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Jesse, Please Just Shut Up

This is NOT a bag on the campaign.

This is just a request for Jesse to keep his big mouth SHUT.

This is OUR campaign. THOUSANDS of Ron Paul supporters have paid hundreds of dollars to attend state conventions, have faced and battled evil, cheating and lying in its face and perservered.

If it's true that RP doesn't want to win, that's fine, or if you can't spend any more money, that's fine.

BUT YOU NEED TO RESPECT THE EFFORT AND RESOURCES WE HAVE PUT OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN'S BEHALF TO WIN.

If you would please JUST SHUT UP and let us do our jobs, everything would be fine.

THERE WAS NO GOOD REASON FOR THE ANNOUNCEMENTS OF THE PAST TWO DAYS.

All you have done is cut the legs out from your MOST DEDICATED ACTIVISTS, not the wild hair libertarians, but the quiet majority who have slogged it out the entire time, become state delegates and have gone or are going to conventions TO WIN. And we have been winning.

Now that REAL PROGRESS IS IN SIGHT, you issue messages that make it AS HARD AS POSSIBLE to conclude the processes underway already in AZ, OK, LA, SD, TX, and other states?

Why not just tell the RP activists who are state delegates there to pack it in?

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU DID!

All you had to say was NOTHING.

You have shown the ULTIMATE in disrepect for those who have sacrificed the MOST.

You should be ASHAMED of yourself.

And you call yourself a "Chief Strategist"? If your Chief Strategy is to LOSE and anger your MOST DEDICATED supporters in the process, then you have accomplished your goal.

Thanks for nothing! Go join your buddy who also can't keep his mouth shut at the appropriate times, Adam Kokesh. Go party it up! MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, JESSE.




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Benton deserves this 100%

"Why in the world did Jesse say these words in an email for the whole world to see?"

That's the question I can't get my head around. To be kind, all I can say is: Benton is an amateur.

He is running for president

He is running for president and take over the GOP. You guys should listen more careful. Ron Paul has never been a "raw raw, I'm going to win" type of person - what's new?

Let's look at the words he has always used "unforseen event" ... "you never know, someone could stumble" ... "you don't know what will happen" ... "let's wait until we count the votes". You see, with an attitude to truley be "in it to the end" means you will keep fighting until all is lost or you win, even if it looks like all the odds are against you and it is impossible to win.

I think Ron Paul is putting alot of trust in his supporters telling the truth about the chances of winning and still expecting us to keep fighting. It's pretty scarry being treated like a grown-up isn't it. :)

Jesse 'et al' worked from the inside to derail the campaign

From the first negative ad I knew this to be a fact! But who is manipulating Jesse ....

Someone is using his immaturity to their own ends.. Where is Mr. Fein in all this?

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King Jr.

CORRECT!!

My opinion too. WHAT? No Parliamentarian? No lawyer? The one state paid for their own Parliamentarian to be there - but then they had the Chairman arrested outside.

Like you, I was cheering at my computer! My eyes were tearing up when I watched the "Pizza Shout Out" - when those RP delegate Patriots were chanting to the 1700 people they knew were watching - and thanking them for sending them pizza.

I mean, this is the way it's supposed to be! Supporting each other and lifting each other up, and moving like a wave across this country. I was amazed watching it happen.

WHAT HAPPENED TO NOT STOPPING AN IDEA WHOSE TIME HAS COME?!! It's HERE! So. . .Jesse stops it?

Get Jesse out of the way - go third party. . . George Washington didn't want to be president either. The people put him there. We the people, we can do the same - let's do it.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. ~Thomas Jefferson

“It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie...the greatest enemy of the State.” ~Joseph Goebbels

Amen

And surround our "George Washington" with enlightened men and women who have paid the Deep Heart Price. Chuck Baldwin, Judge Napolitano, Marshal Foster, and Alex Jones come to mind.... the spirit of Ron Paul beats deeply within their hearts. Step forward in faith before your voices are silenced!

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King Jr.

Why are you spreading the MSM

Why are you spreading the MSM lies? Jessie didn't stop anything.

Obviously Ron Paul knows exactly what is going on . . . he is putting a lot of trust in his supporters telling the truth about the chances of winning and still expecting you to keep fighting to the - end until all is lost or we win.

This is typical of Ron Paul ... he treats us like a grown-up, but it looks like some of you can't handle it.

Ron Paul has to last until the end, because like he said many times "you never know, someone might stumble" and like Jessie said "some unforseen event". Know your situation and then fight hard and make sure you have the resources to continue to the end.

Jeff65 - YOU are the liar

Yeh, and I'm promoting RON PAUL to the last. I am NOT promoting the power-mongering talking head who is helping to undermine Ron Paul's whole campaign.

You, Jeff, need to do some homework before you start lobbing accusations. Since you leveled your accusations against me - I can call you a liar - because I KNOW you are.

Read this, which is at the head of the article of THE man who is co-opting Ron Paul's campaign. . .you'll probably recognize yourself. . .

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” - Marcus Tullius Cicero

READ! http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2011/08/30/the-greatest-plot...
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110823006296/en

That's NOT the MSM, Jeff - that's Ron Paul's "inner circle". This traitor is orchestrating the destruction from within. E D U C A T E yourself! http://www.p2012.org/candidates/paulorg.html

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. ~Thomas Jefferson

“It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie...the greatest enemy of the State.” ~Joseph Goebbels

Wow! Nice litle rant there,

Wow! Nice litle rant there, but you didn't address what I was lying about. Tell me where Jessie said anything was stopped. You just did the same sort of crap on me as you did with Jessie.

Not taking sides

here but I would still like to have an answer to the "Romney needs 200 delegates to wrap this up" deal. As a delegate I can tell you that Romney needs way more than 200. That is the one thing that is throwing me.

Since I already gave my

Since I already gave my answer in your other same query, I would like to add that I find myself baffled to see such opposite interpretations coming from Jessie's statements. I won't make any comments on what I think of Remenent's rants, other than I may have been too harsh calling him and others a lier, since I have found others much more respectable than him saying the same thing.

If you have any insites on why someone would say Jessie has stopped the race, when I say it is clear they are trying harder, then I would like to hear what you have to say.

So Dense You Bend Light?

I guess I have to spell it out for you. . .

"Why are you spreading the MSM lies? Jessie didn't stop anything."

That's your lie - in regard to my comments. I don't spread lies. . .and I don't cotton to your accusing me of spreading lies.

Do tell - what "MSM lies" am I spreading?

Did you read what I posted, re: Fein? Or are you just a hypercritical shill who jumps to accuse those who get too close to the truth? At least I back up with I say - and site sources. How about you do the same.

Oh, and Re: Jesse: http://www.policymic.com/articles/8435/will-ron-paul-fire-je...

You're starting to sound like these new people who are lobbing accusations at Ron Paul, re: flights - and when Ron Paul's people ask for the proof - they have yet to give it to them. (Re: http://www.rollcall.com/issues/57_135/Nonprofit_Prods_Ron_Pa...)

THIS, by a disgruntled ex-employee of Ron Paul's. Are you too a disgruntled ex-employee, Jeff?

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. ~Thomas Jefferson

“It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie...the greatest enemy of the State.” ~Joseph Goebbels

I must be dense. Nice links

I must be dense. Nice links you sent. Interesting, but has nothing to do with what I said or asked. You still didn't tell me what I lied about. You just quoted my question which you still didn't answer.

In your eyes is a question the same as a lie?

If your saying that you are a disgruntled employee of Ron Paul's, then I understand why the crazed rants. It is really hard to tell what you are trying to get at . . . it's like you barfed all over the page.

Ron Paul is fallable

George Washington trusted Benedict Arnold.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King Jr.

2016 isn't too late.

It depends on whether or not the torch is passed to Rand.

I agree with most of your other comments. This is a disaster. I can hardly bear to read the sugar-coating being dispensed by some of the faithful that "it's a strategy to make the enemy overconfident," etc.

Ron Paul is going to have to remove Benton from the spotlight and reassure his own movement, and even if he does...it doesn't look good.

SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States

He didn't get the memo

He keeps on talking. Yep, this time he gave a conference call today :-(

It only seems to be getting worse and worse.

Again, I refer back to my first advice.

Be QUIET and let us carry the ball. We are doing just fine. Or WERE up until Monday.

Thank you very much.

dude we weren't doing just fine

did you not see what happened in AZ and OK? Why have we not heard official results? The establishment can't fear us, because if they do the game is up.

And these campaign communiciations helped that situation HOW?

Please clarify. Thanks.

Otherwise, you've made my point FOR me.

False sense of security

The RP Campaign wants to do everything it can to get the RNC to recognize our delegates. If I were a Romney loving status quo freak, I would read this and think "YES, WE'VE GOT THIS LOCKED UP!"

What is more likely:

RP supporters giving up, or romney supporters underestimating us?

I dont think you've been to a state convention this year...

...have you?

It doesn't matter if we win delegates

If the RNC plays dirty tricks and doesn't recognize them

So you're saying....

...that the way our delegates would be recognized was only if the campaign issued the press releases yesterday and today?

That's bizarre to say the least.

Move this post to the De-activism. forum

Or maybe the cry-room.

Free includes debt-free!

Hey, yeah

For the first time ever on DP, we need a new cry-room category.

Really?

Do you honestly think that the campaign wouldn't have preferred to do nothing? You think they WANTED to send out those emails? It's quite obvious that our delegate wins were scaring the establishment Romney goons. Unfortunately those goons are in major power positions of the GOP and RNC. No promises were made in that email. They WANTED that email to seem like they were resigned to defeat. The campaign puts its faith in US!! They know that we will continue on.

They sent these emails out because they felt they NEEDED to go out. At this juncture itis necessary to appear as a lame duck, a ship without rudder. The establishment cannot fear us or they will do everything to keep Paul from even attending the Convention.

Do you really think that the Ron Paul campaign believes that Romney has that many delegates???? Of course not, because he DOESN'T--yet. That is a fact. Come August they will forever refer to Ron Paul as the Trojan Horse.

I hope you're right

I hope you're right - more than you can know.

I SECOND THE MOTION.

Jessie. Dude. Bro. Homes. Ese. With all the respect that Obama gives Joe Biden.

Shut up, mmkay? Thanks.
I personally recommend stepping down, let someone handle your title on a temp basis. You can be Director of get a massage and SPA or something. You know your probably very fatigued with all the campaigning. It happens to all of us. Just let someone take the wheel right now and get some much needed rest.

Seriously. Get the hint. Don't make me tell EVERYONE and their mothers what I'm really thinking.

I concur

Even if they don't have the money to mount big campaigns in the primary states why announce it to the world? There is simply no reason to do so. I for one as a delegate to the state convention here in WA am disappointed by the national campaigns latest announcement's. The national campaign never did much campaigning in primary states anyway it's all about the grassroots, the least they could do is keep their mouth shut and let the grassroots continue to do the ground work. It's going to be a lot harder convincing people to get involved to go to the polls for Ron Paul in California and elsewhere now that the media is trumpeting "Ron Paul dropped out".

There's a thing called fiscal responsibility

I believe RP felt he was obliged to tell his supporters what is happening with their funds. It's all about transparency.

Nope. Thinkin Not

Silence is golden - in many situations.

Leaving well enough alone - is terrific.

No harm would have been done by being quiet and rolling into Tampa with the victorious warrior delegates.

Jesse should have zipped his lip, shut his trap, ticked the lock, ET cetera. He's out of line.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. ~Thomas Jefferson

“It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie...the greatest enemy of the State.” ~Joseph Goebbels