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Can Ron Paul Still Win The Nomination ?

Fellow Ron Paul supporters I have question. Do you believe Ron can still win the Republican nomination after everything going on with the media and all? I understand this strategy and I am not talking it down. I know it is pointless to spend millions on ads for states that we will only get around 10-15 percent of the vote. But I just want to see if everyone thinks he can still pull out a win and become the nominee at the RNC.

Also, I know there is a lot of speculation going around about Ben Swann's newscast stating all delegates are unbound. Do you think this could have play in why the campaign may have did what the did when announcing the press statement?

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YES! RON PAUL CAN STILL WIN

5 members of the Romney family endorse Ron Paul. Go Ron Paul 2012! See you guys in Tampa

YES!

Provided all you hard working R3VOL who've sacrificed so much on behalf of Dr. Paul, the Message, and most important of all, for your own selves/future/progeny, absolutely IGNORE JB.

LOL

Hell, let's face it. It has ALWAYS been OUR campaign.

Do what you must.

Raise Hell.

Only our very survival depends on it.

Scorched Earth, if must. While we ALL respect Dr. Paul, and I hope y'all honor his wishes, mostly.D But, JB doesn't control anything.

Do what you must!

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Short answer

YES. I flat-out REFUSE to give in to the defeatist mentality.

Lots can happen before Tampa

We have the structure in place now to "bail out" the Republican Party after Obama pummels Romney for the next 3 months until it becomes obvious that nominating him is just token gesture to put up a candidate and hope for better in 4 years. At that point the delegates will be saying "I wish we would have seen this back in February when the primaries were held, what can we do?" Then those hundreds of well-trained, helpful (want some pizza?) delegates will say: "Why don't we derail Obama by switching candidates on him? This is our party and we have been entrusted to win the nomination by our constituencies!"

Then we will be seen in a more realistic light. As long as they are watching their backs we can't help them. Let them see what they are really up against and work together to get this country back.

YES

absolutely! When I've said "I'm in it to win it," I meant it!

Yes

Just keep working the delegates. Advertise stretegically where and when we can get the most benefit. We have limited resources, so frugality, not profligacy, must be the order of the day.

Yes!

We still have California and Texas.

California is not winner-take-all, it is winner-take-all by congressional district. The top vote-getting in the district gets to name the delegates he wants--no voting on who they are. Each district is worth 3 delegates.

We have some active volunteers in Los Angeles and elsewhere. They are calling to get out the vote and you can help.

It will be a very low voter turn-out.

Additionally, the delegates who have been chosen already can be won over. This is why we have to be nice to them and not be jerks.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Yes he CAN!

After all I have put into Ron Paul, mind, heart, money, love, I will NOT and can NOT wavier! After all I have seen from other true Ron Paul AMERICAN patriot's, I can NOT and will NOT waiver. These naysayer's and doubters are merely weak minded failures. I feel for their family's and co-worker's, to feel so strong for a real presidential candidate and then give up? Shows your character or lack there of!

There is to many freedom lovers to say this is over! And if by chance Ron doesn't make it. There is no doubt in my mind the real revolution begins!! And I cant wait, its going to be an all out war! It will be time to start running for office in your neck of the woods, man or woman up!! I have never felt so strong about a group of people I have never met in entire life. I truly love you ALL!! Ill see you all at Tampa!

I say our chances are slim,

but yes, there's still a possibility of winning.

People HAVE been too optimistic about rule 38 and abstaining. From what I understand, abstaining lets you run the risk of being replaced by the alternates. I have been hearing conflicting reports about this. Some say that you cannot be replaced by the alternates, as long as you are still present. I'm not sure which side is correct, but Politico and the folks over at Romney central seems to believe that you'll get replaced by the alternates.

As for rule 38, the Romney central folks also believe that we won't be able to apply this rule. From what I've seen from Benn Swann, we have a good chance regarding this. My only fear is if we can defend this rule in court. The RNC is a private organization, so they can pretty much decide their own rules. My fear is that such organizations may be allowed to disregard their own rules in court, because they are private. If someone has some experience concerning this, I would be much obliged.

So, we do have a chance, but people have been far too prone to think optimistically about the above. Better to assume the worst and plan for that. THAT'S how you maximize your chances. If we play our cards right, we might still win it, even if we cannot fully make use of abstaining and rule 38. But we MUST have countermeasures in case we can't make use of it.

On your note about "deciding their own rules..."

The Convention delegates decide the rules, not the Republican National Committee. So if the delegates allow abstentions, then so be it. No court would be likely to stand in their way.

yes I will only vote for Ron Paul.

yes
grant

tasmlab's picture

How about the 'get lucky' approach?

Perhaps Romney will have a minor stroke that takes a year or so to regain his voice.

Or Monica Lewinski steps up and gives him a big Bill Clinton style BJ.

Or the public finds out that he is secretly a mormon and freaks out (because they don't really know what a Mormon is, but we're properly xenophobic about anything that sounds different).

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Hmmmm

Nice! I almost think I should pray for it.

Ron brought the Liberty movement together, Rand is expanding the crap out of it! :)

Yes we can win

which is why Jessie Benton's letter is so off! He may not believe it but I know we can - WE HAVE TO - our freedom, our future depends on it.

slm

exactly! Jessie's memo = BUZZ KILL

I still believe that Ron Paul could be nominated from the floor. We all know a very deep base of republicans DO NOT LIKE Romney and are looking for the "anti-Romney".

YES!

He can win a couple of different ways. You are aware of Rule 38 by now. However, by the time we get to the RNC they will probably contradict themselves and come up with a way to discredit anyone voting that way. Rule 38 gives Ron the best chance to win and block Mitt Romney. The other scenario is Rule 38 is abolished, and all delegates are bound. They can still abstain and all the delegates the grassroots are amassing should be enough to deny Romney the nomination. If Romney IS denied the nod, then everyone knows it will be a Paul Nomination on the second ballot.

Yes he can!
You never know how things are going to go with the power the establishment has. The more desperate they seem, more people are to understand what the grassroots is doing is working.
Two things to worry about:
will they discredit Paul's Strategy?
will a reason come about to suspend the election?

Ron brought the Liberty movement together, Rand is expanding the crap out of it! :)

We also have a RNC lawyer

saying that the delegates are free agents who can cast their delegate vote for anyone they want, they are NOT bound.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

I say we ignore Jesse and the campaign and fight on..

Keep working our strategy.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

What a "cluster f*ck!"

Never thought that I would see the day that so many long time supporters of Ron's would fall apart. Yes, there is confusion but, I'm not throwing in the towel. Four more years of Obummer, and I predict there will be civil war in this country. The people have had enough and the PTB don't give a sh*t what we want.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
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sharkhearted's picture

Absolutely...

I ain't throwing in the towel either!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Yes! Now that REAL VICTORY is possible and within site,....

That's why Jesse is issuing his capitulation emails yesterday and today.

Now that we CAN WIN, that's why Jesse had to throw in the towel to the RNC and Romney. He was triggered to now cut the National Delegates we have and the 5 state delegations where we have majorities off at the knees.

The RNC will never let RP win. Jesse is acting as their agent, advertently or inadvertently he's doing their bidding.

There's nothing worse than a cheap whore. I hope he at least got something from the RNC for doing their bidding. Knowing him, he probably sold out for very little or zero.

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I agree...with the original poster of this forum here...

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Absolutely!

It's all in God's Almighty hand!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

YES GOD CAN!

... And WE CAN through His strength ELECT DR. RON PAUL as President of the United States of America!

Ron Paul 2012
The Champion of the Constitution

At the cross Jesus Christ defeated sin, death, hell, and the new world order.
C’mon boys, let’s take the plunder!