I believe this breakfast meeting is a turning point. The campaign is raising a white flag.
Submitted by dexterszyd on Mon, 05/14/2012 - 13:20This is interesting and thought it was passed over as no big deal. Ron Paul recently had lunch with Ben Bernake at the FED HQ in Washington.
I will be keeping an eye on events or changes in posture from either the campaign or Fed since the discussions were " off the record" Ron Paul has always been consistent and I don't expect him to change. What I find peculiar though are some odd statements from Tate and Benton embrassing a passive approach to conventions this past weekend. Condemning Idaho actions and supporting RNC funding.
And now a passive letter virtually suspending the campaign without actually using those words (Ron Paul's message 5/14/2012)
Perhaps I'm just a skeptic at heart but we should all be vigilant and aware since politics can be deceptive......
I am not saying anything about Ron Paul and his character , just am being a watchful observer of events.....
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/339674/20120510/ron-paul-ber...
Just thinking out loud....
Why has everything changed with the campaign now that we have a momentum shift?
DEX
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It is an example
But in a different way... he was just beginning to get traction then "dropped out" and came back then lost, people stopped taking him seriously when he "dropped out".
Hmm... I see how the he has dropped out could help the campaign get delegates, but it screws the mainstream supporter. I think that if Perot had stayed in he could have one the first time... And I think Paul should have stuck it out too.... sigh I guess running for President is too hard for people who have principles.
Brilliant post!
Indeed. This is 1992 all over again.
"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."
Except we know he isn't dropping out
Since we know he isn't dropping out, we just work harder than ever. When the general election comes around, he has the reputation of overcoming all obstacles (like winning the nomination against the "presumptive nominee").
I am certain he has been threatened continuously. He's probably
used to it by now. Geez. And Ben knows it too.
SequoiaTrees4RonPaul
I bet he was threatened...
...at that little breakfast meeting.
Makes sense to me.
"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."
Stranger things have
Stranger things have happened. Until something as serious as a threat against you or your family is real, you cannot say for certain how you will respond.
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Getting too close to the man behind the curtain
I hope I'm wrong
For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.
We were NOT in it to win it....
Because if we were, this latest announcement and Jess Benton's announcement of yesterday would not have happened. PERIOD!
Listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZI0MlCekYI
Esp. RE: Jesse Benton at around 5 minutes in.
"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."
Thanks for the link! I like
Thanks for the link! I like Addison.
I hate to get involved in yet
I hate to get involved in yet another conspiracy thread, but there just might be something to this. It was very strange that Ron met with Ben, because he never really addressed the reasons for that breakfast to supporters, not did he communicate what was discussed.
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It just seems too weird
Im devastated by the resent headlines.
After all we have done....
If this is some elaborate strategy that some on here are asserting, I think it's sending a very disturbing message
For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.
George Washington Raised A White Flag And Took It To Battle
AN APPEAL TO HEAVEN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Flag
This is not the white flag you think it is.
It is a battle flag; the battle flag of our first Navy!
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This reminded me of
The article I read in the Seattle times about Russians "strolling" in Moscow in protest this weekend. They wore white ribbons as a symbol:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2018199144...
"The choice we face is stark...
For 'tis not steel,
But the ideal
That must hit its mark."
Delegates!
Forward march.
Well then
Where the hell is the battle cry? Cause the only crap I'm hearing from the campaign is that it's a quest....and movement....
Where are the strong statements of leader that say, "We are in it to win"!
Unless winning is not what they want......we have the establishment by the balls and they are letting the air out of the balloon ...
For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.
DOUG WEAD'S BATTLE CRY... Ron Paul is not OUT! He is UP!
DOUG WEAD'S BATTLE CRY...
Ron Paul is not OUT! He is UP!
“We are absolutely not dropping out of this race! We are focusing our efforts squarely on winning delegates and party leadership positions at state conventions.”
- Jesse Benton, Campaign Chairman
Ron Paul announced today he would not be competing in the upcoming primary states, saying that he would focus, instead, on his delegate strategy. A strategy that is working, by the way, and transforming the Republican Party. It is something he has said many times since the February 11, 2012 caucus in Maine.
Only this time, the main stream media gave the announcement full attention and treated it like the end of his campaign. Drudge ran it as a front page headline “Ron Paul is out.”
It is all evidence that Alfred Harmsworth’s famous quote that “news is not when a dog bites a man but, rather, when a man bites a dog” has now been offciaily turned on its head.
For the last two years the national media has been saying that Ron Paul is out. So how could that possibly be news? One might ask, “When has the mainstream media ever thought that Ron Paul was in?”
Bracing for a Ron Paul win in Iowa, major new outlets last January announced that if he won, the Iowa Caucus, itself, would be discredited. According to the New York Times and the Associated Press, Ron Paul is still listed as the recipient of one, count em, one delegate from Iowa, a state that he now dominates.
Likewise, the fact that Ron Paul supporters took a big chunk of the delegation of Mitt Romney’s home state of Massachusetts was not big news. This was evidently not a man biting a dog. There were no headlines, just small reports saying we were “flooding” state conventions with delegates. We were sucker punching the front runner. Even this, “we were stealing delegates.” Now, that’s a trick.
It was a ridiculous assertion. One cannot “flood” state conventions with delegates. Nor can one “steal” a delegates, unless they mean we packed them away in vans and drove them off to camps behind barbed wired. Each delegate was elected at District or County caucuses by delegates that were elected at precinct caucuses. So yes, one can flood precinct caucuses with people who in turn must get elected but that had to happen last January or February. It was then that we beat Romney in Massachusetts, and all the other states, it was in the heat of battle.
Now? We are trying to make nice. Like our attempt to “give” him the delegation from Arizona, an offer his man refused to make. So after three attempts to give him a majority we reluctantly won instead, thank you.
The fact is that all of this fighting makes Ron Paul nervous. Yes, he is taking on the establishment. Yes, he wants the monetary policy reformed so that the poor and the middle class and even the excluded rich can know the thrill and opportunity of free markets that aren’t rigged for insider trading. But Dr. Paul is a happy warrior on these issues. He is a person who has always believed in a respectful dialogue and debate. As John Tate says, “That is what he wants his legacy to be.”
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Shouting people down is not Ron Paul’s way. Winning a battle of ideals based on principles, in a respectful way, is how he approaches the contest and it is how he wants others to approach the contest, as well.
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By ending the primary battles, Ron Paul is signalling to the field that this is the end of hostilities. In primaries you end up tearing each other down. It is millions of dollars spent on negative advertising. In caucuses, as brutal as they may be, you change the Republican Party, you empower the new and challenge the established.
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The delegate strategy is working. That is the way we will impact the platform in Tampa. That is the way we will begin the process of change. It is through the caucuses that we are attracting youth, like the twenty-one year old woman recently elected to the national committee from Maine or the Ron Paul Hispanics or the Independents who have never been involved in party politics.
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Yes there is pain.
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The establishment turned off the air conditioning at the Arizona State GOP Convention last weekend, trying to sweat the Ronulans into leaving.
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In Oklahoma they pulled out a ballroom divider to cordon off Ron Paul supporters and shut them out of participation. Later they turned out the lights. Voice votes that were clearly lost were declared won.
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In Carson County, Nevada they turned off a microphone when a Hispanic tried to speak, they knew that Hispanics were for Ron Paul.
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In Minnesota they told their people not to vote for any delegate under the age of fifty.
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In Alaska, they defeated the majority by retaining the committee which “interpreted rules” and later, after taking the delegation, reluctantly gave up the party control to the new majority but transferred all of the money out of the Republican Party accounts.
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In Virginia, at a District Convention, they coaxed the Ron Paul delegation outside and then locked the door. The pastor of the church that was hosting the event was, himself, locked outside.
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In Missouri they had all the delegates sign up at County Conventions and then had their County Chairman take the rolls outside and lock them in their car trunks so they could block roll call voting and have their chairman declare lost voice votes as won. At another convention delegates were arrested.
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Our people have been punched, yelled at, lied to and worked until they can hardly stand. But on they come, fighting for their children, fighting for their future, angry at the corruption of the banks, of Wall Street, of the lobbyists, of the congress, of the White House. The battle for liberty is not over. It has just taken on a new phase. It cannot be stopped by the national media. If that were the case it would never have been born in the first place.
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And some will say that it is a lost cause, which I will not concede but it does remind me of Clarence Darrow’s famous line, “Lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for.”
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http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/05/14/ron-paul-is-not-out...
Why would Ron Paul turn down a chance to talk to Bernake?
And I can't think of a better person for Bernake to have lunch with than Dr. Paul.
who knows?
I am suspicious of everything/everyone, and I know that no man is a God (or woman).
Things get crazier every day. I believe in the principles Dr. Paul teaches, so I don't see how that can change. His words (or actions) have not disappointed me in 25 years--
it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--
I'm certain
that many of us grass-root supporters had a "What the heck?" moment when this story came to light...I know I did, anyway. I, too, will be looking for 'suspicious changes' within the campaign.
I trust Ron Paul implicitly and do NOT buy into the propaganda that he's controlled opposition. My concern is: Was Paul or his family threatened in some way?
Since Dr. Paul repeatedly states that he believes in discussing opposing beliefs regarding important issues, I am hoping that this meeting was along those lines. Perhaps Bernanke, et al, realize that Keynesian economics has failed and are now willing to listen to a credible source (Dr. Paul) on Austrian economics?? This is a rEVOLution, a peaceful rEVOLution, for hearts and minds...
O.P.O.G.G. - Fighting the attempted devolution of the rEVOLution
Ron Paul 2012...and beyond
BAN ELECTRONIC VOTING!!
Nothing Against Paul - I Believe The Fed Would Turn to Others
beside Paul for any trun toward Austrian economics.
Something has changed
And not for the better
For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.
Have you ever seen that movie...
...where a bank robber pretends he is a terrorist who blows up a building to hide the fact that he robbed a safe in the building? Silly Bruce Willis move right?
Do you know how much gold was stored at world trade center?
Ben showed him it's too late
The BRICS have beaten us and Fort Knox is empty. They won't take our dollars in exchange. The military special ops, NSA and CIA have all cut a deal to the highest bidder (just like in post USSR and post Nazi Germany).
The politicians have said only US dollars will be accepted within the USA and holding foreign currency, silver, gold or bottle caps will be illegal and punishable by death. Every other country will be able to buy products from us with Dollars they print.
Ben called them counterfeiters and then secretly slid Ron's coke bottle cap into his pocket.
mmmmmm.... caps.
Crap, I have a bunch of
Crap, I have a bunch of bottle caps!
"Liberty, once lost, is lost forever" -John Adams
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