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Benton, the "Chief Strategist" (never seen this before) is NOT using intentional reverse psychology!

This definitely NOT an intended strategy... The Campaign is either...
spooked, co-opted,or traitorous, but the last 48 hours is definitely NOT an intended reverse psychology strategy. They're probably spooked or been threatened or so insulated from the grassroots reality, they're clueless. In 2008 and 2012 there was/is a vast disconnect and distrust (way, way more than an arms length distance) between the campaign and the grassroots.

I was on the 2008 staff and for a short time on the 2012 staff. I am biting my tongue and refraining from revealing certain things. But.....

We need be like William Wallace in the face of his betrayer, formerly his friend, Robert Bruce. Like Wallace, we need to do the right thing anyway come hell or high water, whether we're weak and wounded warriors (shot by "friendly" fire, even if shot onpurpose).

It's time for us to continue and completely LEAD and take over the campaign from the grassroots (IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE GRASSROOTS ANYWAY... IN 2008 AND 2012) by example, initiative, NOT BACKING DOWN, righteously fighting for Dr. Paul, even in the face of Benton crapping on us.

F R E E D O M ! ! !

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Michael, the3rd highest "top recent topics (mine) just pulled.


Ron Paul 2012
The Champion of the Constitution

At the cross Jesus Christ defeated sin, death, hell, and the new world order.
C’mon boys, let’s take the plunder!

This post (plus 38) was pulled from Top Posts just now. WHY?

WHY? Michael Nystrom?

Ron Paul 2012
The Champion of the Constitution

At the cross Jesus Christ defeated sin, death, hell, and the new world order.
C’mon boys, let’s take the plunder!



Submitted by AnCapMercenary on Tue, 05/15/2012 - 17:04. Permalink

Oh Dear...

* [face palm] * Is there an emoticon for that?

'Pardon me, was I shoveling a hole, deeper around me? You mean I'm already in it, and the villagers are filling it with water to drown me, even as we speak?'

You don't say...

Ach. R3VOL do what you must!

We're here to restore our Natural Rights.

Not to have a consulting career beyond 2012.

Please y'all, see through the delegate process till the end, regardless of any 'directives' to do otherwise. You will be supported by the grassroots, even financially, and legally if need be. We've always been independent and ran a 'parallel campaign.'

Do go 'off the reservation,' if you must.

We're here to restore our Natural Rights, The Constitution, and the Republic.

That's our goal.

Just please be cognizant of that. Anything else is tertiary.

I'd say respect Dr. Paul, and honor his wishes, mostly, but ignore the wishes of the campaign, most certainly.


Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Do you know what this

Do you know what this announcement did do though? Have you noticed that since it came out Paul has been invited to speak at the MI, and TX state conventions, with MORE speaking slots to come? Now that Paul is no longer viewed as a threat by the establishment, he is being asked to come speak at state conventions! The establishment NOW see Paul is a great rallyer that can be "used" by them to inject some enthusiasm into the Romney campaign. We know this will not happen, but what it does is allow the establishment national delegates a chance to sit back and without feeling threaten, LISTEN to what Paul is saying. This COULD have the effect of helping other non-Paul supporting National delegates see the light and eventually support him at Tampa! If this is the thought process of the campaign, it may prove genius after all! This will also, IF Paul is nominated, allow it to seem like he was the consensus of the establishment instead of being shoved down people's throat by a renegade outside group. This could play to our favor, especially if Mitt begins to decline in the polls.

They created the beast


a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat

Holla!!! We are going to

Holla!!! We are going to Tampa with or without the backing of the campaign employees.

Extremism in the Defense of Liberty Is No Vice ~ Barry Goldwater

Like I said several month ago

Like I said several month ago . . . the only way Ron Paul will be safe is if there is a huge movement behind him. Gathering delegates and getting positions in all levels of the GOP and individuals elected as Senators and Congressmen, etc is what will make it safe.

I don't think the Campaign actually realized our

delegate strategy would actually succeed in taking the state conventions, where the other candidates won the beauty contests. I think they have made the decision to direct the resources to the conventions, and 'hopefully' start challenging the obsconding of the party rules. So many people attacked the Campaign for not having representation in Oklahoma in Arizona, so they decided to use the resources on the delegate process, instead of making all the campus speechs, Dr Paul knows he has the support for his message, and now they need to go into 'stealth battle mode'.


my two cents....I think the campaign is actually worried that a number of our delegate slates that won fair and square will NOT be seated in Tampa. It is entirely possible that Benton is simply posturing and tempering expectations to at least make it seem as though the campaign is going to start playing nice and might circle the wagons around Romney......I guarantee you that this campaign will never endorse Romney, so if Jesse Benton is posturing anything differently now it is probably with purposeful intent, and concern on the campaigns mind about our delegates. We do want our delegates to be heard right? If the campaign is 100% antagonistic against the GOP we will get exactly no where, we need to at least make it seem like we will deal in the end otherwise the RNC and the GOP will nullify all that we've worked so hard to accomplish. Please think this through.

The Broken Window Strategy:


Many people today have tried to spin the false impression that Ron Paul is out of the race as a good thing, and a clever strategy for use as a Trojan Horse against Romney supporters.

Many are also assuming that the media announcing he had dropped out based off of the press release, is the result of some kind of smart political play by the campaign. It is not, it is an unintended consequence. If the campaign actually wanted people to think this, why would Jack Hunter and Doug Wead be trying so hard to undo the damage done by this falsehood?

While I understand where you guys are coming from, people not knowing that Ron is still running is not a positive thing.

Don't you all remember that just yesterday, we were complaining about the media ignoring Ron Paul and giving the impression that Romney was the only one left in the race?

If this is such a "good thing" shouldn't we be thanking the Mainstream Media for acting as if he isn't running?

If I wanted people to buy a product from me, would I want them to know I was open for business, or would I want to promote a rumor that said I was out of business?

If you don't see the obvious answer there, then please for the sake of future investors, do not start your own company.

This reminds me of the Broken Window Fallacy.

Those espousing this idea are forgetting the teachings of our good friend Frederic Bastiat and focusing on what is seen, and not what is unseen.

They see that it might make some Romney supporters let down their guard, but they aren't seeing all the Ron Paul supporters or possible future supporters that don't think he is running, and won't work as hard to get him elected if they weren't under that impression.

If this is such a good idea, then why did we even campaign in the first place.

Using this chain of assumptions, we shouldn't have campaigned at all.

This is a Logical Fallacy!

It is an absurdity!

Ignorance of Ron Paul's candidacy is detrimental, not beneficial!

This is a mistake and not some purposeful grand strategy, to spin it as such we are being dishonest with ourselves.

Yes, the campaign makes mistakes, it is not infallible, and those pointing out the mistakes are not evil doers.

The campaign is run by human beings and humans are not perfect, only the concept of Liberty is.

We need to make others aware of Dr. Paul's candidacy, not encourage ignorance of it.

Check out the Laissez-Faire Journal at LFJournal.com

"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

How about

"you be the change you want to see in the world" with or without the campaign. stick to the goal

The word on the streets

is that those PAULBOTS are planning some dirty deeds in Tampa.
It seems that if Romney gets the nomination, that they will all join together to drown out his acceptance speech.
Heard they were planning on a massive "Romney Blackout" by chanting in unison together...
Word is they will be chanting RON PAUL, RON PAUL, ETC.
Whatever, their is talk that since the establishment has blacked out Dr. Paul for YEARS, they're going to return the favor by "BLACKING OUT ROMNEY"...
An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.

Romney trolls are thick

Romney trolls are thick on the DP tonight,
Who votes down a negative Romney comment but a Romney troll.

He's not a troll

Re-read his post from a pro-paul POV.

An intellectual in the group

Thank You BrooklynChick for the come-back.

I voted it down because I saw he was a troll


Never back down. Never

Never back down. Never surrender.

End the Fed. End the Wars. Problems Solved. Ron Paul.

Delegates to Tampa

Everyone stop bickering and go participate in your conventions. Become a delegate, or do what you can to help other Paul supporters to become delegates. I'll see you in Tampa!

"Where liberty is, there is my country." -Benjamin Franklin

Wouldn't Surprise Me...

It wouldn't surprise me, as you suggest, if any of the RP campaign have been threatened by the true controllers of the American Empire.

IT"S TIME FOR Benton to get the hell OUT OF OUR Way!

I am absolutely serious that we must now LEAD the campaign whether the "official" campaign follow or not! It is time to COMPLETELY IGNORE JESSE BENTON and the "official" campaign because he and they are most certainly NOT helping OUR CAMPAIGN to elect Dr. Ron Paul as our next President!

We will NOT ACCEPT ANY SUBSTITUTE for the presidential WIN! I don't care what it is!

It's Ron Paul for President or NOTHING AT ALL!

I'm ALL IN! I'm glad YOU ARE TOO!

This is NOT a game. It's the survival of our country and the CONSTITUTION that is at stake, and that ain't hyperbole!

Ron Paul 2012
The Champion of the Constitution

At the cross Jesus Christ defeated sin, death, hell, and the new world order.
C’mon boys, let’s take the plunder!

It isn't Benton, it is Ron Paul

What are we going to do, give up, or continue sweeping state delegates and find out what the campaign is scared of at convention time. The fight is at the convention and they must of got a major threat, or something. Who cares, win delegates and put the ball in Ron Pauls court. What is he going to say I refuse the nomination?

They can't threaten a whole

They can't threaten a whole convention, which will draft someone else if a nomination is refused for some reason. This is what they don't understand. Grassroots and tons of individuals doing their own thing.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

Tha6t is just wrong. They can and they will.

The entrance was like TSA used to be before they got perverted - bag check, show your credentials, smile for the nice jack booted thugs literally lining the walkways all the way around the Convention Center - they are there for your protection, right? But what really made me feel safe was the snipers hanging out of the helicopters circling the place.
Then there was the little chat where all delegates were informed that the event was scripted, only assigned people were to approach microphones or they would be arrested and if someone got to a microphone and varied from their script their microphone would be cut off.
Enthusiasm is a wonderful thing, but listening to the voice of bitter experience is useful, too.
We burrowed into the heart of the lair of the beast in 2008. We learned some hard lessons. Perhaps the hardest to accept is that in spite of a stadium full of Ron Paul supporters cheering Jesse Ventura for speaking out on 9-11, Ron Paul would still slander his supporters who have legitimate questions regarding the official story. But it cannot be denied that the campaign's top man stabbed me in the back at the RNC. How far up did that order come from? I don't know.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:

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I AGREE 1000%

Thank you for this post!

Much appreciated!

Norfolk, VA

Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.


INSPITE of and WITHOUT and perhaps IN OPPOSITION TO the Campaign, And WHAT are we going to do?

We are going to make Dr. Ron Paul the President of the United States of America in November this year (just 6 months away)!

Ron Paul 2012
The Champion of the Constitution

At the cross Jesus Christ defeated sin, death, hell, and the new world order.
C’mon boys, let’s take the plunder!

All this stuff about the campaign but not a word about

anything wrong at www.ronpaul.com

When we hear our President, Dr. Ron Paul talk about his in his own words on video then and then only do I believe. All day now, never a word from the President. That is unless I missed something.

fearless brave joyful peaceful loving grateful, compassionate

I agree

My president, Dr. Paul, has not told me to stand down.... and our founding fathers have charged us with changing this government... so change we must.



Or face the consequences.

I vote for clueless...

Benton sounds like he reads the MSM and believes what they say.

Don't insult the clueless

Clueless are people too, and don't deserve the comparison :)