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Why Voting The Lesser of Two Evils Always Fails

This is my arguement to those who like Paul but insist that he can't win and are holding their nose and voting for Romney (This is a first draft, so it's rough and needs editing...)

Why Voting Pragmatically Always Fails and Destroys a Free Country(AKA voting for the lesser of the two evils)

Many of us have heard the saying, 'when you vote for the lesser of two evils, you still get evil." And in spite of this people still feel compelled to abstain from voting for the person they would rather support and vote for the one the have come to believe (or have been told over and over again) can win and unseat the candidate they so despise. They may even despise the one for whom they vote, just not as deeply at incumbent.

And so, once they have settled, they hold on to a dreamlike hope that their chosen winner will somehow become someone else, and do 'good' to turn things around, when they get into office...that they will undo all the bad, or at the very least be not as bad, as the incumbent. These same people frequently bemoan the fact that" there is no one to vote for". And I ask, how can it be otherwise? You see the reason "we have no one to vote for" is really quite obvious when you stop to think about it.

Lets imagine that you support the platform of a good, principled candidate, Candidate A, who happens to be running for office for the first time. They typically are the underdog and underfunded and poll low when compared to other better known, but marginal candidates running for the same office including an incumbent known for corruption that you feel must be gotten out of office. Now in your fervor to oust the rascal incumbent, you review the slate and, although you support candidate A, you decide to vote for candidate B, simply because you believe he can win against the incumbent, not that you agree with or are especially enamored with many of their policies or their record. You believe you are being pragmatic, sensible and realistic, as the most important issue is to kick the rascal out, right?

WRONG! The unintended and oft times unseen consequences of this act send this message to the Candidate A, whom you actually supported. You see, candidates see the election as the ultimate poll and can only judge the support for their platform by the votes they receive. Now if they realize that even those whom they believed supported them chose NOT to vote for them, they will see this with dismay and will not RUN AGAIN. Why should they, you just told them not to!

This also sends a message to others of like mind, that there is no support for these good policies and principles that were represented by Candidate A, and they too will not choose to run. So, by choosing pragmatism over principles, for short term gain, you not only discourage Candidate A from running in the future, you discourage all other like minded potential candidates from running too, and so,over time, you diminish the pool of principled candidates until there are none left and the only choice you have is a choice between the lesser of two evils.

In this manner you have chosen to vote for and create a government run by evil people. This is the unintended consequence of falling to the siren's song of voting pragmatism over principles. It will never get better in America until we realize this trap and STOP and STAND LIKE A ROCK ON PRINCIPLES , just as Jefferson admonished us 250 years ago.



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Lesser of two evils - not on our watch!

Hi Libertybelle, don't know if you caught this press release posted here recently. It was issued jointly by four NJ tea parties. They're with you!

http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=zh6pa4dab...

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Judge Jim Gray on Voting Libertarian in 2012

Here is Judge Jim Gray in a new video on why we should vote Libertarian in the 2012 election:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uabCi9OskqE&feature=player_em...

Thank you!

...for sharing this!

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

Electing the lesser of two

Electing the lesser of two evils ensures that the second most evil person possible is always the leader.

Most people are risk adverse. That's why they hate freedom, and it's why they will backtrack to the second most evil candidate instead of their preferred but underdog candidate. But their risk adverseness is also their weakness when it comes to competition.

because the lesser of two evils is still evil.

I use that quote whenever I'm talking to misguided neocons. It works.

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Devil's Advocate

OK, I follow your reasoning and vote for candidate A resulting in the corrupt incumbent being re-elected. I've indirectly just helped keep a crook in office. If I helped defeat the incumbent by voting for B I would have sent a message than being a crook will get you fired.

I'll admit most of the time I do vote my principles. The last time I voted for a winning Presidential candidate was Reagan in '84. The few times I voted for the lesser of 2 evils (mainly congressional races) I've been disappointed by the actions of the candidate I helped elect.

But the 'loser', Candidate A

But the 'loser', Candidate A will run again and possibly win next time as his/her platform becomes understood and theri name becomes known. It's the long view of the ultimate consequences, IMO, that is important to bring to ppls attention.

Mike Benoit (in San Diego, CA) has run for congress now 7 times, maybe this time he will win.

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

I'm not familar with Mr. Benoit.

And maybe he's a loser would should step aside and give a stronger candidate a chance.

What???

Gee, you sound like the MSM and what the RNC would like to say to Ron Paul!!

Mike is not preventing someone else from running, Bob! He happens to be running against 4 other candidates. Mike Benoit works his A** of for Ron Paul and has for years. If you are not familiar with him, perhaps you should learn about him before you make such a statement. He is fighting a family dynasty in his district (Duncan Hunter II) and I respect his indominable spirit. He's not a quitter, the message of Liberty he brings and promotes while campaigning is far to important to just walk away and quit. He has spent his career changing hearts and minds about Liberty and realizes a campaign is the perfect forum to do this, win or lose.

Gee sounds like a certain Congressman I know...

http://www.michaelbenoit.org/

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

Every potential candidate

Every potential candidate should ask themselves a few questions before they make a run for office here are some of them:
What do I hope to accomplish by running?
Is there a better way to reach my goals other then running?
What resources will I need to run?
Are there better uses of those resources?
When someone runs and loses for the same office 6 times maybe they need to take a hard look at themselves. Maybe, Mr. Benoit needs to find a better way to forward the cause of liberty. Maybe, its time for someone else who believes in liberty to run in Mr. Benoit's district and by stepping aside maybe Mr. Benoit can help find and encourage that candidate. Also Mr. Benoit needs to remember that the national liberty movement has very limited resources maybe the movement would be better off if those resources want to someone else, someone would had a chance of winning.

Who are you...

...that you think you can judge him and his campaign lacking? A professional campaign manager? Have you run for office yourself? Do you hold an elected office? If so, I can tell by your tone would would have stated so. Nope, your just another guy with an opinion about someone, you have admitted, that you know nothing about.

"Should" is an awfully BIG word to use on anyone other then yourself, Bob. Who are you to Judge Mike Benoit? You have not walked in his shoes. I know him personally and campaign for him and Ron Paul. And just yesterday, after our local Ron Paul monthly meeting (that he chaired) we sat and had a beer over our next moves to forward, not only Ron Paul's message but his campaign too. Yes, I work in the trenches for Liberty too. I literally have blisters on my left toe from walking door to door. Ron Paul may not win so are you gonna judge me as lacking too, for trying?

I know Mike very, very well. There are very few people I have ever met who have accomplished so much for the cause for Liberty, then Michael Benoit. He has spent his adult life dedicated to it and has awaken THOUSANDS to the message of Liberty. And he has done this, tirelessly, for FREE for the love of Liberty. He has given far far more to the community and the cause of Liberty the any campaign contribution he has ever recieved. Believe me, Mike is a net PLUS for the Liberty movement.

You are in no position to judge him, for you know him not.

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

Please comment and vote up, I

Please comment and vote up, I think it's an important read...(but maybe that's cause I wrote it!! ;-D)

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

bump

This is a very well thought out response to the usual answer of why we as a people vote for a candidate we hate...less evil is always still evil...

Thanks! I had a ephiney a

Thanks! I had a ephiney a few months ago on this. Realizing that it was this very pervasive attitude that, over time, that had created the political climate we have today. The essay has been floating around in my head and last night an activist friend asked for help with this arguement, so I sat down and wrote it for him, and decided to share it here. I hope ppl can add this arguement to their arsenal when confronted with the, "I like Ron Paul but he can't win response"

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

Hey guys, isn't it grand that

Hey guys, isn't it grand that we have found, and stand by, OUR principled candidate, and now look how many more like minded are stepping up to the plate to run for office! We, who stand strong on principles will show the pragmatists what we are made of, and WE WILL TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!

RON PAUL 2012!!

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

Liberty is both pragmatic and idealistic.

We know it works, it just happens to be a grand idea.

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