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New Delegate Count: Paul Rising! (5/7/2012)

On May 7th, Lemon Global released and updated projected delegate count. I have booked marked this site when Matlarson10 did a delegate video and mentioned Lemon Global. See below and check out the link below.

Delegate Count A:

This delegate count discredits Gingrich as there is no reason for him to keep his delegates, and this delegate count doesn't include Pennsylvania as their delegate process is still in session.

Romney 785
Ron Paul 440
Santorum 197

Delegate Count B:

This delegate count discredits Santorum.

Romney 846
Ron Paul 576

(this is all a projection from Lemon Global)
http://lemonglobalnews.blogspot.com/2012/05/new-delegate-cou...

Delegate Counts For Dummies!!!

We have noticed many people are confused on our delegate count.

Well our Delegate Count is actually very accurate.

But Delegate Counts is mostly guessing, the reason for this is because of the Non-Binding Caucuses.

This is of course the states, Ron Paul's Campaign even says; Ron Paul wins. Ron Paul has not won the Popular Votes; but he has been winning what actually matters, Delegates.

Lemon Global has some Grassroots we use to make a more educated guess on the true delegate count; but really many grassroots believe we are being way too conservative.

So the reasons why CNN and the AP have different delegate counts is because; half the delegates, they have to guess on. But the thing is they are hiding, that all the evidence from supporters and the delegate meetings show Ron Paul has the most delegates in these states.

http://lemonglobalnews.blogspot.com/2012/03/delegate-counts-...
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Daily Paulers- I wanted to add the following as a clarifying statement to any delegate counts we may see.

It is a fact that the delegate counts are impossible to count. However, I would be led to believe that these numbers are far more accurate than the MSM. Hard to disagree with that, I know.

This fight has just begun and please donate to keep the heat on. That being said, I feel that these numbers are far CLOSER to the actual count, as demonstrated by the REACTION of the Romney crew and MSM.

Hiring Bush's election fraud team, constant canned questions for Dr. Paul and ignoring the issue that Romney does, in FACT, have.

Keep on keepin' on for Liberty!

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How are those states

How are those states selecting delegates? Are they simply appointed? And how many states are like that?

Dont foget

to donate to the campaign!

Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country. John Adams

If this delegate count is

If this delegate count is right the establishment is in for a real surprise. Ron Paul R3VOLUTION

to your point...

The establishment is acting as such. Actions of the establishment corroborate these numbers to being closer to true than what is being ignored... I mean reported. :)

Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country. John Adams

IF YOU ASK ME

There's something very strange going on here.every time someone posts good news like this,there's always somebody right there,Johnny on the spot,to shout "wrong,wrong,wrong,".Ya know what,i think i'm just gonna believe guys like Ben Swan,and stop listening to the sourpusses.

Some see things as they are and say why,but i dream things that never were and say why not. Robert F. Kennedy

What would Paul do?

I say just do like Ron Paul and wait for all the votes to be counted. The projections have gone in our favor as the state conventions happen so just wait.

yes

That is an interesting observation... and I agree.

Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country. John Adams

These numbers are no more accurate than the MSM's

Where is the breakdown? And why do you think Newts and Ricks delegates would overwhelmingly go to RP...How many of them are establishment puppets or media drones who are going to back whoever the media tells them too? Plus Pennsylvania is settled, we got 5...The rest are establishment. Less than a handful may be swayed, but the majority are going to go with Romney.

Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.
John Adams

You said "These numbers are

You said "These numbers are no more accurate than the MSMs." ha ha... good one. But I would bet these are more accurate... funny way to spin with just 1 state and comparing MSMs pie in the sky numbers, but hey to each their own.

Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country. John Adams

hey, wait a minute...

You are saying Newt's and Rick's delegates. I get that, but who said they had them in the first place. The MSM!

So we need to realize the charade is about to blow. The FACT is, is the Romney has a delegate problem. How can we say who has what delegates. In my opinion we have the majority but are still in the trenches fighting for our life to get RP nominated.

Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country. John Adams

Wrong, PA's delegate process is 100% complete

Bad info. Unfortunately, Romney cleaned up in PA.

OK...then

What is this? http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2012/04/22/pennsylvania-delegates/

Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country. John Adams

Those were the RP names

Those were the RP names that were on the ballot in each district on election day, April 24th. The votes are in...we got 5...Plus a handful of alternates. It's easy to reason the the rest were establishment delegates ready to put party ahead of country...Our only hope at this point for PA is that a few Santorum guys either support RP (not likely) or they don't show up to Tampa and the Alternates take their place.

Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.
John Adams

it is true

that there is a delegate issue that favors RP. Keep fighting for the desolates! This thing is bout to blow!

Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country. John Adams

Bump!!

Keep getting the word out!Go get them delegates!Do not stop and donate!!!

PRESIDENT RON PAUL!!!

If you are counting ANY delegates from Iowa for Ron Paul...

Then you are whistling in the dark.

The whole delegate strategy could come crashing down like a house of cards if we don't have a money bomb for Iowa.

http://www.dailypaul.com/232614/we-could-still-lose-iowa#com...

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The Virtual Conspiracy

great point!!!!

Very good point! The fight is far from over!

Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country. John Adams

Question for Mrs. Spacehabitats

technically the at large delegate slate has to be approved at state. Any worries for this?

Pottawattamie County Iowa

"Capitalism should not be condemned, since we haven't had capitalism." -Dr. Ron Paul

nvm

i just saw your other thread

Pottawattamie County Iowa

"Capitalism should not be condemned, since we haven't had capitalism." -Dr. Ron Paul

BUT

I like positive news, but this numbers are fictive.

What in the world give all gingrich delegates to RP???
Even if, Santorum would release them, there is no explanation, why you think, that all of this individuals would vote for RP.

That numbers are just made up.

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Yes

It is a fact that the delegate counts are impossible to count. However, I would be led to believe that these numbers are far more accurate than the MSM. Hard to disagree with that, I know.

This fight has just begun and I feel that these numbers are far closer to the actual count, as demonstrated by the reaction of the Romney crew.

Hiring Bush's election fraud team, constant canned questions for Dr. Paul and ignoring the issue that Romney does, in fact, have.

Keep on keepin' on for Liberty!

ALL GREAT COMMENTS and ALL deserves an arrow up!

Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country. John Adams

the numbers are completely made up

Not even the Paul campaign believes it has close to that many delegates at this point. There is zero chance that this site would be able to provide sources for the numbers they are showing. They are most likely purely pulled out of thin air.

yea

why does anyone believe things with no sources?

Why does the majority of MSM

Why does the majority of MSM news beLIEve what they are seeing. We need to realize that these numbers may not be right, but their closer to right! :)

Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country. John Adams

yea ok fight Fiction with Fiction!

Is this just a test or are you that dense? because you did a good job of proving when people hear something they want to believe, it becomes their truth.. even on these forums.. This has to be one of the worst web sites I've ever seen. It lacks any info on how you get these numbers. The site even says in proper English "Well our Delegate Count is actually very accurate. But Delegate Counts is mostly guessing"

Stop being fooled, even from w/in people. Don't mean to be a downer but it's the truth.

at least they document their numbers

and you can look at the state by state breakdowns to see where they are incorrect. This site just pulls numbers out of thin air and throws up a total without anything close to justification for them. They really are not closer to being right.

Hope They're Correct...

...because those numbers look promising!

However, I followed their links desiring to see where they get that data, and I didn't quite understand.

Is it through word of mouth? Again, I sincerely hope that's what is happening -- AND -- this is actually what I was hoping the Paul campaign was going to announce the other night, but...

UPDATE: Ben Swann linked to this site, http://thereal2012delegatecount.com/ at one point. Delegates are only recorded AFTER the state convention is held...

Their tally is currently:
342 Romney
109 Paul
23 Gingrich
136 Santorum
750 TBD at State Conventions

that site is equally bad

They used to actually have remotely decent numbers. But there are a ton of states that they changed to be listed as "future state convention" where there is actually no convention to choose delegates, but the delegates have already been won by Romney. New York, for example, will have all Romney delegates (95). Illinois has at least 42 Romney delegates already. Pennsylvania already has 27 and will have a lot more in the end. There are plenty of others. I'm not sure why they removed a lot of these.

The biggest reason I hear about why people don't want to vote

for Paul is "he can't win".

If we had a TV COMMERCIAL saying the president is selected by the DELEGATES and Ron Paul is DOING WELL collecting delegates....then...we could get their vote.

Nobody ever listens to my emails so maybe someone else can contact the Campaign...maybe they will "hear" you as they never hear me.

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

WHOOMP!!

There it is!!!