Some Historical Perspective for Ron Paul Activists ( Lew Rockwell )
Submitted by RG4RP on Wed, 05/16/2012 - 07:52Lew Rockwell.com
I've been somewhat surprised by the absolutely hysterical reaction among some RP activists to Ron Paul's announcement that he's shifting resources toward winning more delegates instead of blowing it on straw polls in new primaries. In some of the forums, alleged "supporters" are hurling insults at both Ron and his staffers.
I remember how after 2008, some people I talked to pledged to "never give money ever again" to Ron Paul because he "wasn't serious" about winning. These people think elections are all that matter, but that's not how political and intellectual movements work. The election of numerous libertarian candidates will be a lagging indicator, not a leading indicator, of the success of a libertarian movement. The population still isn't there. Although it will be.
It's absolutely unbelievable that some people who claim to be champions of freedom are now viciously badmouthing a man who can claim much credit in making libertarianism a household word – as it now is – and has been instrumental in building the most important challenge to central banking and the warfare state in a century. All of this is in addition to taking control of the GOP machinery in numerous states and cong. districts.
I might also note that I turned on the tele the other day and there was Ron Paul talking about central banking. Note to newcomer activists: I know it's hard to believe, but before RP's 2008 run, there was once a time when libertarians weren't on TV regularly talking about Austrian free-market economics and the evils of war. I swear it's true. Cross my heart and hope to die.
Politically, Ron Paul is doing what the Religious Right successfully did 20 years ago when it became a major force in the party, and he's rebuilding the intellectual infrastructure of the American right wing in a way similar to what Buckley did in the 1950s. Except, where Buckley only pretended to be for the rule of law and limited government, Ron Paul is the real thing. And Paul's even doing it without CIA money, unlike Buckley. RP's the continuation of the old libertarian movement that existed in opposition to war and the New Deal before it was hijacked by the conservative apologists for the state.
Except now, instead of being composed of a few dozen guys who could all have met in a small hotel ballroom, the movement for peace and freedom is a huge nationwide movement.
Anyone who, like me, teaches people in their twenties can already see a huge change. The ideas of libertarianism have a credibility they have not had in decades, if not not since the late 19th century when Herbert Spencer was a best-selling author in America.
Those of us who have been involved in the libertarian movement for more than ten years can see a huge difference, and those who have been around for decades undoubtedly see even more. Nevertheless, I can understand that a younger person, or a person who has never been politically active before, might view one presidential election as some kind of end-all-be-all of the freedom movement, but it's not.
The Ron Paul phenomenon isn't even close to being done re-shaping the American political landscape, yet amazingly, some people seem to think that not running TV ads in California somehow signifies a lack of seriousness on the part of the Paul campaign. Only a complete lack of experience and historical perspective could lead one to such conclusions.
May 16, 2012 http://www.lewrockwell.com/mcmaken/mcmaken140.html
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My Friend's Response to This...
Fellow Paul supporter sent this e-mail to the author. I thought it made sense and wanted to share with y'all.
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Mr. McMaken,
Thanks for the reminder/broad view of the successes planted and watered by Dr. Paul.
If you will permit, just a couple thoughts on the palpable frustration we witness among the Paul
supporters with the new strategy shift. Note: The language used in recent campaign
announcements is problematic, clearly striking a tone of resignation even while promising to
continue fighting. This inherent tension may be crafted precisely, or accidentally confusing.
Either way, you must know as a writer that the outcome will be highly conflicting views of what
is/was being said. And, as much as they like to avoid the MSM -- it's still difficult for Paul
supporters to repel the emotions of how it was interpreted and reported widely as Paul's "quit."
You see, I do think there are significant numbers of supporters genuinely worried that if this election
opportunity is scuttled, there will be no "American landscape" remaining for the movement to continue
influencing. Whether justified or not, many do think the stakes are so desperate that NOW is an
absolute critical point of "win or die." They are concerned the progress and planting will be moot in a fallen
nation. Like I say -- justified or not. No one can really predict at this point.
It is not that Paul's supporters (generally) don't appreciate the growth of the movement or the way it has
now rooted for the future. It is more about the sense of recently tasting the real possibility of winning in
this cycle -- only to have the campaign demure. At a time when many of these supporters were feeling
the investment begin to promise the jackpot, it appears the candidate has taken the hand and moved to
a different table. To add some context, last week they had been stirred to belief by Doug Wead that
May 9 would be an "important" day and the implication was a major (read: positive) announcement -- and
it was anti-climactic, to be generous. From one anti-climax...to the extremely difficult weekend conflicts
of Oklahoma and Arizona...to the announcement this week of "shifting resources" (another anti-climax).
So to be sympathetic, they have had a rough couple of weeks. Many times in answer to the media
question "Is it a movement or the presidency you want?, Dr. Paul's answer was " "Why can't it be both?"
Many Paul supporters agree. And many have recently come to believe it could really happen with the
surging delegate numbers. Rather than criticize them for perhaps over-modulated expressions of
disappointment (passionate people), perhaps you might consider that their belief is that the movement
and mainstreaming of libertarianism has it's greatest potential if Paul can also win the presidency and
usher it forward right now -- when the country still has some toes on the board.
The Paul revolution is like a big family. When families have misunderstandings and/or disagreements,
it can get loud and things are said. But Thoreau was insightful when he wrote "In wildness is the
preservation of the world." [not 'wilderness' as some quote him] When the world is at stake, the
"wildness" can surface, arguably a needful component of survival. I suspect that these folks who are tired,
hurt, upset embattled and confused -- sharing their feelings -- will simmer down and keep fighting.
Because the survival of freedom is at stake and this is who they are and what they love. Whatever
happens, let's pray that America will live to see the day when what Dr. Paul has advanced is the norm --
because of his victory to the presidency, or in spite of defeat on that front. The family will continue
spawning libertarians and growing larger. At such time when "survival" no longer seems at risk, the
wildness may take a break. Or not. ;-)
Thanks for listening. And for writing. Keep up the good work.
Excellent view of the situation
I think we are going to be a better political position than
the Christian right, just because we can take over both parties.
Many of the comments.........
posted in the last week have been from Romney trolls who are doing their best to try to divide and conquer.They masquerade as RP supporters and try to inject as much doubt as possible into RP's support base.
They are even posting replies to this article right now.
Its getting tougher to sort them out though.
Bump
Bump
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent. -Thomas Jefferson
That's not why people reacted.
People reacted because there are still thousands of delegates going to state conventions and the campaign went public saying we can't win.
It would have been better to just not say anything.
The author of this article on lewrockwell obviously has no experience in state conventions.
Re: That's not why people are reacted
Thank you, for stating what should be the obvious. I am flat out furious. My county, (the largest in Washington state) took every single delegate and alternate position for Ron Paul. The delegates are right now struggling to gather the funds to go to the state convention. I was a Ron Paul delegate at my county convention. Tampa will be an even bigger sacrifice.
As far as I'm concerned, Jesse Benton is a betrayor and traitor, his torpedo shot at a perfect time for our opposition. We already know that the Republican elite don't want us at the conventions. It's crystal clear to me Jesse isn't working for the Ron Paul campaign, but for our opposition.
How many delegates are going to be willing to sacrifice, and even sell off personal possesions just to get a 'seat' at the table? We're giving it our ALL because we want to see Ron Paul as our President, NOT to get a 'seat' at the table.
Worse, I see on this forum, several instances of people accusing Ron Paul supporters of being 'trolls' and pretend Ron Paul supporters because they're stating the obvious. How dare they! Can't they see past the end of their nose, or are they one of those net warriors that don't have a clue because they've never done any of the on the ground work that it takes to work your way through and become a delegate, nor, have they sacrificed anything to travel to a convention?
I believe Jesse Benton's goal was to sabotage delegates from even showing up for their conventions or Tampa. His words could have had no other purpose. So, now I'm left to wonder if we've all been used? I feel like the rug was just ripped out from under us and the attack didn't come from our opposition, it came fron within the Ron Paul campaign.
Oh, and for those that wish to accuse me of being a troll because they are unable to comprehend the obvious, here's my face book page:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/342501185770351/#!/alice.smith.543
Re: that's not why people reacted
Thank you, for stating what should be the obvious. I am flat out furious. My county, (the largest in Washington state) took every single delegate and alternate position for Ron Paul. The delegates are right now struggling to gather the funds to go to the state convention. I was a Ron Paul delegate at my county convention. Tampa will be an even bigger sacrifice.
As far as I'm concerned, Jesse Benton is a betrayor and traitor, his torpedo shot at a perfect time for our opposition. We already know that the Republican elite don't want us at the conventions. It's crystal clear to me Jesse isn't working for the Ron Paul campaign, but for our opposition.
How many delegates are going to be willing to sacrifice, and even sell off personal possesions just to get a 'seat' at the table? We're giving it our ALL because we want to see Ron Paul as our President, NOT to get a 'seat' at the table.
Worse, I see on this forum, several instances of people accusing Ron Paul supporters of being 'trolls' and pretend Ron Paul supporters because they're stating the obvious. How dare they! Can't they see past the end of their nose, or are they one of those net warriors that don't have a clue because they've never done any of the on the ground work that it takes to work your way through and become a delegate, nor, have they sacrificed anything to travel to a convention?
I believe Jesse Benton's goal was to sabotage delegates from even showing up for their conventions or Tampa. His words could have had no other purpose. So, now I'm left to wonder if we've all been used? I feel like the rug was just ripped out from under us and the attack didn't come from our opposition, it came fron within the Ron Paul campaign.
Oh, and for those that wish to accuse me of being a troll because they are unable to comprehend the obvious, here's my face book page:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/342501185770351/#!/alice.smith.543
Re: that's not why people reacted
Thank you, for stating what should be the obvious. I am flat out furious. My county, (the largest in Washington state) took every single delegate and alternate position for Ron Paul. The delegates are right now struggling to gather the funds to go to the state convention. I was a Ron Paul delegate at my county convention. Tampa will be an even bigger sacrifice.
As far as I'm concerned, Jesse Benton is a betrayor and traitor, his torpedo shot at a perfect time for our opposition. We already know that the Republican elite don't want us at the conventions. It's crystal clear to me Jesse isn't working for the Ron Paul campaign, but for our opposition.
How many delegates are going to be willing to sacrifice, and even sell off personal possesions just to get a 'seat' at the table? We're giving it our ALL because we want to see Ron Paul as our President, NOT to get a 'seat' at the table.
Worse, I see on this forum, several instances of people accusing Ron Paul supporters of being 'trolls' and pretend Ron Paul supporters because they're stating the obvious. How dare they! Can't they see past the end of their nose, or are they one of those net warriors that don't have a clue because they've never done any of the on the ground work that it takes to work your way through and become a delegate, nor, have they sacrificed anything to travel to a convention?
I believe Jesse Benton's goal was to sabotage delegates from even showing up for their conventions or Tampa. His words could have had no other purpose. So, now I'm left to wonder if we've all been used? I feel like the rug was just ripped out from under us and the attack didn't come from our opposition, it came fron within the Ron Paul campaign.
Oh, and for those that wish to accuse me of being a troll because they are unable to comprehend the obvious, here's my face book page:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/342501185770351/#!/alice.smith.543
That's not why people reacted
Thank you, for stating what should be the obvious. I am flat out furious. My county, (the largest in Washington state) took every single delegate and alternate position for Ron Paul. The delegates are right now struggling to gather the funds to go to the state convention. I was a Ron Paul delegate at my county convention. Tampa will be an even bigger sacrifice.
As far as I'm concerned, Jesse Benton is a betrayor and traitor, his torpedo shot at a perfect time for our opposition. We already know that the Republican elite don't want us at the conventions. It's crystal clear to me Jesse isn't working for the Ron Paul campaign, but for our opposition.
How many delegates are going to be willing to sacrifice, and even sell off personal possesions just to get a 'seat' at the table? We're giving it our ALL because we want to see Ron Paul as our President, NOT to get a 'seat' at the table.
Worse, I see on this forum, several instances of people accusing Ron Paul supporters of being 'trolls' and pretend Ron Paul supporters because they're stating the obvious. How dare they! Can't they see past the end of their nose, or are they one of those net warriors that don't have a clue because they've never done any of the on the ground work that it takes to work your way through and become a delegate, nor, have they sacrificed anything to travel to a convention?
I believe Jesse Benton's goal was to sabotage delegates from even showing up for their conventions or Tampa. His words could have had no other purpose. So, now I'm left to wonder if we've all been used? I feel like the rug was just ripped out from under us and the attack didn't come from our opposition, it came fron within the Ron Paul campaign.
Oh, and for those that wish to accuse me of being a troll because they are unable to comprehend the obvious, here's my face book page:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/342501185770351/#!/alice.smith.543
Re: That's not why people reacted
Thank you, for stating what should be the obvious. I am flat out furious. My county, (the largest in Washington state) took every single delegate and alternate position for Ron Paul. The delegates are right now struggling to gather the funds to go to the state convention. I was a Ron Paul delegate at my county convention. Tampa will be an even bigger sacrifice.
As far as I'm concerned, Jesse Benton is a betrayor and traitor, his torpedo shot at a perfect time for our opposition. We already know that the Republican elite don't want us at the conventions. It's crystal clear to me Jesse isn't working for the Ron Paul campaign, but for our opposition.
How many delegates are going to be willing to sacrifice, and even sell off personal possesions just to get a 'seat' at the table? We're giving it our ALL because we want to see Ron Paul as our President, NOT to get a 'seat' at the table.
Worse, I see on this forum, several instances of people accusing Ron Paul supporters of being 'trolls' and pretend Ron Paul supporters because they're stating the obvious. How dare they! Can't they see past the end of their nose, or are they one of those net warriors that don't have a clue because they've never done any of the on the ground work that it takes to work your way through and become a delegate, nor, have they sacrificed anything to travel to a convention?
I believe Jesse Benton's goal was to sabotage delegates from even showing up for their conventions or Tampa. His words could have had no other purpose. So, now I'm left to wonder if we've all been used? I feel like the rug was just ripped out from under us and the attack didn't come from our opposition, it came fron within the Ron Paul campaign.
Oh, and for those that wish to accuse me of being a troll because they are unable to comprehend the obvious, here's my face book page:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/342501185770351/#!/alice.smith.543
Re: That's not why people reacted
Thank you, for stating what should be the obvious. I am flat out furious. My county, (the largest in Washington state) took every single delegate and alternate position for Ron Paul. The delegates are right now struggling to gather the funds to go to the state convention. I was a Ron Paul delegate at my county convention. Tampa will be an even bigger sacrifice.
As far as I'm concerned, Jesse Benton is a betrayor and traitor, his torpedo shot at a perfect time for our opposition. We already know that the Republican elite don't want us at the conventions. It's crystal clear to me Jesse isn't working for the Ron Paul campaign, but for our opposition.
How many delegates are going to be willing to sacrifice, and even sell off personal possesions just to get a 'seat' at the table? We're giving it our ALL because we want to see Ron Paul as our President, NOT to get a 'seat' at the table.
Worse, I see on this forum, several instances of people accusing Ron Paul supporters of being 'trolls' and pretend Ron Paul supporters because they're stating the obvious. How dare they! Can't they see past the end of their nose, or are they one of those net warriors that don't have a clue because they've never done any of the on the ground work that it takes to work your way through and become a delegate, nor, have they sacrificed anything to travel to a convention?
I believe Jesse Benton's goal was to sabotage delegates from even showing up for their conventions or Tampa. His words could have had no other purpose. So, now I'm left to wonder if we've all been used? I feel like the rug was just ripped out from under us and the attack didn't come from our opposition, it came fron within the Ron Paul campaign.
Oh, and for those that wish to accuse me of being a troll because they are unable to comprehend the obvious, here's my face book page:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/342501185770351/#!/alice.smith.543
Re: That's not why people reacted
Thank you, for stating what should be the obvious. I am flat out furious. My county, (the largest in Washington state) took every single delegate and alternate position for Ron Paul. The delegates are right now struggling to gather the funds to go to the state convention. I was a Ron Paul delegate at my county convention. Tampa will be an even bigger sacrifice.
As far as I'm concerned, Jesse Benton is a betrayor and traitor, his torpedo shot at a perfect time for our opposition. We already know that the Republican elite don't want us at the conventions. It's crystal clear to me Jesse isn't working for the Ron Paul campaign, but for our opposition.
How many delegates are going to be willing to sacrifice, and even sell off personal possessions just to get a 'seat' at the table? We're giving it our ALL because we want to see Ron Paul as our President, NOT to get a 'seat' at the table.
Worse, I see on this forum, several instances of people accusing Ron Paul supporters of being 'trolls' and pretend Ron Paul supporters because they're stating the obvious. How dare they! Can't they see past the end of their nose, or are they one of those net warriors that don't have a clue because they've never done any of the on the ground work that it takes to work your way through and become a delegate, nor, have they sacrificed anything to travel to a convention?
I believe Jesse Benton's goal was to sabotage delegates from even showing up for their conventions or Tampa. His words could have had no other purpose. So, now I'm left to wonder if we've all been used?
Oh, and for those that wish to accuse me of being a troll because they are unable to comprehend the obvious, here's my face book page:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/342501185770351/#!/alice.smith.543
Re: That's not wy people reacted
THANK YOU! for stating what should be the obvious. I am flat out furious. My county, (the largest in Washington state) took every single delegate and alternate position for Ron Paul. The delegates are right now struggling to gather the funds to go to the state convention. I was a Ron Paul delegate at my county convention. Tampa will be an even bigger sacrifice.
As far as I'm concerned, Jesse Benton is a betrayor and traitor, his torpedo shot at a perfect time for our opposition. We already know that the Republican elite don't want us at the conventions. It's crystal clear to me Jesse isn't working for the Ron Paul campaign, but for our opposition.
How many delegates are going to be willing to sacrifice, and even sell off personal possesions just to get a 'seat' at the table? We're giving it our ALL because we want to see Ron Paul as our President, NOT to get a 'seat' at the table.
Worse, I see on this forum, several instances of people accusing Ron Paul supporters of being 'trolls' and pretend Ron Paul supporters because they're stating the obvious. How dare they! Can't they see past the end of their nose, or are they one of those net warriors that don't have a clue because they've never done any of the on the ground work that it takes to work your way through and become a delegate, nor, have they sacrificed anything to travel to a convention?
I believe Jesse Benton's goal was to sabotage delegates from even showing up for their conventions or Tampa. His words could have had no other purpose. So, now I'm left to wonder if we've all been used?
Oh, and for those that wish to accuse me of being a troll because they are unable to comprehend the obvious, here's my face book page:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/342501185770351/#!/alice.smith.543
Thank you, for stating what
Thank you, for stating what should be the obvious. I am flat out furious. My county, (the largest in Washington state) took every single delegate and alternate position for Ron Paul. The delegates are right now struggling to gather the funds to go to the state convention. I was a Ron Paul delegate at my county convention. Tampa will be an even bigger sacrifice.
As far as I'm concerned, Jesse Benton is a betrayor and traitor, his torpedo shot at a perfect time for our opposition. We already know that the Republican elite don't want us at the conventions. It's crystal clear to me Jesse isn't working for the Ron Paul campaign, but for our opposition.
How many delegates are going to be willing to sacrifice, and even sell off personal possesions just to get a 'seat' at the table? We're giving it our ALL because we want to see Ron Paul as our President, NOT to get a 'seat' at the table.
Worse, I see on this forum, several instances of people accusing Ron Paul supporters of being 'trolls' and pretend Ron Paul supporters because they're stating the obvious. How dare they! Can't they see past the end of their nose, or are they one of those net warriors that don't have a clue because they've never done any of the on the ground work that it takes to work your way through and become a delegate, nor, have they sacrificed anything to travel to a convention?
I believe Jesse Benton's goal was to sabotage delegates from even showing up for their conventions or Tampa. His words could have had no other purpose. So, now I'm left to wonder if we've all been used?
Oh, and for those that wish to accuse me of being a troll because they are unable to comprehend the obvious, here's my face book page:
http://www.facebook.com/groups/342501185770351/#!/alice.smith.543
Re: That's not why people reacted
Thank you, for stating what should be the obvious. I am flat out furious. My county, (the largest in Washington state) took every single delegate and alternate position for Ron Paul. The delegates are right now struggling to gather the funds to go to the state convention. Tampa will be an even bigger sacrifice.
As far as I'm concerned, Jesse Benton is a betrayor and traitor, his torpedo shot at a perfect time for our opposition. We already know that the Republican elite don't want us at the conventions. It's crystal clear to me Jesse isn't working for the Ron Paul campaign, but for our opposition.
How many delegates are going to be willing to sacrifice, and even sell off personal possesions just to get a 'seat' at the table? We're giving it our ALL because we want to see Ron Paul as our President, not to get a 'seat' at the table.
Worse, I see on this forum, several instances of people accusing Ron Paul supporters of being 'trolls' and pretend Ron Paul supporters because they're stating the obvious. How dare they! Can't they see past the end of their nose, or are they one of those net warriors that don't have a clue because they've never done any of the on the ground work that it takes to work your way through and become a delegate, nor, have they sacrificed anything to travel to a convention?
I believe Jesse Benton's goal was to sabotage delegates from even showing up for their conventions or Tampa. His words could have had no other purpose. So, now I'm left to wonder if we've all been used?
Re: That's not why people reacted
Thank you, for stating what should be the obvious. I am flat out furious. My county, (the largest in Washington state) took every single delegate and alternate position for Ron Paul. The delegates are right now struggling to gather the funds to go to the state convention. Tampa will be an even bigger sacrifice.
As far as I'm concerned, Jesse Benton is a betrayor and traitor, his torpedo shot at a perfect time for our opposition. We already know that the Republican elite don't want us at the conventions. It's crystal clear to me Jesse isn't working for the Ron Paul campaign, but for our opposition.
How many delegates are going to be willing to sacrifice, and even sell off personal possesions just to get a 'seat' at the table? We're giving it our ALL because we want to see Ron Paul as our President, not to get a 'seat' at the table.
Worse, I see on this forum, several instances of people accusing Ron Paul supporters of being 'trolls' and pretend Ron Paul supporters because they're stating the obvious. How dare they! Can't they see past the end of their nose, or are they one of those net warriors that don't have a clue because they've never done any of the on the ground work that it takes to work your way through and become a delegate, nor, have they sacrificed anything to travel to a convention?
I believe Jesse Benton's goal was to sabotage delegates from even showing up for their conventions or Tampa. His words could have had no other purpose. So, now I'm left to wonder if we've all been used?
ya im slow so you best not have thrown the ball cus it will hit
me in the face.. but it's your fault for throwing the ball and not mine for being stupid and slow
nice logic
So this is an intellectual movement, not a political campaign?
Sorry, but that is a load of horse hockey. If that has been the goal from the beginning, then I think the campaign has accepted money under false pretenses. In my opinion, Jesse Benton's recent actions are a disaster. For reasons that are not apparent to me, Benton has has purposely imploded the campaign and crushed the slim chance of victory. There is no way to sugar coat it to make it seem that Ron Paul supporters have no right to be angry.
What is truly incomprehendable to me is how the campaign can ask for more donations now. Benton conceeded to Romney and admitted to negotiating with Romney for changes to the party platform. I will not fund an effort to negotiate with Romney, a known liar, for empty promises. I will continue to fight for liberty, but I am done with writing checks to this campaign....uh, I mean intelectual movement.
Re: So this is an intelectual...
I agree with you. Please take a look at the following video at the 50 second mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHunAGmV7VI
You can hear Jesse Benton for yourself. My first thought when I got Benton's email was I wonder how much the Romney campaign paid him. After viewing this video now I'm wondering in addition to money, what position they've promised him.
If Ron Paul does NOT not take a stand against Jesse Benton's traitorous actions of betrayal, Ron Paul will be betraying his supporters that have worked hard to see that he gets elected, NOT, to get a seat at the table.
FWIW, those words of Benton's came straight out of the MSM's campaign to dismiss Ron Paul. Ron Paul OWES his supporters that have sacrificed working through this process to stand up and make a CLEAR refute of Jesse Benton.
Now, is not the time to be so gracious as to let his supporters hang in the wind.
Shades of 2008
when the campaign died with a whimper? I remember in 2008 the campaign just ended with supporters scratching their heads and asking "Does this mean the campaign is over?" This better not be happening again.
http://www.dailypaul.com/52211/did-ron-paul-quit-or-not
All I know is that I left two days ago on some business and when I return everyone is in a tizzy. I don't know what Jesse, Doug or Ron said while I was gone but I can't believe they would be calling it quits at this juncture.
What ever is happening I would have to agree with your reaction to negotiating with Romney or making donations to a faltering campaign. IF it is true.
this movement is both
if it were only a one-time political effort, we would have finished after 08 and you wouldn't be here. as process drags on, we invest resources into both, so in case a political bid fails, we will move much of the remaining resources onto the next effort right after a particular election bid. this method thus far has brought us 3~4 times expansion from 08 to this cycle. i am sure some weaker minded people with poor temperament chose not to continue, so that cost is calculated, we still get 3~4 times. you are free to do what you want. quite frankly people with low perseverance threshold is pretty dispensable. delegate process to garner national attention may or may not help the eventual end, but it still is going to help us get the recognition we need for our next political effort, should things turn out not the way we wanted. just don't log back in after another couple years and pretend to be a seasoned supporter like some may do, if you choose the alternative path. this may move more mentally enduring supporters up the ladder into senior positions of organizers even, not a bad process of natural selection.
And support who?
This movement wouldn't still be around if not for Ron Paul. Do you think you will attract people with Jesse Ventura or Gary Johnson. No sir, the only reason this "movement" picked up where 2008 left off is because we have someone worthy of support named Ron Paul. He won't be here in 1016. When I run for president will you support me because I supported Ron Paul? Probably not. So much for the "movement". I feel one coming on right now.
Ron Paul could announce that
Ron Paul could announce that he's packing it in and heading home today. I would not think ill of him for it. Ron Paul can't be expected to be the torch bearer forever. Just like when Gandalf, Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Dumbledore died in their respective stories, the quest was not over. It was then up to their pupils to see the quest through to the end. The sun setting on Dr. Paul is not a sun setting on liberty but rather the sun rising on a new generation of liberty advocates.
Excellent piece!
~Chris
Norfolk, VA
~Chris
Norfolk, VA
Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.
Nobody
can a say a bad word about dr paul. Jesse benton however has some gall in stating we would bow down to mittens at the convention. Im sure jesse is just trying to land a gig after the election but he will be remembered as the sell-out in the end. Like I said Ron Paul deserves his face on mt rushmore but benton has to prove he isnt a traitor. Maybe if never quotes the ap delegate count again..
Do you think Benton works without Paul's AUTHORITY?
If Paul disagreed with Benton don't you think he would do something about it? So ask yourself this: Is Benton still part of the campaign? If yes then Paul is as much to blame. If not then Paul has removed the blemish as needed.
hysterics and freakout fest is not us.
http://www.dailypaul.com/233859/for-the-real-ron-paul-suppor...
a nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat
Much of the "absolutely hysterical reaction" we see here &
at other RP sites is the result of concerted troll-attacks, undoubtedly inserted by Romney / RNC / Obm / neocon camps.
I hope Michael N & his mods find an effective way to keep them at bay.
In a way these pell-mell attacks are good for us: they TRAIN us to take individual stands in the midst of seemingly chaotic battle grounds.
We have always known that:
"We're here to restore our Natural Rights, The Constitution, and the Republic.
That's our goal. To be FREE at ALL costs.
Everything and Anything else is tertiary."
(from)
A R3VOLutionary's Declaration of Independence
Submitted by AnCapMercenary on Tue, 05/15/2012
http://www.dailypaul.com/233863/a-r3volutionarys-declaration...
The most devastating attack I have seen...
...was from Jesse Benton.