The Broken Window Strategy: Belief That Ron Paul Isn't Running Isn't Good!
Submitted by JoshArizona on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 11:18Many people today have tried to spin the false impression that Ron Paul is out of the race as a good thing, and a clever strategy for use as a Trojan Horse against Romney supporters.
Many are also assuming that the media announcing he had dropped out based off of the press release, is the result of some kind of smart political play by the campaign. It is not, it is an unintended consequence. If the campaign actually wanted people to think this, why would Jack Hunter, Doug Wead and now Jesse Benton himself be refuting this and trying so hard to undo the damage done by this falsehood?
While I understand where you guys are coming from, people not knowing that Ron is still running is not a positive thing.
Don't you all remember that just yesterday, we were complaining about the media ignoring Ron Paul and giving the impression that Romney was the only one left in the race?
If this is such a "good thing" shouldn't we be thanking the Mainstream Media for acting as if he isn't running?
If I wanted people to buy a product from me, would I want them to know I was open for business, or would I want to promote a rumor that said I was out of business?
If you don't see the obvious answer there, then please for the sake of future investors, do not start your own company.
This reminds me of the Broken Window Fallacy.
Those espousing this idea are forgetting the teachings of our good friend Frederic Bastiat and focusing on what is seen, and not what is unseen.
They see that it might make some Romney supporters let down their guard, but they aren't seeing all the Ron Paul supporters or possible future supporters that don't think he is running, and won't work as hard to get him elected if they weren't under that impression.
If this is such a good idea, then why did we even campaign in the first place.
Using this chain of assumptions, we shouldn't have campaigned at all.
This is a Logical Fallacy!
It is an absurdity!
Ignorance of Ron Paul's candidacy is detrimental, not beneficial!
This is a mistake and not some purposeful grand strategy, to spin it as such we are being dishonest with ourselves.
Yes, the campaign makes mistakes, it is not infallible, and those pointing out the mistakes are not evil doers.
The campaign is run by human beings and humans are not perfect, only the concept of Liberty is.
We need to make others aware of Dr. Paul's candidacy, not encourage ignorance of it.
Please comment and upvote, so that others may see this post, and get the message.
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IT is just that most people
IT is just that most people here are absolute children (either in age or mentality) and REFUSE to accept that the Ron Paul campaign really DOES know that Romney will cross 1144 in 9 days. So they have to invent super duper top secret reasons for the e-mails that came out last week.
The feel that the longer they can push reality away, the easier it will be totake later
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Yawn.
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Interesting observation
I read revolution pac's article on it saying that these announcements didn't actually announce anything new. Paul's strategy has been focusing on caucus states and delegates rather than primaries for the entire campaign! Makes me think this message was for the GOP and MSM afterall
Bump.
Josh is right.
Self-delusion = loss.
I have to laugh at the people who voted down my reply.
I guess you believe you can win via self-delusion.
LOL
This idea is insane!
Two days ago I had a conversation with someone on here, who admitted that a strategy like this would net us less donations, less supporters, and less delegates, then urged me to overlook these cons, for the pros.
What Pro's, a strategy like this would be 100 percent drawbacks, this kind of thinking is wholly irrational, and in no way grounded in reality.
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This most likely was a mistake BUT!!!
We dont know if it was a mistake or on purpose. YES, it can be either EVEN if they say it was a mistake.
Here's one fact I do know. Yesterday and Today the MSM has reported on Ron Paul. Thats Free TV time. Today I saw it on yahoos front page. Today I see some of the most traffic on youtube and on Ron Paul sites that I have ever seen as of late.
If you've taken a TV Media class in college, youd know that News can create itself and that this has been done before and again many many many many times ON PURPOSE. Some we may never know... but others have been caught in the past. The one thing I do know is that this has put alot of attention on Dr. Paul and inadvertently grabbed millions of viewers attention, and excited the base to talk about it in the last couple days and so on with family and friends im sure.
Do not reject reason.
Those of you accepting this fallacy and running with it are acting like a bunch of wild Keynesians.
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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard
If only to distil hope, dont shun those who follow passionately.
You and I will never know either way. They wont tell us and even if they stated it 1 million times that it was a mistake, we will never know.
We do know that Ron Pauls name has appeared 100s of times today in major media outlets and that the base is stirring.
Just take 2 seconds to connect the dots.
The campaign has been refuting the assertion that we are no longer in the race for two days, how does that fit in with the view that they want people to believe that assertion?
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JoshArizona did you see this?
http://www.dailypaul.com/234482/full-disclosure-a-question-t...
Were talking about one guy making a clerical mistake.
Doug Wead “We are not out, We are Up! The fight has just begun!" 5/14/2012
Its not over. If it was over, we would have quit months ago when the MSM STILL wasnt covering Paul. Your either trolling, apart of Obama's truth squad, or just trolling. So which is it?
How did you get that conclusion out of my response?
I said absolutely nothing about the race being over!
I'm saying that the campaign refuting the assertion that they are out of the race, disproves the theory that they intentionally wanted people to believe they were out of the race.
You should read more carefully.
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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard
Doug Wead's reply
To this emailed question I asked (below) Wead replied: "I am sorry, I am not sure I know the answer"
If your frustrated with the
If your frustrated with the campaign, learn from the mistakes. Take what you learned and do it right in your campaign for office.
http://www.dailypaul.com/233634/carry-on-the-revolution-run-...
Yes. And BECOME another Ron Paul yourself. . .
btw, plan on taking 40 years to build a nation-wide movement. Ideological paradigm-shift just might take that long or even longer.
We WEREN'T winning primaries anyway.
Whats the point in continuing? There is no way that Ron Paul can match the war chest that big firms and PACS have provided for Romney. Not to mention the millions worth of value in the MSM coverage.
Any effort we made would look feeble in comparison and it was a foregone conclusion that Ron Paul would not win the numbers beauty contests.
BUT since we are going under the assumption that ALL of the primaries are in essense beauty contests and that delegates are unbound at the convention - it DOESN'T MATTER if we win the primaries or not!
A good strategy has always been to "play toward your strengths". We excell at state conventions. So we are still playing toward them.
Mixed messages
There was a statement today, that said "barring something very unforseen, Mitt Romney will be nominee" and also "Mitt Romney is just 200 delegates away" -- which is essentially a completely unnecessary retreat and consession.
Why would the campaign try and pour cold water on it's own supporters like that.
Why would the campaign start making statements about just having a "respectful, quiet" convention (where apparently we are supposed to just passively except the fraud and corruption used to put Romney over the top).
It's pretty clear that the campaign still doesn't get it.
We're trying to win this thing.
But all they care about is just getting a little attention, and playing nice with criminals, and by their rules.
What next? Is Ron Paul going to start buying Bernanke breakfast too?
It's my belief that the campaign does get it.
This is obviously spin. Just read the politico article with Doug Wead's comments. The more I read it, the more obvious it becomes that all of it pure spin and that includes Jesse Benton's email.
Just Lemons.....
So make some lemonade. Forward a email about this asap. Sample:
Will the main stream media (MSM) ever get caught telling the truth?
The latest MSM lie is, "Ron Paul has quit the race". He has not. He's STILL IN TO WIN!
The good news is that we have a big enough base developed now to counter the MSM propaganda. People are now starting to see thru the lies and because of that it is backfiring on them. They're lies are now actually helping convert people to our side once they see how the MSM keeps rigging the game.
This lie will be found out by the masses too and we must use it to our advantage. Expose the MSM.
All EVIL is being done in the guise of "Some people being better than others." Because: Some ainmals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-
What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks
No hes not
Benton himself said Paul wasn't going to win.
I agree 100%
I think the announcement was a poor decision and it did send a clear message that this is over. I don't believe for a second that this was part of a delegate strategy.
What I think, and this is only my opinion...I think there is something in the works to put together a Romney/Rand ticket and RP doesn't want to upset that and felt it best to make this announcement now. This is just a gut feeling.
Because the MSM says so?
Give me a break dude. Wake up. There will be no Rand Ticket. Why would Ron Paul shit on his 30+ years of principles? Why would Rand kill any chance in hell to become president in 2016 by being Romneys butt buddy? If you've learned anything about being a Ron Paul supporter. Its Ron Paul or no one else... And that includes Rand when he steps up to the plate and represents the same values of his dad. One of the last true statesmen to live.
Just keep financially supporting the campaign,
and show up at State caucuses.
Liberty isn't given to us; it is taken by us, and if not, we will not have it.
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I disagree with your
I disagree with your assertions. I believe that if the RP campaign did not intend for people to react exactly the way they are, they would have never posted their announcement.
This move is clearly designed to preserve the integrity of the delegate strategy in light of debacles like the AZ and OK conventions. If RP is "out," the MSM goes back to sleep. If they aren't going to report the truth any way, why not use them to RP's advantage? Nothing good comes from negative press spun by MSM of RP supporters "hijacking" conventions and booing Romney children, even if its all lies. RP delegates and supporters understand that their man is still running, and they will continue to build on their delegate totals. If anything, all campaign resources focused on delegates in caucus and proportional-rep states is going to add even more to the delegate total. After all, why spend money in states where there is no opportunity to add to the delegate total?
Primary voters are sheep. Delegates are activists. Focus on the activists, the ones who will build the critical mass, and let the sheep continue to congratulate themselves, unaware of the fact that they know nothing.
What makes sense sounds like it makes sense.
You have set my heart at ease now. Thanks!
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Great Post
Just wanted you to know that.
Seen from Europe:
"The last competing candidate to Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, has finished his campaign" is the short message we got from our MSM.
Really ruined my day.
Ron Paul was right
I'm actually excited by the
I'm actually excited by the announcement yesterday, I always felt that throwing money at the primaries seemed like a big waste against Romney's millions and the ballot machines seemed iffy to me, plus the media is always an uphill battle
I am much more in favor of having officials from the campaign present at the delegate nominations to guard against the shenanigans the establishment tries to throw at them. To me, this is a very very good thing. I personally feel that this is RP's year to win the presidency. Several months ago, I felt like I was just being incredibly hopefully and felt deep down that perhaps he wouldn't actually win, but now I feel like he will after hearing about how many states he secured so many delegates in. This is exciting to me, I'm stoked! :)