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I'm at the Point of Not Believing Virtually Anything the MSM Media Says

I don't know about anyone else, but after learning about how the media terribly distorts reality (ie Ron Paul) I can no longer trust virtually anything they say or have drilled into our heads. An establishment media that twists reality enough to brainwash us into bombing countries like Iraq and Iran for no good reason really puts things into perspective.

If someone asks me what I think of ______ country my default question will be I don't know unless I have heard opinions from reputable people and sources from that country.

For example, I remember being taught how terrible Singapore was because of their caning, but after some education it's really not a bad place (probably better than the US) as long as you don't do certain things that are common sense no-nos. Venezuela: Is it really a bad place or are we being brainwashed into believing it is because of strategic reasons via drugs and oil?

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If only we could subscribe to channels we wanted

I have cable still. I only watch sports anymore. The kids like the cartoon channels. The wife likes the home remodeling and gardening shows. But that is about it.

If I could I would dump all the stupid channels I never watch, which is most. Particularly ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, CNBC,... and most of their sister channels.

I'm hoping someday we can get alacarte programming.

I woke up about a year ago.

I didn't want to believe that there were people in our gov't and media that are that evil. For a while I was angry about it. Now I always ask myself, why are they telling me what they are?

Hey now, they usually get the date and time right.

But so does my wrist watch.

Free includes debt-free!

Accidentally had ABC News

Accidentally had ABC News with Diane Sawyer on last night while eating dinner. Their lead story was how Romney "severely bullied" some kid in high school who was suspected of being gay. Their next story was how Barack Obama sides with the right to gay marriage, which Biden "let out of the bag". Whatever. Just one more way the powers that be herd the sheep. I do not watch any of the msm anymore if I can help it.

oh man lol

ABC is as liberal as they come...

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I officially cancelled my cable last night.

When they asked my reason:

FOX, MSNBC, and CNN. I refuse to pay one cent of my money to any of those networks. They lie, omit, manipulate the truth, and do nothing other than spew political party propaganda. As long as I pay my money to you, they are paid. When the cable companies stop carrying FOX, MSNBC, and CNN, I'll reconsider cable.

She tried to tell me she could "block" those channels - Lol. I nailed her with "So then, does that make the cost of them come off the bill?"

...*stutter, err,...*

I said No Thanks, it defeats my purpose here. As long as I pay you, my money somewhere along the line, goes to them whether I view them or not because you carry them, so cancelling cable is the only thing that assures me I am not supporting those networks. That's what you call the "free market" in action. So when cable drops them from the line up, feel free to give me a call back.

I plan the same thing

I plan to have the exact same conversation. I am dropping cable because of crappy news channel and will only come back if those networks are dropped!

Just built a windows media center based HTPC - this thing is awesome and ten times better than cable anyways :)


Yes, and trying to have any discussions with the sheeple, especially family members, will make your life very difficult. But, we must plow on. I'm not a wikipedia fan necessarily, but the have a pretty good summary of propaganda techniques. Once you learn them you will be able to point out the techniques on any of the MSM stations in about 2 minutes.


"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

Thanks for the link....

interesting and helpfull.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

The only things I watch

are Seinfeld, MASH, and occasionally the last few laps of a Nascar race. However, the way I watch those shows has changed a lot. Since I've woken up, I'm more conscience of product placements in shows, the consumerism narratives, and in Nascar even though they have always been corporate whores...it's even more in my face now. Nascar intentionally does things that manipulate the outcome of the race so the eventual winner not only has to have a good car, he has to plan on unexplained "debris" cautions and vague interpretations of "rules". This year the whole "Danica Patrick" sexual promotion is just SO obvious. That hoe can't drive but they treat her like she is gold...and from a marketers standpoint...she is...but it's a scam for do one purpose...increase viewers. I keep the volume down.

The commercials for all the shows are just IMPOSSIBLE to sit through. The place where I live cable and internet are provided as part of my rent...so I can't cancel it and I can't dvr things to ff thru the commercials so when they come on, my wife normally drops an F bomb, laughs and hit's mute. I suspect it won't be too many years before a TV station like DP will come around. Real news and lots of TRUE historical documentaries. Once the FCC gets abolished (or at least the rules that prohibit the truth from being aired), we might one day see a revolution of TV options.

I threw my TV in the trash in 1996.

I kept a small DC-powered TV for emergencies. I threw that out in 2001.
Haven't had a TV since.
I don't miss it a bit.

I don't get any newspapers or news magazines.
I confess that occasionally I turn on the radio when I'm driving in my truck, and hear some talk show hosts blathering. I usually regret doing that.

You really don't need to hear anything that the media says.


As a graphic designer I always knew Media = Money! However I am very surprised that they are reporting negative information (if any at all at this point) in regards to a presidential candidate during a very important primary. If that doesn't make you question somethings about the $1,000,000,000,000 income minority and their use of wealth, then I dont know what will!

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?

Every now and then I check the MSM

To see what I'm supposed to think.

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And on occasion, I look through the Comments on Fox

And often wonder if someone will mention the serious situation with the Used Car Salesman from Texas... (That malarkey - which stood out like a sore thumb to me - got more 'turn the Middle East into sand' comments than I would EVER have believed.) But there are many folks who still watch FOX and only FOX - and acess NO alternative media source.

Susie 4 Liberty

Better Late than Never :)

You'll feel much better as time goes on I promise..I stopped believing a word they say since the first gulf war. Cheers to your freedom!!

"I have found that being rich is not about having the most but about needing the least"

Journalists are humans

And not the sharpest humans, either.

As a youngster, I wanted to be a journalist. I attended the University of Michigan for a couple of years and took some journalism courses. One, in particular, was taught by a grizzled old journalist who spent much of his time rambling about his experiences...very interesting. One of the things he taught me is that journalists come from that segment of the population that wants to make a difference. That's the same place law students come from...and often journalists become law students and vice versa.

Anyway, journalists by their nature gravitate to crusades for world improvement. The problem is their world view is pretty authoritarian. They're poorly versed in philosophy or economics. Instead, they see starving children, or homeless people, or tyrants, or cruelty, and they write passionately that we should 'do something.' Naturally, in their minds, government has the resources to 'do something' so that is how they slant their stories, only they don't think it's a slant, they think it's the truth. Anything that doesn't fit that world view is unfathomable.

That old journalist also said that the idea of 'censorship' in the old USSR was a misnomer. He said he once spoke to a Russian journalist about censorship in their country, and the Russian said they didn't have any. "But, but, but...you didn't write about this or that subject in your newspapers", said my prof. The Russian replied, "I didn't want to."

We need to win over journalists, not antagonize them. They do not share our world view, but they need to.

welcome to reality

enjoy your stay

It's Worse than Pravda

because at least most Russian people knew that was state-controlled media. Here in America, most people think the news is accurate. It isn't always what they say and don't say that makes the news so bad/inaccurate. What's worse is when they report on things that should absolutely outrage you, but they do it in such a mild way that you're led to believe it's okay. For example, we should have been furious over the bailouts, bombing Libya, NDAA, renewal of the Patriot Act, the decision to send the troop surge into Afghanistan, and on and on. When the news reports it though, they report these things like they're no big deal. The only questions they ask are, "should we send 40,0000 or 60,000 more troops to Afghanistan?" They never ask the real question, "why are we still there?" and "how soon can we get all the troops home?".

I've heard that said many times

and given the comments sections on Fox or about any other mainstream news source, I absolutely believe it.
There will always be state propaganda in the media. The trouble in this country is so many don't know it when they see it.

Now you know they lie,

Fox news is funnier than Comedy Central! Bill-lady-hands-O'Reily is hilarious, as he pretends to be a patriot, but comes across as a pin-head, pretends to be a Christian, then tries to drum up race wars with Muslims and Afro Americans...and all with a straight face.

I posted this same story in

I posted this same story in another thread, but this is the prefect place for it.

I attended the St. Charles County Caucus that went haywire as a result of the county establishments meddling with the rules and attempting to fully control the outcome. I personally witnessed the whole thing, from pre-news worthy, to post news event.

Out of curiosity, my wife recorded all 4 local news broadcasts (FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC affiliates) that evening, just to watch the coverage on each. None of them got the story right... not a single one.

But there is also the fact that "News" can be communicated in such a way that no single lie or falsehood is told, yet the implied meaning amounts to little more than a lie. For example, one local radio station had nothing more than a snippet on the event (not verbatim):

"The trouble began when supporters of Ron Paul objected to the rule barring cameras or recording devices at the caucus. Police were called and two Ron Paul supporters were arrested and the event was shut down by the organizers."

Now there is nothing completely false or untrue in this snippet... but it is not the whole truth and communicates in a way that leads people to false conclusions. Those unfamiliar with events would assume that RP supporters were completely to blame and the organizers were doing their civic duty.

When Reagan went to the Berlin Wall,

my spouse, who is fluent in German, was in Germany, in an American military command and control bunker, watching the news on the several tv's they had down there. The German news showed the huge crowd cheering Reagan, but the American news focused on a tiny anti-West/Reagan demonstration 1/4 mile away from the action. Sure, the demonstration happened, but the American news made it seem like that was the totality of the story, which, of course, was a lie.

Better late than never. Good

Better late than never. Good job seeing through the brainwashing.

Welcome to your new reality.........


~Your perception becomes your reality~

In All Seriousness To Anyone "New":

Hello, everyone.

I say this in ALL SERIOUSNESS for anyone who is beginning to learn what is happening and what has happened in The World for a very long time.

The more you learn, the more shocking it gets.

Once it SINKS IN...That is your Spiritual Awakening.


Learn, share but DO NOT GET DEPRESSED.

We will get out of this.

Most people on this planet are very kind people.

We Are The Majority.

This Is Family.

In The United States, In Every Country Across The World:




Wisdom Strategies

You are right, it's all lies.

Even when they tell the truth they are lying. Their entire purpose is to create a world view that suits the agenda of the owners. Even the "news' is designed as entertainment. They use actors and stage events. It is Hollywood scripted soap opera.

The aim is to blur the line between life and fantasy. Even fictional historical movies are take to be real history.

It is very important to be aware of this. Then you will be able to see through the mirage and detect their aims. One very good recent example of this was the assassination of "Osama bin Laden". He actually died in December 2001 of a combination of Marfan's syndrome and kidney failure in Tora Bora. He was treated for these conditions at a hospital in Dubai in July 2001. The CIA were aware of this at the time and did nothing to detain him.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

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And Osama's demise was NOT hidden

Particularly on one of the Alternative sources I access... And so, I was shocked that ANYone still believed he was alive to 'get got'. Bottom line: Osama Dun Bin Gone - for years - and was appropriately facing Mecca.

In another story, Fast and Furious had been reported (by a few ATF Agents with consciences) more than a year before the story broke...

And if those in our Congress get their way - and control every facet of the internet? What then? Another reason I will work HARD to get TX Congressman Lamar Smith, who introduced SOPA, OUT - and now that I'm in his DISTRICT - under our weird new Boundaries, am trying my best to let people know the alternative Candidate - and the one who will get my vote... Richard Mack. (Sheriff Richard Mack, formerly of Arizona) (Too bad he and Glenn Addison (Candidate for Senate against Ted Cruz) got "uninvited" to the Tea Party Express Rally at the last minute. ? Was looking forward to hearing from each of them.)

Susie 4 Liberty

Lies, Damn Lies, and Bin Laden's demise

Bin Laden died of kidney failure in December 2001

Bin Laden died of kidney failure in December 2001.
Written by Stephen Lendman
Date: May 4, 2011.
Subject: Imperialism. Lies, Damn Lies, and Bin Laden's demise
- by Stephen Lendman


Separating Fact from Fiction

Post-9/11, bin Laden became "Enemy Number One," the nation's top "security threat." In fact, if he hadn't existed, he'd have been invented for political advantage.

In March 1985, after Ronald Reagan signed National Security Decision Directive (NSDD) 166 to arm Afghan Mujahideen fighters, Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) recruited bin Laden to fight Soviet Afghan forces as a CIA asset. He likely remained one until his death, while simultaneously called "Enemy Number One," using him advantageously both ways.

David Ray Griffin wrote seminal books on 9/11, including "The New Pearl Harbor," "The 9/11 Commission Report," "9/11 and American Empire," "9/11 Contradictions," "Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7," and "Osama Bin Laden: Dead of Alive?"

It was also the title of his October 9, 2009 Global Research article, covering two types of evidence:

(1) Objective evidence that he's dead:

After December 13, 2001, his regularly intercepted messages stopped.

On December 26, 2001, according to "a leading Pakistani newspaper" story, a prominent Taliban official said he attended his funeral.

Bin Laden, in fact, was very ill with kidney disease. In September 2001, CBS News anchor Dan Rather reported that he was admitted to a Rawalpindi, Pakistan hospital on September 10, 2001, and France's Le Figaro said:

more at link.


Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.

Venezuela is a great place for holidays.

Many Europeans go there to relax!

I have students (I live in

I have students (I live in Europe) who often visit Cuba for the same reason.