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You want these people on your side

Progressive and social-change organizers and organizations are having a hard time seeing the atheist movement as… well, as anything, really. Except maybe as a pain in the neck. Many progressives are undoubtedly aware of the existence of atheists: the atheist community’s efforts at visibility have been paying off, and atheism is being discussed in progressive circles as widely as it is everywhere else. But somehow, while the existence of atheists has become undeniable, the existence of atheism as a social change movement is still largely being ignored. To give just one example: In over 100 panels, training sessions, and other presentations at the upcoming 2012 Netroots Nation conference for online progressive activists, not one is about atheists or atheism.

It’s hard to tell what this is about. Do social change organizations see atheists as toxic — too controversial, too likely to draw negative attention, more trouble than we’re worth? Or are these organizations simply unaware that atheists have formed into a serious social change movement — and are growing this movement at a rapid pace?

If it’s the former… then shame on you. In the early days of the LGBT movement, queers were far more controversial than they are now, and associating with queers was considered by many to be toxic. It was still the right thing to do. (Not to mention the smart thing to do.)

If it’s the latter… then sit up. Pay attention. Atheists are here. In just a few short years, the movement has gone from zero to sixty, in both visibility and mobilization. And the atheist movement is largely comprised of people who are passionate, compassionate, courageous, Internet savvy, skilled at seeing through bullshit, willing to defy the status quo, excited about activism… and dedicated to changing the world. After all, as far as they’re concerned, it’s the only world they’ve got.

You want these people on your side.


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I was an atheist...

Until I Googled Ron Paul.


the reason that nobody is fighting for the support of the atheist movement is because it's stupid. Seriously. Rallying to tell people what you DON'T believe in? Makes about as much sense as calling Pizza Hut to tell them not to deliver anything to you because you don't like their food.

BTW, I'm an atheist myself. I'm not ashamed of it, but I rarely talk about it because unless I bring it up, it doesn't come up. And when I do mention it, nobody cares.

If I burn to many bridges I'll never get off this awful island.

I agree

However, there are many Christians that use their religious views to influence their political ideals. I don't ever bring up atheism in converstation unless someone is trying to use their religious opinions as a basis to back up their argument. If no one would invoke religion to begin with I would never bring it up. But, are people that don't buy into an illogical mythology suppose to just say nothing when religion is presented to them as fact?

I was involved with religion and attended church until about 3 years ago when I started researching money and banking and the origins of Government. In my view once you start down the rabbit hole, you can't just stop at the point where you hit the religious brick wall. That wall held me back for a long time because it was extremely uncomfortable for me to deal with but if you indeed take the red pill, it's not possible to be true to yourself if you give religion a free pass.

Research the Vatican. Research the reason why churchs are tax exmempt. Research why God is on the Federal Reserve Note. Most people involved with the liberty movement abhor being controlled and told what to do by a select group of people. Religon is used very much in the same way that Government is used. To instill fear in people and as a method of control.

Religion and Belief Not Necessarily the Same

There are a (growing) number of people who do reject organized religion and the now revealed interconnection of controls perpetrated upon populations by the "church."
However, this rejection does not always carry with it (and logically need not) an outright rejection of belief in a God. What some will argue is that the truth of a God (and so much more) was entirely corrupted and covered by men and the powers of the world.
We should all be mindful to this and take care (more than ever) not to over-generalize for anyone.
Though I do understand it is incredibly frustrating when someone uses a religious dogma as fact, when it is not necessarily a proven fact. On the other hand, it is entirely possible (depending upon the issue) that a "dogma" has some factual validity.
As to whether it should inform their political views -- the libertarian stand can only be that they are entitled to that entanglement (as long as no harm to others), just as much as one who will inform their political views with a disbelieving worldview (as long as no harm to others).
Hopefully, ALL can agree that this sojourn on earth at this time is worth every ounce of energy to take care of it -- whether it is the only one or not.
Question: What goal(s) through activism are atheists generally trying to achieve? Sincere question.
I am not an atheist, but I am not a religionist.
We all need and want to give love -- this is a universal, I believe.

Very well put, I left the

Very well put, I left the church too, but I didn't leave God. The church betrays God just like our political parties betray the voters, the world is filled with lies, but that fact doesn't invalidate the truth on the rare occasion one stumbles over it! BTW, I welcome the atheists and all others, I won't push my personal or religious views unto them if they will treat me likewise.

In God we trust

I'm among the MANY who have left "the church." If for different reasons (not to MOCK), I agree with one thing President Obama said: "Folks haven't been reading their Bible!" I'd like to add a few points. Thanks to politicized curriculum, by now we Americans are ignorant of this country's religious/spiritual heritage.(Check out historian David Barton and many resources on the subject at wallbuilders.com) Our history should be appreciated for what it is, not BLACKED OUT for political correctness in even such documents as Washington's inaugural speeches, quoted in textbooks with ellipses... to delete references to God. The Bible was the single most quoted resource at the Constitutional Conventions and in correspondence among the founders. Second, key to the beauty - and genius - of our UNIQUE founding is that WE believe our rights are GOD GRANTED, not GOVERNMENT GRANTED. What the government "grants" it can take away: what GOD grants cannot be taken away. (Atheism is key to communism.) Here, atheists - all of us - enjoy our LIBERTY thanks to God.

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

(as long as no harm to others)?

Of the 100's of millions of people slaughtered over the past century, what is the ONE thing they all have in common? WWIII is being predicated as a war between "Good" (Christians) and "Evil" (Islam).

Do you not find it ironic that 99% of all children raised in Iran become followers of the Islam faith and 99% of the children raised in the western world become Christians?

This was not my purpose in posting the article and we have more important fish to fry right now. I respect your viewpoints and I won't comment any further on this thread because the last thing I intended to do was get people on this site fighting amongst ourselves. Ironically the post was an effort to bring more of us together but I often times learn more when I am down voted than when people agree with posts/comments.


...Sorry. It was actually clear to me that you are trying to get all to work together.

Please let me clarify. The "as long as no harm to others" is a qualifier intended to apply to an INDIVIDUAL. I meant that an individual is entitled to their belief as long as they don't harm someone b/c of it. I would bet that most of your friends who believe fall into this category. That was my point.

There is no defense or argument whatsoever for collective religions which breed hate and exclusivism that always have (and always will) bring nothing but hate and bloodshed. Anyone with half an eye open knows this.

Maybe we are in mostly agreement.?

I agree with you that ALL of us should be working together to make this revolution happen.