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If we end up not being able to win , i still think it will be worth it to wreck the convention

The only way a romney presidency would be viable for me is if.

1. day 1 out of afghanistan 100% and pull 30% of our non essential military bases from around the world.

2. Full audit of the fed and as a result the end of the federal reserve system.

But since that will never happen under neoconmy. I think our best bet is to blow the lid off of all the rampant voter fraud , lies , deciet , and disgusting behavior that has happened during the election. I propose we gather resources , videos , emails ect as proof of the alegations. Expose the republican party for what it is , and try to get the american people at large thinking about their "favorite" political parties.

This will be the last world stage ron paul and his supporters will likely have , so i think we should make it count.

liberty or death

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Romney will not be heard

Romney said he would "strengthen" the Patriot Act.
What does that mean?
This Neo-con shall not be heard in Tampa, especially with hundreds of delegates who do not support him.
He should be "blacked out" and it should not matter how the MSM portrays it...
How can they spin a total "black out" if Romney's voice isn't heard in Tampa?

"To sin by silence when one should protest make cowards of men"
Abraham Lincoln

Why?

They are all big-gov't protectionists of the gov't 9/11 lie.

JUST LIKE YOU ARE.

you are a retard

you are a retard congratulations , 911 wasnt a conspiracy , stop listening to brain diarrhea spewing assholes like alex jones who does nothing but lie and make shit up on a daily basis and makes millions off your knee jerk desire to hate government so much to think they would orchestrate the death of thousands of americans and attack their own military complexes just to go to war with a country made out of dirt and mountain goats.

seriously consider some medication to keep your autism away

Aren't u sweet?

take your vaccine, the government love you. You're special and they want to keep you safe.

The retard

would be YOU.

AND, you're a neocon troll too.

1. NO YOU 2. seriously if i

1. NO YOU

2. seriously if i was some sort of internet secret agent to troll people on this forum i would have been banned the day i signed up. Check my post history , just because im not a braindead anti-gullible gullible idiot who thinks 911 was a conspiracy doesnt mean im a neocon. It just means that i actually look at both sides of the argument instead of intrusting my opinion on assholes like alex jones who has less credibility than bill oreily.

common sense you cannot learn , so im not going to try to tell you to fix yourself because you probly cant. so the best advice i can give you is that if you sit in a bathtub and submerge a toaster connected to an electical outlet (be sure to remove the GFSI) you open a portal to heaven and can visit all your dead relatives. BUT DONT JUST TRUST ME , THIS IS THE INFO THE GOVERNMENT DOESNT WANT YOU TO HEAR ABOUT

I have checked you posting history, Mr Newbie.

And you SHOULD have been banned already.
This site has been negligent in allowing destructive trolls to propagate recently.
You're one of them.
Know how I can tell? Just go to any neocon site(I'm sure you do), and they all say just the same virulent types of comments about killing, that you just wrote.
It's all over your posting.
You're just a filthy neocon who's in here to stir up trouble.

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"Check my post history , just because im not a braindead anti-gullible gullible idiot who thinks 911 was a conspiracy doesnt mean im a neocon"

True, but the fact that you're calling other people 'retard' and resorting to personal attacks isn't helping your case at all. In fact, that's very often a sign that one is scared of having an actual debate.

"It just means that i actually look at both sides of the argument instead of intrusting my opinion on assholes like alex jones who has less credibility than bill oreily."

I'll just say that this "they hate us for our freedom" spiel is a load of BS, and anyone who can't see that at this point simply doesn't want to see it. Hopefully you at least realize this much.

In regards to a government attacking its own people under a false flag; it's not as if this sort of thing is without precedent...

Also, I may not be a fan of AJ because he has a tendency to talk out of both sides of his mouth (as well as a certain other orifice), but yeah, I'd trust him over O'Reilly any day...though frankly that's not saying much.

But like I said, if you feel the need to resort to personal attacks, then that only shows me how weak your positions are. Have fun getting owned by BigT, though.

A signature used to be here!

We couldn't get

Paul elected last time no matter how hard we tried. What we did do in N.H. though is elect 24 ron pauler's to our state legislature and they have made a difference. It doesn't matter what party as long as we stay involved and get liberty minded people in at all levels of government. Gop/dem/Lib etc. etc.

As a woman I hate to see violence as much as Paul does and pray it never comes to that. We need to work with what we have and make the very best of it. It is not going to happen over night unfortunately as much as I wish it could. I feel that wrecking the Convention just doesn't seem to accomplish much except give us a bad name.

I will probably get voted down for this but it has bothered me for a long time so I have said it.

Thank you Ron Paul for the wonderful man that you are and the example that you have made all over the world. May we all be Ron Paul.

The violent action was a Romney supporter punching a RP

supporter in the back. Get it? Her back was turned, she wasn't being violent.

I know that

I was not talking about that. I was talking about the convention in Tampa.
The whole 2 party system stinks and we need to change it but not by reactions but action.

HER back?

...ah yea, that's some nice family values there Mitt.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Trying to bring down the GOP

Trying to bring down the GOP might not be the best idea:

http://www.dailypaul.com/233778/ron-pauls-legacy

what legacy will there be? a

what legacy will there be? a small internet following that knows about what really went down in 2012?

You dont get it yet. The second ron paul is gone our whole movement crumbles. We have no future without the doctor because there are no politicians alive who have the balls to keep integrity.

When ron paul is gone the media at large wins and they will be free to lie and buy elections for the forseeable future.

we need to expose what happened this year on a grand stage. we need to show the american public that their votes dont matter anymore.

Not sure how you figure the

Not sure how you figure the whole movement will crumble if he's not elected. How do you think we got where we are now? Its because of those who kept fighting after he lost in 2008. Its that continued effort that has grown the movement to where it is today. We kept fighting and some of us even got elected to Govt offices. We are doing that tenfold this time around.

Nothing can stop an idea whose time has come . .. not even your negativity.

Have a blessed day!

Blessings )o(

You sound like a

conspiracy theorist...

Wrong script?

Hardly a small internet

Hardly a small internet falling. I get stopped by people all the time in the streets that want to talk about Ron Paul.

Wear your hat and t-shirts sometime.

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No...

"Wrecking" the convention should not be our goal. We should use the rules at the convention to their limit to take everything we can, but creating chaos will just make us look bad, for no appreciable gain.

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

so thats it? just try to

so thats it? just try to "grab everything we can" when there is no future of a ron paul presidency anyway? No viable heir to his legacy?

i say we leave a lasting impression instead of dying out like a waxless candle.

Wrong on two counts

1) Who said we're dying? A loss in the GOP primary does NOT mean the end of this movement, not even close. Start to wrap your brain around that fact.

2) How does "going out with a bang" (meaning a big circus that makes the masses lose respect for us) help with anything?

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

1. There is nobody who

1. There is nobody who qualifies for presidency after paul. whats the point of controlling the republican party if they just popular vote the biggest rhino they can find into office?

2.Who said it would be a circus? A powerpoint presentation with media cameras present would be all that is needed to educate america.

then again im only shooting out ideas at this point. But anybody confusing themselves with the idea that we will be left with anything after this point without ron paul in the white house is confused

Well...

"1. There is nobody who qualifies for presidency after paul. whats the point of controlling the republican party if they just popular vote the biggest rhino they can find into office?"

You don't think there's anyone other than Ron Paul who we could ever support? Did you think Paul would win fix everything in a single administration? Even if Paul wins, we are going to be fighting this war for a LONG time. "Nobody but Paul" is a campaign slogan for this campaign, not a defining principle of the R3volution. Why do you think Paul has endorsed other liberty candidates?!

"2. Who said it would be a circus? A powerpoint presentation with media cameras present would be all that is needed to educate america."

You suggested that we "wreck" the convention. Now you're saying you meant we should do a PowerPoint presentation? LOL...that's not what "wreck" means in my neck of the woods.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wreck

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."

Paulbots vs reality

I really do hate the whole anyone but Paul thing sometimes because what if another good guy comes?

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if somebody with a line of

if somebody with a line of credibility as good as paul can be found tell me about it.

otherwise we are just electing another politician

Let's see...

My plan: after this election, whether Paul wins or loses, we decide on another politician to support in 2016. We also support liberty candidates for Congress, and for State and Local elections. The movement continues and grows, without compromising anything.

Your plan: If Paul wins, I expect him to fix everything in one administration. If he loses, then I'm taking my ball and going home. I quit. The movement collapses and we lose.

Hmmm....

"Alas! I believe in the virtue of birds. And it only takes a feather for me to die laughing."