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Am i the only one who is put off by all the conspiracy crap posted here?

There is only one conspiracy that is factual and thats the news purposely ignoring ron paul.

But im seeing some shady sources of information pop up , things like stuff from alex jones who is largely the rush limbaugh of science fiction radio (dont believe any of it , the man makes too much money for lying outright to millions)

And some even more insane things like fema wanting to put people in deathcamps.

This kind of stuff is hurting the movement and we are being labled all the time as nutjobs for these reasons , i have had multiple people talk to me and say "ron paul supporters? you mean those guys who think bush blew up the trade towers?"

we need to end this.




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Conspiracy just means collusion

And given that all of our Country's Institutions are visibly corrupt, and we operate under a political system designed around legalized bribery......just how do we got that way?

Collusion.
Conspiracy.


Yes Collusion....Corruption....

Enumerated Consensual Taxation Changed to Unenumerated Unconsensual Flat percentage Taxation;

States Allow bribery of federal mandates to get money back that should have never left the state or citizens, only to have the money absorbed by government Unions and expanded dependent bureaucracies.

Organized crime never left, it is rooted in government and local unions and corporate exclusive privileges and contracts.

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Fact is Stranger than Conspiracy

Before people scream and complain about "conspiracy" they should spend the time presenting the facts of corruption already occurring and educating people to the corruption that is already clearly present.

Ok, lets take 4 Founders documents: http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/American_Patriot_Party.pdf

In the Virginia Ratifying Convention of 6-16-1788 http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/americanpatriotpartynewsl..., virtually every warning by Patrick Henry and George Mason have already come true, such as: 1.) the federal government using "departments" to expand their power outside the delegated powers i.e. outside the limited "10 miles square" of Washington, DC 2.) the granting of "exclusive privileges" outside the 10 miles square of Washington DC; 3.) governing police outside Washington, DC - a power not delegated 4.) Expanding the Welfare Clause outside the limited delegated powers of collecting taxes for National defense and National Debt ONLY; 5.) Dissolution of civilian Militias and the failure of the federal government and states to arm them (the CITIZENS) to the required 25 to 1 superiority over the standing army (SEE 25 to 1 RATIO given by JAMES MADISON in FEDERALIST #46 http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa46.htm or see it on the front page of http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc)

Patrick Henry warned us 200 years ago in The Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788:

"...WHO has enslaved France, Spain, Germany, Turkey, and other countries which groan under tyranny?

They have been "ENSLAVED" by the hands of their "OWN PEOPLE".

If it will be so in America, it will be only as it has been every where else."

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Their confiscation is most often hatched in secret, behind closed doors, in the dark of night under the cover of distraction.

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Agendas are well planned, choregraphed and implemented.

For probably the duration of humankind.

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OK, I fell for it (see my comment just below) -- old thread

I just noticed this is an old thread. Why bump it?

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"Why bump it?" Because it's even more timely than it was before.

The government lies are ever bigger, and anyone who attempts to fight those lies with the truth is met with the brute force of government. Such people are labelled radicals, troublemakers, crazy uncles, conspiracy theorists, Christians, libertarians, or gun-totting freaks.

Never what it seems

http://polisat.com/Images/Obama-Sends-Gimme-Space-Message-to-Putin-via-Medvedev-0001aAa-600x699.jpg

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I agree with the body of your post

But I disagree with your subject headline. I don't see how bumping this worthless thread adds anything. Most of these people are gone.

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Worthless thread.

If there's an opinion in a thread you don't agree with, why don't you point out IN THAT THREAD how it's wrong?

God, we're being overrun by lazy whiners today.

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no you are not the only one

no you are not the only one annoyed at all the tin foil hat junk.

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And how do you feel about

Mr. Snowden?
Is he a whistle blower or a leaker?

NOSHEEPLE

Maybe if there wasn't so much truth to the inevitability?

Listen Closely at 10 minutes into this video:

Then lets take a look at things such as the federal government and state governments ignoring and refusing to investigate things such as building #7 housing records of the world trade center falling like a stack of cards...

So, before you scream and complain about "conspiracy" why not spend the time presenting the facts of corruption already occurring and educating people to the corruption that is already clearly present.

Ok, lets take 4 Founders documents: http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/American_Patriot_Party.pdf

In the Virginia Ratifying Convention of 6-16-1788 http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc/americanpatriotpartynewsl..., virtually every warning by Patrick Henry and George Mason have already come true, such as: 1.) the federal government using "departments" to expand their power outside the delegated powers 2.) the granting of "exclusive privileges" outside the 10 miles square of Washington DC; 3.) governing police outside Washington, DC - a power not delegated 4.) Expanding the Welfare Clause outside the limited delegated powers of collecting taxes for National defense and National Debt ONLY; 5.) Dissolution of civilian Militias and the failure of the federal government and states to arm them (the CITIZENS) to the required 25 to 1 superiority over the standing army (SEE 25 to 1 RATIO given by JAMES MADISON in FEDERALIST #46 http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa46.htm or see it on the front page of http://www.americanpatriotparty.cc)

Patrick Henry warned us 200 years ago in The Virginia Ratifying Convention 6-16-1788:

"...WHO has enslaved France, Spain, Germany, Turkey, and other countries which groan under tyranny?

They have been "ENSLAVED" by the hands of their "OWN PEOPLE".

If it will be so in America, it will be only as it has been every where else."

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Concern Troll

...part of the graduating class of 2010... Looks like he got fired long ago since he hasn't posted in ages...

Wha? .....hey....who stole my country?

oops--

ha, ha,--

old OP

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

the word "crap" in a subject heading . . .

puts me off.

Yes, there are some people who love sensation and will believe almost anything--

and sometimes that can get annoying.

But how can anyone who values liberty not want to know what goes on 'behind the scenes'--

those who have tried to help save America sometimes have to dig in dirt--

I know there is a limit to that. I'm a gardener, and I only have to dig so deep; if I spend all my time shoveling, I'm not planting--

but getting one's hands dirty is part of the job--

Trying to understand the workings of human plots and plans is another thing, and anyone who is wise will at least make the attempt--

and sometimes get it wrong. But at least they aren't ignoring reality.

There are conspiracies. Even Dr. Paul said that people whisper in rooms all the time, and sometimes it's good whispering--

so--

take it from there--

and you won't impress people using "crap" (from someone who has watched Dr. Paul since 1988)

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

And they aren't even good...

And they aren't even good conspiracy theories. 95% are sourced by conspiracy theory books or parrot well known misinformation.

Literally every event that happens is blamed on a complex conspiracy. The real world doesn't work like this. Someone doesn't engineer a plane crash with an assassin in the ocean to give a 65 yr old woman a fake heart attack but is foiled by your screenshot of a video.

There's real conspiracies out there. Mainly promotion of a lack of critical thinking and confusion by disinformation.

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Could you list

the real conspiracies for us. That would save lots of time.

Dogmatic thinking...

It's funny that so many here can't even criticize their own thoughts. It's like a religion.

You can't even pretend to begin to think you are wrong or mistaken, or that not everything is perfectly controlled by whoever you demonize. Everything on TV is false, everything in the media is fake, until you want to use it to support your theories.

And I don't disagree with some of theories, only the faulty way people arrive at them. With an infinite refusal to believe they may be wrong.

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Are you staring

into a mirror while you're thinking these thoughts?

NOSHEEPLE

"You can't even pretend to begin to think

you are wrong or mistaken ..."

Projection?

I concede I may be wrong, have you ever?

Actually, as I said, I agree with many of the theories and even the ones I don't, I realize that certain issues are strange.

But whenever I challenge someone on a source, I get slammed and told to "read these books, watch these documentaries" which I've already done. And it always goes back to the Jews and the Jesuits, and all this improbable degree of complex control.

Everyone is in on it! Anderson Cooper is actively working for the CIA!

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What if

only half are true?

People Love it!

Look, "conspiracies" are the basis of all news. The low class magazines like National Enquirer, Star are all based upon conspiracies.

It's the nature of all news and isn't specific to only "secret Fema deathcamps" and the Mr. Big Mouth Alex Jones.

All House and Senate inquiries and investigations are based on conspiracies.

ignoring ron paul news

Well when Ron makes some new news someone will post it, until then contribute something of substance or put a sock in it.

I have never logged in so quick to downvote something so quick.

Remember Bush didn't have his hands on the plunger like wiley coyote. He was put into his presidency by daddy so others around him could plan and execute the orders necessary to take all or most of our freedoms, that we are now seeing from the snowden docs we see on the crytpome website.

i assume you have never bothered to look at http://cryptome.org/

go figure huh, conspiracy nuts we all are huh ?

Bush was whispered into ear and just sat there, ha ha !
standard protocol people----- standard protocol !

As for bashing jones , he does alot of good while ignoring the real problem, GLOBALISTS = ZIONIST , more often than not , that's why i label him up there with the other christian zionists like joseph farah of wnd.com , who's writers include people like ted nugent and chuck norris who themselves are christian zionist even if they don't realize it. I love the land of israel(chuckle)

Joel Skousen also only says globalist, meaning he his controlled up to a point as well, but I like how he blew the myth of iranian emps over America out of the water on Jones's show and Jones wasnt expecting him to do that considering he had Michael Maloof of wnd.com on weeks prior hyping up the NON-EXISTANT THREAT of EMP strikes on america. haha

now go back to school son and do some homework!

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If you feel that all "theories" are crap, then please, do enlighten all of us with what really happened and who was involved with respect to all of history's events that fall under your CS category.

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I don't consider it a conspiracy theory

when all the evidence points in that direction.

call me crazy.

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