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I've lost a lot of respect for this movement today

... this movement today.

I used to be in awe of the collective intellect of this community and, to a degree, I still am ... just to a much lesser degree.

All of the naysaying going on around here, when Ron Paul clearly stated that it's not over, is absolutely ridiculous. The very definition of knee-jerk.

Ron Paul: our father, our muse, our standard-bearer has NOT abandoned us; in fact it's closer to the opposite. This strategy is due to OUR lack of financial support. The movement is several times larger than 2007-08, and we're so much closer to the prize, yet we haven't even come close to breaking the 6 million a day record we set. That is very puzzling to me.

Are the huge college crowds just one school trying to beat the attendance numbers set by other schools? I don't think so. You'd think we would've smashed the 6 million mark by now, not just due to our larger numbers but also, as earlier stated, due to the fact that our guy is doing so much better and actually WINNING this time. I just don't understand.

Yes, the economy is worse, but not THAT much worse.

Another thing ... let me ask you all a question: Is Ron Paul stupid? Is Ron Paul a pussy? Apparently, despite the OVERWHELMING evidence to the contrary, a lot of you think so. He'd have to be if what many of you claim is true. If Benton and Wead are saboteurs then Dr. Paul must be stupid and/or afraid of them. Why else would he not fire their asses? Ron Paul is brilliant; Ron Paul is the most courageous man of our time and probably the most fearless "politician" in our country's history, but some of you believe that he's too stupid and/or too afraid to rid himself of saboteurs. Really?

TRUST OUR GUY! He has the advantage of 1) being smarter than any of us and 2) having THE best vantage point in all of this. He is THE insider in our movement. He's the only one who knows what he's truly thinking and what's truly in his heart. Benton and Wead only know what he tells them and we know a small fraction of that.

The negativity is going to destroy this movement. We're fracturing. And why? Because, apparently, the MSM--who you all never believe--said Ron Paul quit and NOW you believe them.


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I say true to that my friend!

We need to keep on truckin. To stop before Dr. Paul says its over is nonsense. I'm sure Paul directs his help. I'm sure he his very very close to Benton and Wead. Like I even said before, Dr. Paul is smarter than us. Why not do what he is doing? The man is close to out if money. He is going all the way to Tampa and further. Who is going to vote for him is going to vote. If you want him to be on every channel and rally every day then how about raising a minimum of 20 million? Like he even said and we already know, that he is not a Goldman Sacs candidate.

So the media was responsible

So the media was responsible for Jesse Benton making his ridiculous comments to Politico basically saying Paul folks are causing a disruption and condemning our brothers and sisters in Idaho from taking over the state's convention?

Those who bash anyone questioning anything about the campaign or blaming the MSM for bad statements mad by Benton and other nitwits in the campaign need to reevaluate.

Mathew 8:26....

O ye of little faith...

The Libertarian Party, irrelevant since 1971.

...the Drudge Report

Never, never going to that site again, he's officially just as bad as the rest of the media. You'd think Matt Drudge would sell himself out for a higher price, or at least wear some pants to conceal his establishment cheerleader skirt.

I never...

believed it for a second.

i feel the same annoyance

but surprisingly, i will make an excuse for them, as i rarely do for people. a lot of the people around here lately seem new.. i recently thought there could be a massive influx of trolls, but they came in such abundance, i doubt romney could afford the pay on such a 24/7 level, even if they were. i suspect many of these to be those inexperienced youths you see around this country's campuses in recently recorded videos of thousands gathered each time at ron paul's rallies.

more seasoned supporters i believe are less prone to these outbreaks, and if they are, shame on them, especially if you're over 30 (grow up pls), but for many new supporters, this may be their first time feeling a so called 'set-back', similarly when we lost south carolina this election cycle, there was an outbreak of negative posts, but those that stuck around eventually matured, and look, they are the same people running for delegates right now, so there is hope. quite a lot of it, actually, i expect people to grow much from this.

Ya think maybe the economy

Ya think maybe the economy has anything to do with this?

There is no Left or Right -- there is only freedom or tyranny. Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and silent as the world burns around you." - Philip Brennan

"Invest only in things that you can stand in front of and pr

I could not stop laughing reading the Washington Times

article on Drudge. They bought this hook, line, and sinker. I can not believe that they are not warning of a Trojan horse plot by the Paulites. How many more conventions will we win before the will see that they were hosed? They just cannot bring themselves to talk about the Paul campaign in fear that someone might actually pay attention to the movement.


on the topic of donations now

on the topic of donations now vs back then. you know, tbh, the only time i ever hear about a money bomb or that its time to donate is from someone posting on this forum. how about you all? its either here or from a campaign email because theyve got my info already.

pretty sure that all the folks attending the rallys arent on daily paul to find out whats the haps on donating to the campaign.... seriously the campaign isnt getting the word out to the average joe that they are running these money bombs so how could they expect to get more grassroots funds than back in 2008?

they need people at these rallys passing out little credit card sized info-slips with a website of where to go to donate (and when). seriously, people need to be informed if ur expecting them to part with their money as it wont just happen automagically.

My best friend

Died in Iraq in 2003 in Mosul, Iraq. He was sent there to find the 'WMDs' and the rest is history. Paul clearly said he was not giving up today and the memory of PFC. Andy Tuazon is all I need to know. We are standing up against a machine with incredible resources and the progess we've made will carry on aslong as we pick up the torch to Tampa and beyond. The delegates that have represented Paul now , past and in the future through the likes of Ustream and individual media outlets have inspired a generation. Each and everyone of you has touched someone that would have otherwise fell complacent. We all understand the consequences of giving up, and we all know it is unacceptable. Within the next four years, CISPA or a variant will be passed, the debt will explode, all Americans will suffer and Government's noose on liberty will tighten. This is a test to check the resolve of a angry, tireless minority. Just remember "Whether You Think You Can or think you can't, You are Right" - Henry Ford.

To PFC Andy Tuazon and YOU

God Bless you Both, as your post reminds me of the incredible people who bring amazing energy and life to this rEVOLution.


Ron Paul is not "Our Father"

This guy must be new.

Ron Paul is not our leader. We are our own leaders in this fight to take down the PTB. Ron Paul has the biggest voice in that fight and we support that.

Oh stop ...

... he is the leader of our movement. To say he isn't is ridiculous.

Was the American Revolution full of individuals with their own plans and strategies? No, they rallied behind great leaders. There's nothing wrong with following the lead of someone or being inspired by someone.


But, hey ... I know you're an individual. I would never try to take that from you.

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This movement

Has been leaderless since the beginning. As soon as we crown Ron Paul a King we become no better then the hero worshiping Obama supporters.

Based on your logic, if Ron Paul left the race the movement would be over.

That's where you're dead wrong.

I'm done ...

... you're being ridiculous.

This place should probably change its name to Daily Whatshislibertarianface.

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just wanted to say

this little gem...

"Ron Paul: our father, our muse, our standard-bearer has NOT abandoned us"

...disturbed the hell out of me. W.T.F?

If you need a idol figure to keep you involved, you've completely missed the point of this whole r3VOLution. I don't give a flying fuck what Ron Paul does or doesn't do. If he wants to run for office, I'll vote for him. I'll even give him my money. But if he gave up tomorrow, that would have no bearing on my efforts toward liberty.

Is Ron Paul not ...

... the father of our movement?

Is he not our inspiration (muse)?

Is he not our standard-bearer?

I'm not a religious person ... I didn't mean that like "father, son, holy ghost".

Just stating facts.

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I liked your thoughts. I am

I liked your thoughts. I am sorry no one seems to agree that Ron is to some a leader and a muse and the father of our movement. To me, he is all that, as well. I went through the 60's--we never had a leader like Ron, and may never again when he is gone. But I am so proud to have known him, and listened to him, and have had him (o yeah, it was HIM) cure my apathy.
I liked your whole post, but, some around here need to see that Ron could just be different things to different people. I don't care. As long as they are awake and remember him when he is gone so as to BE like him in this political world, and, through sheer perseverance, to change it for the best.

Yeah, you're new...

Ron Paul is one of us. An individual. He just happens to like the same things people do. Freedom, Liberty, and a restoration of this nations Constitution. He is one of many. Not just one.

I've been here longer than you, probably.

Yes, he is one of us, but he's the face and founder of the Revolution we've joined.

Am I wrong? He was a hardcore libertarian when you were probably still in love with Reagan.

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Just like the trolls of yore

You attack with a quip that has no bearing on the debate at hand. Ron Paul is not our father. We are.


...just stop. It's a saying. As in George Washington is the father of our country. It's not literal, and neither was I. It means the same thing as Jon Stewart calling him "Patient Zero". He founded this Revolution ... he's the "father" of this Revolution.

No one is crowning anyone king. He's the man we chose to represent us. Why? Because he's just another guy? Please. If you don't see that he is exceptional, then why the fuck are you here? I would never vote for ANY politician. It took someone like Dr. Paul. I guess you'd support anyone who speaks your words? Not me, I want proof. Ron Paul is the only one who has proven himself to me.

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I just joined DP, but have been a supporter of freedom and a libertarian since I knew what one was (and even before that- just didn't know what to call myself.) Just understand that there are a lot of people here who have been fighting this fight for a long time...Way before Ron Paul became well known in 2007. To them, to me, Ron Paul signified the emergence of MY ideals into mainstream politics (or at least much more so than I am able to remember.) B4 2007, I had never met another libertarian. I had never met another person who knew what a libertarian was (and that was not for a lack of asking.) For those people, and for me, the idea that Ron Paul IS the movement is heartbreaking. To us, WE are the movement! Likewise, I have no doubt that Ron Paul feels the same way. To many, however, (such as you I assume) Ron Paul IS their leader b/c he opened their eyes and cured their apathy. I'm VERY thankful for that and VERY thankful to learn that I am not as alone (politically) as I used to think that I was. Ron Paul def. deserves a lot of credit for that, but he is not the only one! To put it in other words: Ron Paul has "lead" many to a movement that has been around for a while and really needed the boost. :) NEVER give up the fight!!!

"When I say liberty I do not simply mean what is referred to as 'free enterprise.' I mean liberty of the individual to think his own thoughts and live his own life as he desires to think and to live..." - Robert A. Taft

The MSM is trying to DIVIDE AND DESTROY US<,

and we are giving in, in the worst case scenario, The Government declared on US citizens and started attacking us, would you break down like this?, or fight back!, I saw this and I knew it was festering of BS! This whole campaign was meant to teach supporters that Ron Paul can't fucking be there all the time for us, we gotta stand up for ourselves and fight back on our own, we have to be our own individuals, that is Liberty, he has done so much, He has gone all the way because he believes in what he is doing, his belief in Liberty is as legendary as his refusal to give up against the empire, he is going for the nomination, AND WE MUST KEEP FIGHTING, BE YOUR OWN RON PAUL, OR IN OTHER WORDS YOUR OWN MAN, THE MSM IS DOING THIS BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO WINNING, IF YOU HEAR THE WORSE NEWS FROM MSM, THATS GREAT, It means we are destroying them, they are giving everything they've got against us, WE CAN'T FALL!


The campaign is doing a good job enough of dividing us with their incompetence

Yes, BUT I think it is pretty great that we can get a million

every couple of weeks. YES, I wish it was more, but it tells me that Ron Paul still has his integrity intact and will not take the money (bribes) from Special Interest, Corporate Elite, and Gangster Bankers. GOOD for us, GOOD for you Dr. Paul. We need a cure and he is still it.

He has a plan, lets stick to it. Stretch for the money bomb on the 17th, lets get another million!!


If most of the so called supporters could get off there butts and donate just 10 dollars to the Campaign then we would have more money than Romney ever wish he could get but I guess peoples greed is more important that their lives and their children's lives... Go ahead and hold on to that ten bucks... let me know what it's worth to you at the end of the year when it's to F'in late to change whats coming...

These will be the people that will be crying the most in the end while we will be standing there saying, "we F'in told ya"...!!!

Someone else said it

But its true.

We do not belong to Ron Paul, Ron Paul belongs to us. We believe in Ron Paul, because Ron Paul believes in Us. We keep fighting however we can.

This will never be over, since eternal Liberty requires eternal vigilance.

This is no place for a cult of personality.

Get out

there and kick some ass this weekend!!!!

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm just well-informed

My commitment to liberty

Goes well beyond Ron Paul.
He's in it to win it, and so am I.
I've been just reading these last few weeks, and I'd like to say something to those who want to bail, goodbye.
Personally, my life my fortune and my sacred honor all are fully involved.
See you in Tampa where we will Rock the GOP, the MSM and America.

Drew, by the very grace of GOD through the blood of Christ Jesus.
"there shall come after us men whom shall garner great wealth using our system, and having done so shall seek to slam the door of prosperity behind them." George Washington