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Ron Paul is going to WIN, do the math.

This is just my opinion and nothing more.

I think it's time to stop the BS and just start telling everyone Ron Paul is going to win. Here is why.

We have won.

States we are looking to win and doing VERY well in
South Dakota
New Mexico

Remember DELEGATES, not beauty contest.

States we are going to have some delegates in if not a good amount.
New York

Some of you are probably thinking how do you come up with this junk?

It's easy look at the track record of what is going on here. Most of us did not think we could even make it this far. This is a mass grass roots movement and people are taking the correct steps in order to put themselves in place to have their voice herd. This is what it's all about. They can say Romney delegates are BOUND all they want but truth have it, WE CAN abstain! Romney should not even be considered the favorite. Ron Paul is going to win! Spread the good news!

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Hey! Add Rhode Island to the List!

Please add Rhode Island to your list of "States we are going to have some delegates in if not a good amount".

We worked hard to get our 4 delegates and 4 alternates! ;-)


Every time someone posts a thread like this,the doubting thomas's come out of the woodwork with "you're wrong,you're wrong". i'll tell you this,i think he's gonna win,but,if he doesn't win this is the reason.divide and conquer.

Some see things as they are and say why,but i dream things that never were and say why not. Robert F. Kennedy

We can win in a landslide

We have many "sleeper" delegates among the Romney Santorum Gingrich delegates.

We can educate and convert many delegates before August.
Every converted delegate can help us convert others.

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Missouri isn't "won"...

by anyone, neither is Iowa, neither is...

It's necessary to avoid making the same mistake which Mainstream Media does in saying anyone has won Iowa and other states which have yet to determine which delegates go to Tampa and to whom those delegates are pledged (in those instances where delegates are pledged).

Before that time, there is no victor in those states.

It's inaccurate to declare victory before there can be any victor.

Let's NOT do things the way the Romney campaign and Mainstream Media do things.

If we

Still have a shot for delegates in tennessee how can I get involved as there is no state conventiom?

STOP counting chickens before eggs are hatched

This does not help.

"Know what you know, know what you don't know, and understand and appreciate the distinction."


IM not

This is all my opinion. A prediction. A guess at what's to come. I think we have a great shot. Keep pushing forward!

My numbers


We have won Minnesota & Maine.
And Maine will be challenged by the bush 2000 recount lawer.

Sure it looks good in other states, but by NOW we have only won Minnesota & Maine.

in liberty

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You are wrong right off the top.

We have not won a single national delegate from Iowa.

And we COULD end up losing them ALL.


I am from Iowa.
I know what I am talking about.

We can do something about this.
But we have to act soon.

The Virtual Conspiracy


ok chill , I said this was all my opinion.

I am from Texas. Everything is bigger here just wait and see ;0)

The key....

..to this whole thing is something Ben Swann finally said in his latest reality check. The RNC is nothing more than a private club. The federal election laws don't apply. This is why so much of our complaining about election fraud has been a waste of our time. Who cares if a private club cheated it's own members. Political parties aren't a part of the founding documents of this country so what happens withing them isn't really a legal concern. The good news about that is when we gain delegates in places like AZ, they have no legal obligation to vote how the AZ straw poll voted. If we show up with 1145 Ron Paul supporters as delegates in Tampa, then those 1145 people ARE the Republican party, and they make the rules. They don't have to wait for a second vote, or wait to change the rules. Its a private club and the majority decides the rules.

Free market capitalism isn't right for America because it works better. It's right because it's free (and it works better).

Indeed my good friend!

See you in Tampa!



It is a private club, but fraud is fraud. It DOES matter if they commit fraud, and they can get into real legal trouble if we hold them accountable. When you go and vote, who's tax money is paying for the equipment used, building, and employees maintaining that building?

a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat


Good article, but we can't take a chance of people becoming complacent. We have to continue just as hard, and as long as we are more under the radar, the easier it will be for us. We already have enough supporters, we just need to be extra cautious and extra proactive to continue, or we don't have a chance. Romney can do the same thing we are doing still at this point and make it that much more difficult to succeed, even with our strategy. The message should be one about working harder because Romney is working harder.
I did, however love the way you broke down the States. Maybe we can even do better than that!

Ron brought the Liberty movement together, Rand is expanding the crap out of it! :)


And I have been thinking that is the reason the campaign has not came out and said it. I think they know we are looking good. We just need people to keep fighting and donating.

I just want to give a boost, some faith in that we have a good shot so KEEP PUSHING hard. We can do this!


I think we can definitely be confident about most of these states. I don't know about California. I want us to do very well there, but:

"The selection of Presidential Nominating Convention Delegates to the Republican National Convention ... shall be chosen by the Presidential candidate who obtained the plurality of Republican votes within each Congressional district, and, for ... at large ... by the Presidential candidate who obtained the plurality of Republican votes statewide." http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/CA-R

In other words, if we don't have stealth delegates that are still stealth after being chosen and vetted by Romneybus, then we NEED to win the popular vote there. In other words, the California delegate process is a direct democratic process. It's not just a beauty contest. There are a handful of states like this.

We can win the college districts! We can do it!

All the states with meaningless beauty contest votes are ours to lose. That's why we'll win even without California.

Good point

About California. Im new to all this so I did not know that about Cali. Thanks

I'd love to believe that this is the case, but...

...this is extremely premature and a misleading headline with the inclusion of "do the math". I like your optimism, but there isn't any math in the post.

"Villains wear many masks, but none as dangerous as the mask of virtue." - Washington Irvin

Overly optimistic

should not really count states as wins when they haven't had their state conventions yet. (MO & MA)

Well I can b/c it's all my opinion.

I am just looking at what is going on here. A path that is following suit in states all around.

Once we do win all I can say is I told ya so and we all rejoice! ;0)

not the point

saying doing well is different than saying it is won. One is opinion and the other a lie.
Edit the post.

It doesn't do any good to set up a fall. People were not pleased with ND because they did the same thing the MSM does... "project it as won". Call MO a battle of the underdog, because that is what the numbers show. Those of us in that foxhole don't want to hear you whine about what is our 'miracle performance in the heart of fascism' if we are overwhelmed by numbers in the end.

Yeah, Missouri is far from

Yeah, Missouri is far from being won.

Now California will be tough

Now California will be tough but I think we can get at least half the delegate. Hopefully more.

I walk precinct on Sat and Sun.
Make phone calls in the evens and try to recoup volunteers.
Canvass all city and county event. Most of the time.
Post Ron Paul sign around my San Joaquin county.
And pray for Saint Paul.