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Jesse Benton to Politico: Paul feared convention mayhem...didn't like disrespect at recent events

From Politco:

Ron Paul’s message to the GOP
By James Hohmann, May 14, 2012

Ron Paul sent a message to the GOP establishment Monday that he’s not looking to cause mayhem at this summer’s Republican National Convention.

By announcing that he won’t compete in the remaining primaries, Paul tacitly assured the party that he didn’t intend to disrupt the likely Tampa coronation of Mitt Romney. And he also telegraphed to even the hardest core of his hope-trumping-evidence supporters that he might not, after all, be the 2012 nominee...

"...'It concerns him,' campaign chairman Jesse Benton told POLITICO. 'He wants to convey to everybody and our staff want to convey that we’ll lose more than we gain if we go and we’re disrespectful. Respect and decorum are very important to Dr. Paul.'

'You need to give respect to get respect,' he added. 'We are confident that there will be mutual respect at the convention. We want to make sure that we take every step we can to make sure that happens.'..."

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Passion is good. Booing is unacceptable.

Booing is immature and disrespectful behavior.

Do you want Romney supporters to BOO Ron Paul at the national convention? Why wouldn't they? That's right. Maturity and respect.

Demonstrate it to receive it in return. You want to make your man the laughingstock? Then keep booing those with whom you disagree.


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Respect is earned not a

Respect is earned, it's not a right... In my opinion we should be doing more than booing.

NOTE: I am not advocating violence in any way. The content of the post is for intellectual, theoretical, and philosophical discussion. FEDS, please don't come to my house.

Exactly

I don't think we should boo like kids.

Instead we should use the "Mature and Respectful" approach brought to us by the Romney and RNC camp, such as backstabbing, lying and all around cheating behind our backs, while they smile in your face.

Decorum and Respect are everything after all.

I posted this and this is my take

I posted this article and this is my take: I don't believe Benton was referring to the state conventions in several states where Paul picked up more delegates than Romney. While I'm not sure if this was the de facto reason as to why Paul won't campaign in the remaining states, I'm sure he didn't care for a minority of Paul supporters booing Republicans off stage at recent events. Booing is something liberals do at college campuses and it never draws sympathy to your cause. If several speakers are booed off the stage at the Republican convention from Paul supporters, I can guarantee our cause will be lost.

Booing started by

The booing was started by a NON Ron Paul supporter Mark Zemel and many of his supporters followed, of course some miss behaving Ron Paul supporters joined in. Mark is the author of the now famous "Oppose Ron Paul" slate.

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Well, well,

well.....

No, this is wrong.

I've seen at least five or more witnesses at both conventions see multiple types of cheating including ballot stuffing, a machine fixed to read the ballots wrong, and counting votes after the convention is over. The Arizona convention hasn't even decided to tell us the results after 3 days. It's less than a 1,000 votes to count with four people. They aren't even suppose to be counting them outside the convention.

It is WRONG to say nothing to the media. It's not government, it is the moral decay of letting every delegate witness to that, and SAY NOTHING to the media. This is why people are getting beat up, groped at airports, and doors busted in, BECAUSE IT ISN'T STOOD UP TO AND SAID ITS WRONG. This is just slapping someone who you just wronged by not standing up for them.

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Shouldn't the campaign be asking Arizona where are the ballots?

Shouldn't the campaign be asking Arizona where are the ballots?

Isn't that what this is really about?

I've have seen numerous witness accounts of them setting the machines to read the votes wrong in Arizona. Isn't that what the campaign should be releasing a statement about?

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You need to give respect to get respect?

Hey how is that working out for Ron Paul? How much respect has he given. In the Army I was taught that to get respect you got to get the attention of the person you want to respect you in fact you had to demand respect.

Let me get it right I got to respect liars theives and chickenhawk mass murders because I want or need their respect? BAH

Lets hear it from Ron Paul not some lacky suspect. If for one second I realy thought that these were the true words feelings or intent of Ron Paul I would never go try to become a delegate for him, against all odds. Respect, like I get from the GOP when I simply state that I support Ron Paul?

Somone please tell me this Jesse Benton to Politico (Sold out propaganda media) Is just so much ballony and I need to ignore it.

If this is real I am not the right man for the job, I do not offer respect to those I detest and I want no respect from them.

That said, I think you do not fight fire with fire, you do much better with water. So I will not use their tactics Lie, CHeat, Steal, and much worse. Nope I will not, instead I will disengage in an enlightened manner. Truly thats what Ron Paul is to me just one more tool to disengage from the RedSheild evil matrix.

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If you have to demand respect

then all you get is outward "respect", not true inward respect. Respect is not the same as fear.

Any father who has to demand respect doesn't merit it and won't get it. That goes for any leader. We respect Ron Paul because he is respectable.

You do not have to respect liars, thieves, and mass murderers, and ought not, and neither does Ron Paul, but RP always acts the gentleman. He is responsible for his own behavior, not the liars'. When all is said and done, we are all responsible for our own behavior, not others'. They might behave badly, but we don't have to. We must fight back, surely, but we must do it in a respectable manner.

Having respect and acting respectfully are not the same

You don't have to respect someone or their views in order to treat them respectfully.

If you want to be treated respectfully by those who disagree with you, then you need to treat them respectfully. It's a necessary but not necessarily sufficient condition for being treated respectfully.


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I'm right there

With you. I don't understand this borderline pacifist approach. Hell our forefathers were on the verge of dueling to the death and physically fighting when they were crafting the constitution. It got so out of hand that Ben Franklin told everyone to take a break for 3 days and go to church and pray. Passion > respect.

You can turn the other cheek

You can turn the other cheek to hostile people and should.

This is about something else. It's duty the campaign has to send lawyers and complain about cheating when it occurs.

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I say giving respect HAS worked for RP

A whole swath of neocons became FORMER neocons, because of that. The reason RP is seen as different, is because he considers his opponent's opinion. This gives RP a less extremistic outlook and is one of the reasons why people were willing to give an old man, who is regarded as a kook by some, a chance.

Please everyone remain calm

We all know the media would do anything to alter the words of our teammates.
Being at the convention in Oklahoma I just wanted to say...
The establishment fought us hard. We did not back down and we will never give up.

So...were at what...stage 3?
1. Ignore you
2. Laugh at you
3. FIGHT YOU
4. You WIN!! For liberty!!!
*throws Oklahoma clinched fist in the air*

LewRockwell's Msg to te GOP Esablishment Re Ron's Grassroots

"You people are complaining, as usual, about anyone who challenges your entrenched and corrupt power, but now especially the Paulians, who are idealistic and dedicated to freedom. Do you want good relations with these wonderful people, who have donated millions of dollars and millions of hours to the greatest cause? Treat them with respect. Follow your own rules. Eschew shenanigans. Stop lying, cheating, and stealing. Then, maybe, you will be worthy to be in the same room with members of the Ron Paul grassroots."

While I have read most of the

While I have read most of the comments here, and agree with them, there is one thing it seems that is not being addressed. MANY of us were upset at the "booing off the stage" thing, that happened at the conventions. The raucous behavior, the chanting, etc. I guess some forgot that this is also Ron's Party, and he could not, and would not condone any sort of intentional disruption. Also, he would not understand why people his age would actually punch supporters, unless we somehow were blowing it. I believe, for everyone's safety and continual fight for freedom, he HAD to say something like he said. He had to let the Party know he was not into this sort of disruption because he is NOT.
Somehow, we have to be better than the crooks and cheats who fight us for freedom. We can't fight as dirty as they do, and come out with a clean result. The fight, however, must continue. I hold no love for the current party big-wigs, and still envision their defeat.

Crickett, I was there and he

Crickett, I was there and he did not get boo'ed (how do you spell boo'ed anyway) off the stage. He held up the Romney slate and told peole to vote for it, which is not allowed and we let him know it. The Ron Paul speaker didn't do this. Josh Romney finished his speech. Don't believe the media, they lie! And there are a lot of Romney trolls on this site lately, ignore them.

In the fog of war anything can happen. If the worst thing we do is show disrespect to the establishment, I think we are winning. At the AZ convention, a couple of Romney people assaulted Ron Paul supporters. There have been no reports of Paulites assaulting the Romnulans. I even had a Romnulan walk up to the police and asked to have me arrested because I was chanting "End The Wars" while another supporter was chanting "Ron Paul". We were doing this OUTSIDE to boot.

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That "booing Josh Romney off

That "booing Josh Romney off the stage" thing was simply not true.
The initial booing came when Josh goaded the crowd with his comment about his dad cinching up the nomination already, as if it already had occurred.
It seemed very scripted, designed to elicit responses from Paul supporters so that they could get their headline and negative exposure for our efforts.

As a person who has a little

As a person who has a little experience with the media, I bet this was an editing hit piece, like a lot of what they do. I'm sure Benton was talking about Tampa and his words were taken out of context. I know nothing about Politico. Does anyone know if they have done this in the past?

And as a heads up, if anyone here is ever interviewed by the media, record it yourself. Because when they screw you over you have proof they lied and they will be forced to retract.... not until the damage is done though!

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*Sigh*

Look, the point of it all, is that being all emotional and angry will only let ourselves be seen as being extremist and lunatic. Does this mean you aren't allowed to fight back? NO. You are EXPECTED to fight back. And I consider it near impossible to stay polite while fighting back. In that case, what do we mean then? Only fight back against those INDIVIDUALS that have done you wrong. The problem most people have is that they see Romney, Santorum and Gingrich supporters as one group and immediately start lecturing or attacking this group as THE enemy.

It's not about us against them. It's about we, as INDIVIDUALS, trying to combat INDIVIDUALS that have done us wrong, yet being respectful towards those INDIVIDUALS that can still be won to our cause. Some poster said it best, there's a time and place to be rude. If the GOP tries to screw you over, be as loud and rude as you want. But if some supporter tries to explain why he supports this or that candidate or why he thinks we have acted wrongly, explain in a civil manner, without being condescending or trying to lecture, why you disagree.

We mustn't see the enemy as a group, but as individuals, where some can still be won over. Determine which of them can be saved and which one can't and adjust your behaviour accordingly. But don't assume that NONE of them can be convinced, because I've seen numerous posts here making such generalizations.

where was Jesse in 1776?

he could have stopped a lot of bloodshed and maybe get knighted!

Jesse feared that his back office deal would fail

Jesse feared his back office deal with Romney would fail, if we continued to push at the conventions.

When it is all ideals, then Jesse is good...but when the fight comes, he becomes excess baggage.

According to Jesse Romney is within 200 delegates?!?! So Jesse subscribes to the AP's count I see. All the while a great majority of "Romney's" delegates ARE in actuality RP supporters!!

These guys, the RP campaign, are now playing politics. WE are NOT playing politics!

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Yeah. WHat's up with that. I

Yeah. WHat's up with that. I got very discouraged when I read about Romney within 200 delegates!

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Our disrespect?

How about the disrespect WE, as Ron Paul supporters, have faced in the forms of condescention, black-outs, etc. as well as our witnessing of the out-and-out disregard for rules and proceedures (THAT WE HONOR)during this nomination process? Jesse?

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We can turn the other cheek

We can turn the other cheek to our enemies, but it is not standing up for us in our own camp that we need to complain about. Benton wronged people and did not protect them or stand up and made it known what has been actually happening. Maybe he thinks these things aren't actually occuring to us or that all the assassination stuff, TSA stuff etc is just someone elses problem?

Benton, friend, our founders were a lot less polite. They tarred and feathered for things that would have occured a long time before this. You saw cheating, and not only didn't you send in lawyers, collect the information, but you about faced to the media. They don't have any obligation to be on the same side as us. You do.

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Well, as someone who was beat

Well, as someone who was beat up by cops and sued them for more than a quarter million dollars and sees unanswered calls for assassination of American citizens everyday, I think this is too meek.

We are doing the right thing. It is the peaceful way to settle with a political process, but the establishment is fighting it dirty every step of the way. Ron Paul's camp needs to step up and highlight some of the cheating with letters and complain. We are.

Yes, I expect the campaign to highlight the massive cheating at both of those conventions, not blame Ron Paul supporters. I'm tired of seeing eyewitness comment after eyewitness comment and the CAMPAIGN not commenting. I've experienced this first hand myself. It's time to speak up not cover up.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.