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May 10, 2012 Ben Swann Reality Check: All GOP Delegates Unbound at Tampa Convention

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I wonder

if this was the ace up the Campaigns sleeve the whole time.. They have this incredibly brilliant strategy that they have been working on for over 4 years I'm sure they must have been aware of this and thats why they focused so much and delegates. I hope everyone who lost faith in the campaign so early on feels pretty foolish about now!

Ron Paul will be dominating world headlines after Tampa....

....if this is true, there will be a lot of global attention for liberty. I wish all of you the best of luck. It are efforts like these that do not just change nations, they change worlds.

"On résiste à l'invasion des armées; on ne résiste pas à l'invasion des idées." -Victor Hugo-
"Ideas spread, you can't stop them. An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government!" -Ron Paul-

I think there is some effort already...

I see more and more international support for Dr. Paul everyday on comment boards and blogs. Austrailians and Canadians have been standing out lately, probably because we have troops in both regions of the recent.

Have you heard of Nigel Farage?

Veterans for Ron Paul

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

Sure I've heard of him, he is...

......a blessing to have on the eussr-board.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ6_Ey_MJV4 (must see if interested, latest one of Farage)
I know Ron Paul is known on online communities in Europe, but on the streets throughout the continent he will be after Tampa.

"On résiste à l'invasion des armées; on ne résiste pas à l'invasion des idées." -Victor Hugo-
"Ideas spread, you can't stop them. An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government!" -Ron Paul-

Delegate Counts For Dummies!!!

Ron Paul Rising!!!!!!

http://www.dailypaul.com/232616/new-delegate-count-paul-risi...

New updated Delegate count as of May 7 from Lemon Global, Matlarson10 mentioned them in one of his vids, I just checked and they have an update! woot!

Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country. John Adams

If Ben is right this is a

If Ben is right this is a huge game changer! Think of how many stealth Ron Paul delegates are out there! Or if this right we won Massachusetts out right! Hell YES!

Thank you Ben

You made my Friday!

I have a few questions

As you know the media are keeping their own delegates tab. Romney is at 949 here - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/repub... - which we know is not right. But let's say that when, if, Romney reaches the 1144 mark he'll be declared winner, no matter what others think, how will the vote eventually proceed at the GOP convention in Tampa?

I would guess that the RNC is keeping its own tab. If so, would they declare their numbers of bound delegates as official and then proceed with the vote of only those that are unbound? I mean, if a number of delegates are declared bound then it makes no sense to have them vote. How would they control the whole process if all delegates vote, but some are bound?

Check this out!

http://www.dailypaul.com/232616/new-delegate-count-paul-risi...

Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country. John Adams

Yes, that's great stuff...

...but it does not answer my questions. It's the 'official' count I'm worried about, and how they'll proceed with announcing Romney's 1144 and the vote in Tampa.

I was wondering the same thing...

What will the msm do when Romney reaches the 1144 mark according to THEIR delegate count???

I asked our (CD) delegation leader,

who has national convention experience. He says that no matter what the presumed count is, going in, it will have to be confirmed at the convention. Not to extend his remarks past our conversation, let me identify the rest as being my thoughts. They still take the roll call, and if we have the numbers for it, I think we should put our own person up for permanent chair. That way, when the votes for Paul start rolling in, there will be no danger of a crooked chairperson shutting everything down.

Well, if that's the case

then I can't wait for Tampa :)

Real Journalism!

God bless Ben Swann. Delegates aren't supposed to be bound "bots", it's about how you choose the delegates, not what they're forced to do at the national convention.

If you win the primaries, and can't get the delegates to support your candidate, something is VERY wrong, and the whole reason delegates aren't bound.

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432 Likes, 302 Views

You Tube must have Diebold counting the Views.

For "some" reason"

except for this particular video, every single time I've opened up a new Ron Paul video that's been posted here on the Daily Paul, I get "302" views, and then much later, it's always at the 5,000 something mark. This has been going on for months and I find it very hard to believe that whether I click on a video in the morning, evening, or even the next day, that I happen to land on that specific number of views.

There are other types of "count fraud" if you will, that have been mentioned in other youtube videos, but it's very "strange" that this happens when I watch the Ron Paul ones.

youtube policy: actual view

youtube policy: actual view counts aren't updated until the video has been up for a certain amount of time. to verify views are legit

It would be nice if YouTube

It would be nice if YouTube would place a small hourglass icon next to the view count when this happens. Seems there is always this complaint in the comments when a newly posted video becomes popular.

O my golly gosh!

Things are getting interesting.

In my humble opinion, they will not just sit there and let us

be unbound! They will think of something to stop this, so I think that the RP campaign needs to bring attention to this and iron this out BEFORE Tampa so that there won't be in any surprises.

Waiting until Tampa to iron this out will give them an undo advantage, therefore, in order for the delegates to come unbound, this has to be ironed out prior to Tampa.

betty

I understand your concern, but a more effective tactic

would be to have all our RP delegations makes sure to have folks at the meetings of the Rules Committees at the state conventions. I don't think the campaign has any power to iron things out. I think they should be ready to send in some killer legal minds, but the opportunity to block us will be at the committee meetings of the conventions. I'm with you, though, that they will do what they can to close this opening. I hope that they are really in a bad way, though, that it was their own lawyer who is responsible for this precedent, and the situation closely mirrors what we are dealing with,now.

Perhaps the state conventions would be the place to iron

this out. I certainly feel that letting this go until Tampa would be an error of immense proportion.

betty

We don't need to iron anything out in Tampa betty

that's the thing delegates never were "bound" although for decades all the partys have played this game to control people it's all a facade just like the Federal Reserve being a Govt agency.

The blinders are now off and it's our game now all we have to do is keep promoting Ron Paul and fight tooth and nail for every delegate and every delegate that we can turn to our side and we will win.

November 6th 2012 I voted for Dr.Ron Paul
"We must remember, elections are short-term efforts. Revolutions are long-term projects." ~ Ron Paul

Even better

"At the Utah State Convention party leaders asked delegates if they would like to unbind Utah’s National Delegates. The delegates said, 'No.'"

The DELEGATES said no. :)

We won't hear that too much this time around.

Something about "biding

Something about "biding delegates" just doesn't sound right.

You can't "bind" people to vote a certain way, or else technically, it's not a "vote", and by the statement from the RNC central committee, they know it.

It's important to see both sides so you can fight effectively.

The position of being a delegate is not the same as just casting a vote. A delegate is a representative that is being sent in his/her community's name. So, here's the view on binding delegates:

1. A state holds a primary election or caucus, supposedly to give their voters a say in who is elected in November.
2. Delegates are chosen to go and express that vote, much along the model of having elected representatives in government. Most state party rules include language designed to instruct their delegates accordingly.(binding their votes)
3. The contingencies to deal with subsequent ballots, etc. are in place in recognition that the delegates must have the flexibility to respond to situations where there is a lack of consensus at the convention, as to who should be the nominee. It is in those instances, that the voters are placing their trust in the delegates, to fairly represent the wishes of the voters from back home.

That is the reason some get all bothered that the state may have voted for one guy (usually Romney) and we are going in with the intention to substitute our man (Paul). However there is an equally strong tradition, that holds that the candidate with the most organized, passionate and informed supporters will win the day. Because we are informed enough to know that Romney is a weak candidate against Obama, and that his policies will not be an improvement, we ARE representing their wishes, whether they know it or not. The system was set up to provide a way to get around manipulation of the electorate by dishonest candidates, if only there are enough people who are dedicated and available enough to go in and fight for constitutionally sound representation in government. We are the voice of reason that the system is supposed to enable to protect our constitution, when democracy threatens to undermine it, due to fraudulent and crooked political machinations.

Explantion please...

...was that good or bad for RP?

GREAT for RP

If the delegates can vote as the choose on any ballot than Ron Paul is probably winning the delegate numbers! This race would be wide open!

Delegate's choice

If the delegates were previously allowed to decide whether they were bound or unbound, I would say that would be a good thing if Paul has the delegates.

The President of the United States

RON PAUL!