and women than be forced to listen to agendas of corporate media BS all day.

And you should deal with both the same way...

...namely, by judging them on their merits.

I read MSN news daily...

I read MSN news daily... Merits? Before the crash of 2008 were there merits? No there was pure propaganda to keep the suckers in long enough so the "click" could get out. Was there merits about all our wars of "freedom" for "Iraqi's" and the "Afgani's". NOPE and so on and so on... We are there for corporate profits and BIG EGO'S. Why are our brothers who left this war killing themselves every 80 minutes? They saw it. They had to do what we ALL supported whether not we like it.

The corporate media hedges for a select few. Just like the Federal Reserve System.

Hmmm...

...I think we're talking past each other. I agree with all you just said. I'm simply saying to those who reject "conspiracy theories" out of hand, that they should judge a "conspiracy theory" on its merit: i.e. does it make sense, is the evidence convincing? As opposed to dismissing it out of hand because the TV told them it was "kooky."

I never dismiss a little

I never dismiss a little conspiracy... Usually there is some level of truth. As the saying goes the TRUTH IS ALWAYS BETWEEN THE LINES.

We have more than our share for a reason...

If someone really, really, really doesn't trust the government, who are they going to vote for but Ron Paul?

You are not alone...and worst

You are not alone...and worst of all...

For the people who come here who are undecided, you would be in the MAJORITY. All that talks costs Ron Paul thousands of votes per state. (well..maybe hundreds in some of the smaller states.)

What is most frustrating it everyone who claims they have PROOF of something and then they give some ridiculously flawed analysis that would get a high school freshman a failing grade in statistics class.

My favorite is the moron over at RPF. I think his name is ronrules. HE keeps going on and on about his PROOF of vote flipping based on nothing but him noticing that Romney seems to pick up toward the end of nights. When it was accurately pointed out hat Romney does better in the larger counties (and everyone acknowledges that that is true) and that those counties are usually last to report, he simply ignores the logic. Even when someone else furthered his "analysis" by showing that county by county, Romney was NOT improving as the night went on. Romney's improvement state-wide comes SOLELY from counties that had 0% reporting in the early going.

He also has never answered the simple question of WHY they would do this. Why..if they had this cheating device to flip votes, why they would WAIT until 20-30% had reported before turning it on (as he called it) There would be NO reason to wait other than to challenge armchair analysts to try to catch them. Which is silly. But when confronted with that logic, he runs away and leaves the thread for awhile.

Thankfully, most of the people at RPF are tired of his shit and have stuck him in the crazy corner and basically don't let him talk about it on the main page. Though he still tries.

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Umm..he's a troll.

Do you need an explanation of what that word is? But maybe you're not fully familiar with that word means, so you'll need an explanation.

Move along! Statistics and

Move along!

Statistics and logic have no place within the walls of this thread.

Clearly, Howard Reece killed JFK and then abducted his corpse pre-autopsy in an alien craft that crashed into... wait for it... Building 7. Of course, that was after Doug Wead told them to "pull it".

egapele's picture

Wow, I'm so glad I came to the Daily Paul

to hear what you have to say. I knew I'd never get the truth from watching TV. Thank you so much, Dave! I knew I'd find out the truth from you.

The pessimist had arrived

I have to say that gave me a laugh...

Mmmm...

Person A (you) sees Person B (vote flipping moron) making ridiculous unsubstantiated claims, and rightly judges Person B a moron. But for no good reason, Person A then lumps Person C (someone talking about a totally unrelated "conspiracy theory") in with Person B, and wrongly judges Person C a moron on that basis. Speaking of logic, can you name this logical fallacy, Person A?