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Full Audio of Jesse Benton Conference Call With The Media - 5/15/2012

http://youtu.be/DJdKINAzN4M

Larry Sinclair thought it would be nice to get the entire call out to the grassroots without a media filter, thank you Mr. Sinclair and Sinclair News!

Earlier, thread with partial recording.



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Jesse and the campaign are in a hard place

First thing to remember is that Ron Paul chose to run as a Republican and stay within the Republican party. Therefore he chose to cooperate with the Republican Party. I don't think Jesse or Ron has a choice to do conduct business any other way if they want to have continued success in the party and continue changing the party from within.

It's clearly evident with the recent messages that Ron Paul's overlying goal is to take over the Republican Party and change it back to how it used to be, ie. the Robert Taft Republican ways. If you do not want to co-opt and peacefully change the Republican Party (example Iowa and Alaska), I think you will be disappointed in the end.

I want to emphasize that Ron Paul always had a choice to burn his bridges and go third party but he did not. This tells me a lot about how he wants to go about things in the future.

"Quod scripsi scripsi."

Sold Out

I think Benton may have sold us out to get Rand a VP nod. Maybe the Romney camp saw the writing on the wall after our success in the state conventions and pulled this one to stop us. Sadly, someone took the bait.

Benton.....They got to you

Benton.....They got to you didn't they??

Ron Paul 2012

True Story

I remember this time we were playing football, we started doing pretty good but the other team had paid the ref. Anyway our captain walked off the field in resignation. The other team claimed victory and walked off the field to get ready for the final. But there was still 20 minutes on the clock and we suddenly had no opposition. Even without our captain we won, because the ref was powerless to stop us from that point.

We didn't need our captain because WE KNEW HOW TO SCORE WITHOUT HIM, he was our inspirational figurehead only. Our captain seemed to be a little smarter than we knew. He had to bank on us playing on without him though.

Anyway what's all this about some Jessie guy... Who is he? What does he mean to you?

Ask not what your Paul can do for you, but what you can do for your country - Anon.

Like it or not we are not

Like it or not we are not privy to the strategies of the campaign. Did Ali tell his fans not to worry when he seemingly coward on the ropes? Does your favorite sports team tell the press the star player is questionable for the big game, then email you saying he's fine? Granted Benton has not appeared to be stellar in his role this cycle, but the strategy the campaign put in place appears to be working VERY well. A couple conventions have fallen through the cracks, but overall I must admit I am pleased with how we have performed. I didn't hear any mention of suspending the campaign, besides, it's late in the game to start benching players. Suck it up and push forward until you hear the whistle!

Goodbye fellow Liberty Lovers

I am reposting a comment once made here on the Daily Paul, after a GOP debate in January:

I wish Ron Paul Said: "My vision for America: The Statue of Liberty. It's not the 'Statue of Equality' or the 'Statue of Safety'. We don't call that Bell in Philadelphia the 'Bail-out Bell'. I see an America that rediscovers what TRULY made her exceptional: the idea that a person has the moral right to define the meaning and purpose of his own life, and should be free to pursue it. I see an America where the government's sole purpose and authority is to defend our Rights and our Liberty. I envision an America where her President takes the Oath to defend the Constitution seriously. It can happen... if we follow the philosophy of our Founders and the Constitution. When I'm President I'll help make that vision a reality." This would be inspiring, and very defendable as "realistic": why HAVE a Constitution if it is "unrealistic" to obey it? Why take the Oath if it is unrealistic? Why recite the Pledge if having the Limited Government Republic is not possible? Fact is, the things ARE doable, and the American People are waking up to it.

Mit Romney is every bit the Fascist that Mr Obama is, and Since the campaign is no longer interested in fighting for a Ron Paul Presidency, I am no longer interested in supporting the Campaign financially, or by active involvement. I will continue to support the Delegates I have already committed to, and continue to support Dr Paul. A campaign to make noise at the convention and then support Mitt Romney is NOT what I signed up for. To all the many Daily Paul fans and to all of the Ron Paul supporters who understand the Philosophy of Liberty and the moral Role of government (the AMERICAN FOUNDING ideas) I wish you well. Until next time, (if ever there IS one)
Goodbye All

Your feeling is perfectly understandable.

Who ever heard of a campaign chairman giving a concession speech to the press months before the convention, adding that he intends to continue the campaign only for the sake of influencing the platform, reforming the Republican Party (!), or some other fantasy? But this may be the one chance liberty has in our lifetimes, and I feel we can carry this effort on and possibly win without the help or encouragement of Mr. Benton. Please reconsider and get back to work for victory in August.

Don't be foolish

the Jesse Benton conference call was not meant for us!

I have posted earlier on this:

http://www.dailypaul.com/233848/dr-ron-paul-you-have-an-emer...

Surviving the killing fields of Minnesota

Todays brainwashing: GMO's are safe

I agree

This was not a call designed for us....it is a strategy. It's so good by the way it even has some of us fooled.lol

sorry we need to hear it from the man himself

is the track race over as he has repeatedly said? Is he running for President still?

The best way to "influence" is to become President! Is this option done?

As far as respect, sorry there is none for anyone else, i might just vote for Gary Johnson.

How can we talk about influence someone who is actually always changing his mind. I done see respect anywhere, not sure what Mr. Benton is speaking of.

How deep the rabbithole goes ?

The freedom that Ron Paul wants to establish, the vested powers that are against it are not only seated in the US of A. There are other foreign interest that are much more powerfull, that are against this non-slavery movement. Does Ron Paul and his staff really know how deep the rabbithole goes? Now and again in everybodies life one needs to accept facts that one would never have thought of as possible, in other words: these facts are just blowing your mind, they knock you down. But you stand up again and dust of your coat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvKB3fAAr_Y
http://www.michaeltellinger.com/index.php

"And remember, a half-truth is far more dangerous then a complete lie, because the complete lie is going to be discovered sooner or later - just a little intelligence is needed. But the half-truth is very dangerous, even intelligent people, very intellige

Be Prepared!

This statement is very unsettling to all of us who dream of an America we can be proud of again, but I caution all of you, my fellow freedom fighters not to let anger, and disappointment pollute your hearts. Instead I say be prepared! With this statement Ron Paul will now get the most media attention he has gotten since the beginning. The effect will be new people hearing his name for the first time, they will be here, they will be on facebook, they will be on twitter, they will be asking questions. Please do not get overzealous and reprimand them for asking in past tense "what did RP stand for?" They are ignorant, but can be won over. In my opinion what has happened in this campaign is that Dr Paul has realised the brush fire he started is now raging out of his control, and it seems he is more than happy to turn over the reigns of fanning it to us. Let us not disappoint him, listen to what Jesse says we must conduct ourselves as if we are running in this race. We can, and will be the change we so desperately need, Romney has never once even made a legitimate promise to his people, and they know it. I've been on his FB page begging one of his blind flock to show me the light, and they are dumbfounded, and unresponsive aside from insults. That leads me to believe that when they no longer see us as opposition some of them may start asking questions as well....oblige them kindly in an unopposing manner, speak of party unity and beating Obama (they love that one), and when the convention comes we may have won some of them as well. WE know this is not the end of the fight, and that should be our secret, give them no reason to fight us any longer- the removal of opposition= a victory! Sorry so long winded, I just felt the need to get this across.

sincerely,
Mike G.

Don't worry. When Obama gets

Don't worry. When Obama gets reelected the GOP establishment will go into full breakdown mode. There are no words to describe how incredibly stupid these people are.

There's a quote someone mentioned earlier, something to the effect,.... you can vote tyranny in, but you can never vote it out... that will take another act all together.

All the negative comments and

All the negative comments and second guessing is ridiculous. What good is that doing? It isn't helping the campaign, that's for sure. None of us know what is going on.

I have a feeling Jesse is

I have a feeling Jesse is willing sending himself to slaughter. He is purposely taking the heat for any negativity in this campaign. Imagine if Ron came out saying "Sorry, we can't win but we can still change the party." How much flack would all you give him? How many supporters would we lose? How many would never care about being active in politics again?

The truth is Ron is the forefront of this movement and any negativity towards him hurts the movement more so then the campaign and anything else regarding the Revolution. If the campaign does fail it can't be put on Ron because that will be a significant draw back for the Revolution and many would be discouraged from continuing on. Ron has given us direction and without him many would be confused on what direction to take from here and who to trust to continue on after he is done.

I don't Jesse enough to say he's purposely trying to destroy the campaign. (I seriously doubt it though) I think, more logically, that this has been a planned route to take. It is much more intelligent to put of a scape goat then it is to let us all question our leader and start fighting amongst ourselves.

This is how I see recent events and no matter what happened with this campaign or the next we have to continue on. It was never about just this one election or the next 5, it's about a continual desire to protect liberty and restore the republic. Without dedicated and continual protection liberty can never survive. This is what this movement is about.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

Poker is like politics

It is better the lull the GOP and Romney to sleep with “ you've got all sewed up” than to boast of the positive that is to come. I guess most here don't understand how to play poker.

Why is Jesse saying that the

Why is Jesse saying that the campaign will not support collecting delegates at the MICHIGAN STATE CONVENTION???? I read the Detroit Free Press article.

What is the reason for this?

Its too late

Even if Ron Paul announced that he dropped out we would still go to the convention. Even if we had to go as Romney Delegates.

Sorry GOP their nothing you can do now... Womp womp womp.......

"If you think we can't change the world, it just means you're not one of those that will"

Jacque Fresco

Right

You're right.

I don't know what the

I don't know what the campaign is doing as I am not part of it. Obviously they have to focus their resources how they see fit. They may not have the resources to cover both state. It's just that official campaign isn't putting resources there, but supporters will be there to win. We certainly didn't get much money. When Ron was asking for 650k, we pulled in like 30k because everyone was waiting for some money bomb or something instead of giving what they could right away. It's silly to wait to donate. Donate early and often.

Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto. - T. Jefferson rЭVO˩ution

"Everyone wants to live at the expense of the state. They forget that the state wants to live at the expense of everyone.” - BASTIAT

SCREW JESSE BENTON AND BEND

SCREW JESSE BENTON AND BEND OVER TO MITT ROMNEY!!!!

LET'S FIGHT IN EVERY STATE CONVENTION. THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND WE THE FUTURE SET THE RULES.....

LETS TAKE THE REVOLUTION TO TAMPA..

Poker

When your playing poker you have a better change of winning if you don't tell, in one way or another, the other players what you have in your hand.

So let me get this straight...

We lose to win? LOL Just like I said in another thread, it is like the three stooges. LOL

I really do hope things get better at Tampa. LOL

I will NOT vote for Mitt Romney, Jesse...

respect shown to me or not.

Truth hurts

I'm a longtime Paul supporter. 1988. 2008. If there is one thing Ron Paul ALWAYS does is he tells the truth. The truth is that he does not have the resources to go head to head with Romney in the remaining primary states. He called for funds, and his supporters had a hard time coughing up $1.5 million. (Obama collected 10 times that amount at Cooney's party last weekend)

Without the resources, he would disappear from the political arena entirely (as if he were not already blacked out) and the press would be sure to note his absence. The campaign would dwindle to nothing.

Instead, Ron has his campaign manager tell us the truth: Unlikely to win (though crazier things have happened) but in a position to have a major influence on the Republican Party (take it over?). He will continue to campaign to extend his influence...and see where the chips may fall.

Romney can't win without us. He knows that. Ron knows that. No one controls the R3volution that Ron created. Ron and Mitt know that. Ron can't bargain us away like poker chips...we won't be traded. Romney knows that. So does Ron. In a game of chess, this would be "check." Your move, Mitt.

Jesse said nothing wrong in the conference call. He told the truth. We need to wrap our brains around the truth...and move forward.

this is his ticket into the convention

talking to the GOP/Romney crowd in this way is likely the only way to get Dr. Paul into the convention in August. sure, we could nominate him in absentia with 5 state delegations, but with the GOP/Romney crowd as the gate keepers, Ron has to play nice with them to get into the door. He is saying that we should keep being delegates, because he wants us inside with him.

I guarantee you that if he didn't go in this direction, no matter how many delegations we controlled, the organizers of the event would not be letting Dr. Paul into the convention. stay strong, keep working towards getting delegates and taking over the GOP.

Jesse Benton

should stop installing confusion in people's mind.
Sometimes I really wonder who he's working for.
Moreover I think this statement, if ever that was the case, should be made by Ron Paul and not by Benton

'Being a patriot is when one loves his country. Being a nationalist is when one hates the countries of others'

Charles De Gaulle

I don't understand how this

I don't understand how this thread doesn't have 200 PLUS VOTES.

This conference call by Benton is the obituary of the campaign.

Unbelievable, still in shock from this.

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