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GOP of MS Banned Cameras During State Convention Tomorrow! Advice Needed.

The Mississippi state convention is in 8 hours. I had planned to live stream the event, but received word that the republican party has banned cameras and specifically live streaming during this convention.

The party said that since they rented the room for the convention, they have the right to decide who gets to be allowed in and will have people with cameras escorted out. When asked for the reason, they said it was because of the recent mess with the Oklahoma convention that was caused because of live streaming. Is it legal for them to stop me from recording or have me escorted out by police? If anyone can give some legal advice before it begins at 9a.m. (Central time) today, it would be much appreciated!

Tim

EDIT: Thank you all for the advice. I have a good idea on what I'm going to do now. Assuming they havn't blocked out the wifi connection, I'll be posting the link to the live stream about an hour before it begins. If I can't get a connection, I may upload the video later. Wish me luck and thanks!

Update: at convention now, wifi is shut down, but I am recording. We didn't have the numbers to we needed to stop or amend the new rules they pushed. More to come

Update 2: Do not count on having any Ron Paul supporters as delegates in MS. Here is the video of the adoption of the new rules for the convention. We just didn't have the numbers from the start, so it was redundant to continue to fight. We fought again during the delegate elections, but lost again. We are now going to focus on growing our numbers and building rapport with the republican party. The GOP in MS has one of the biggest strong holds in the U.S., but we are not giving up. Until we have a bigger influence, do not count on having any Ron Paul delegates from MS :(.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwUGINcJg5k&feature=youtu.be



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Great for the Ron Paul

Great for the Ron Paul supporters to show up in the face of not having the majority. I love seeing the politician making faces at getting called out on issues. They are finally having to be accountable and they don't like it.

Someone with a dslr could

Someone with a dslr could have pretended to be taking pictures but actually recording video.

VOTE

Vote on it! You can override the rules if the delegates vote for transparency and openness. Vote on the floor to allow cameras. Most delegates on both sides will support this if you do it in the name of fairness and openness.

Even if, for some reason, you cannot win by voting... record anyway. Just don't let them see you doing it.

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How about Phones or grassroots members of the press

Does this ban specifically include cell phones and grassroots members of the free press.

no

The ban was spoken and not written, but I used my phone secretively anyway because I was the only one designated to record and didn't want to risk getting kicked out, especially if we didn't have the numbers to win a vote allowing video.
I didn't see any press there except for still photography.

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BUMP for those wanting to see the video I recorded and uploaded.

BUMP!

bumper, bump, bump!

Video caused the problem????????

No, video RECORDS THEIR WRONGDOING.

Banning video tells you simply and as directly as they can communicate anything, that they INTEND to violate the rules.

In Missouri, the St Charles county caucus was redone because they uploaded videos to youtube IMMEDIATELY after the original fracas. But in Jefferson County, where the violations were far worse, and persistently prolonged for over 8 hours, videos were not uploaded to public sites like youtube, instead were given to the state GOP. The state GOP was reasonable when publicly cornered by the St Charles videos, and has bent over backwards to be fair about correcting that. But they have done NOTHING to correct the mess in Jefferson County, and in district conventions recommended that the contested delegates from Jefferson County be seated.

Get video, whatever it takes.

You

can text if all else fails. Just send a text message to someone who is on the DP and they can relay it to the masses. That's what we did for Maine

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Bump for Mississippi

Keeping fingers crossed that you got the info you needed!!! Please send us an update when you can!

"Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid." - Ronald Reagan

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Key chain Video camera's

I had posted elsewhere about this. We can be big brother too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68DzwODDMog

........................LOOK UP............

self bump. I think this thing is cool so. I'm getting one anyway...

Invite many reps from the Foreign Presses

Ask people to send teams with audio and video

They get passes ahead of time to sit in on the process

Make sure they are Ron Paul friendly before you invite them

Many presses are owned by same as here

Small indy presses would be best

Have them send immediate copy to their home office in another nation
so it cant get "lost " here in Tampa or on an airplane going back

you van get a wrist watch with a hiden camera in it

Damn ! are we living in a James Bond World already?

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At a minimum get

At a minimum get Audio....absolute minimum last resort.

And in all likelihood they are breaking rules. Bring a printed copy and show them

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I have *heard* people do it

I have *heard* people do it stealthily anyway.

in addition to using law, spy cameras

Document everything

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Here's the relevant section

Here's the relevant section from the MSG0P Bylaws with the important part in bold. The MSG0P CANNOT ban recording in advance. There's nothing about it in their bylaws, which state that the meeting will be governed by RRoO.

HOWEVER, you MUST elect a Ron Paul supporter as the Permanent Chair, and have a 2/3 majority present who can vote in your own rules, OR have a simple majority present who can vote down any proposed rules banning recording. They CANNOT pass such a rule in advance--it has to be done after the election of the Permanent Chair, so be prepared to elect a RP Chair and immediately move to allow recording devices.

They've telegraphed their plan for corruption in advance, so be prepared for anything.


ARTICLE IV: CONVENTION
SECTION 1: A State Convention shall be held in the year 1964 and every four (4) years thereafter at a time and place to be designated by the State Executive Committee, which Convention shall appoint Delegates and Alternate Delegates to the Republican National Convention, select a State Executive Committee, select one or more slates of Presidential electors, nominate a candidate for President and Vice President of the United States if it desires, adopt a platform, promulgate a statement of principles, elect a National Committeeman and National Committeewoman and take further actions deemed proper by the Convention.

SECTION 2: The State Executive Committee shall give thirty (30) days notice of the Convention by authorizing the State Chairman to issue a Call, which Call must be published one time in a newspaper having a general circulation in the State of Mississippi, and by authorizing and directing the State Chairman to mail a copy of the Call to each member of the State Central Committee and to Chairman of each county Executive Committee, which Call shall also contain a Call for Precinct Meetings and County Conventions, and reasonable rules for conduct of the same.

SECTION 3: Delegates to the State Convention shall be apportioned and selected in the manner provided by the laws of the State of Mississippi. The officers of the State Central Committee shall be the officers of the Convention.
SECTION 4: A majority of the duly certified Delegates shall constitute a quorum and a majority of a quorum shall have power to transact any business unless herein otherwise provided, and Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised shall govern all proceedings of the Convention, unless the Convention adopts a set of Convention rules by a two-thirds (2/3) vote.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?368235-Mississip...

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Excellent!

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Bump...is there a Parliamentarian in the house???

Please help out the good folks in Mississippi!

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HA

They're citing the trouble in Oklahoma on video, but have they forgotten the trouble in Missouri for NOT allowing cameras?

The two most important days in your life are the day you are born...and the day you find out why. -Mark Twain

set up early!

put your camera under a bag in a corner somewhere while no one is looking.

It's amazing to me that the GOP establishment

admits in advance that it is planning to be SO corrupt, that it won't allow itself to be incriminated on video.

And the even more incredible thing is that our entire gov't is populated from top to bottom with these same kinds of criminals.
It's almost too horrible to contemplate.
It's time to wash the scum out of the toilet bowl.

I'd call...

I'd call some local tv stations there. They love a breaking story. If the Republican party tries to keep out the media, at least the media will report on *that*, but I doubt they can stop them.

That's our plan for the Arkansas state convention in June. If they won't allow in cameras, we're inviting the media. If the media shows up and are told they can't film, that's a story all by itself.

The two most important days in your life are the day you are born...and the day you find out why. -Mark Twain

Spy Cameras??

Get a few of those really small cameras you can hide about anywhere. What they dont see can hurt them.

I believe in Hope & Change..I Hope the government will Change
Spindale-Rutherford County-North Carolina

What they dont see can hurt them.

YESSS!

"They" hide behind closed doors and plot our destruction.
This makes a justifiable response as long as our FACES are
SMILING and we are respectful and non threatening.

Whatever it takes at this point.

There are dozens on line
here is one link

http://www.palmvid.com/content/categories/video-cameras/sub-...

" Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live. "

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Bring it to a vote: Allowing cameras

That is the answer, have a majority allow cameras, and this is to protect the people, not just Ron Paul.