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Doug Wead: Michigan Shocker! Ron Paul picks up more delegates

Warning: Despite his title this is not a feel-good story. Delegates must read!
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"There is good news and bad news. The good news comes out of Michigan. But first, the bad news, let’s get that out of the way and then have some fun.

Remember my warning that there were votes in a locked box taken from the state convention in Arizona? And that the Ron Paul victory there could be reversed if someone wanted to cheat? Well they did, and we lost it. I am gathering the facts and it is stunning, with 100 new ballots appearing out of the Romney ether.

Worse, there is evidence that the Ron Paul victory in Louisiana, a victory that even the media acknowledged and proclaimed to the world, may be reversed as well. I will give you the details Monday.

Meanwhile, there is evidence of a full scale purge of any Ron Paul delegate, from any state, to the RNC. If you are a delegate, keep your head down. They are looking for you. More on all of that this Monday. . . " (cont'd)

http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/05/19/michigan-shocker-ro...

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Judicial Committee Complaints

Go through channels and file appeals to the judicial committees in each state.

They won't be happy with rules violations, and they can make a ruling.

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Bump

If that doesn't work, find a retired judge (retired judges are more fair minded and have the respect and connections to get things done) to file a civil case and file motions for injunctions, cease and desist, etc. When the cheaters see they may lose their illegally elected delegates or get their names in the newspaper, the PTB will suddenly become reasonable. If all else fails, challenges to unseat state delegations will have to be made with the RNC.

I know this is not what you

I know this is not what you want to hear, but we need to keep delegate strength info OUT of public viewing! They will be attacking us and purging us! I know it's uplifting to boast on here, but we need to go in completely unidentified and leave with our people as delegates and not say anything until the convention in Tampa is started! It's nice to be winning, but we are becoming targets for the establishment, and if they only succeed in taking a few of us out, that may be all that it takes to change the outcome against us! Do not be revealing this info any longer! When at these conventions, do not reveal that you support Paul! Let them wonder what our numbers are, but don't tell everyone! It's not worth us losing ONE National Delegate!

I don't want to turn the other cheek!

Okay, so we know that the RNC has been cheating and has stepped up this crap even more recently. Romney is outright engaged in criminal and treasonous behavior. So, what are we going to do about it?

We can't just sit her ranting about their underhanded behavior and complaining about their crimes while taking solace in small wins here and there. What makes us think things will be better in Tampa, even if we get a lot more delegates?

No, the only way forward is to take them to court. Now that we are not spending our funds campaigning in the primaries, we should be using those funds to hire lawyers and nailing every one of these SOBs. It is the only patriotic thing to do.

We will donate our hard-earned cash to the campaign, but the campaign has to lead the legal charge. How about it Doug?

"Thus it is that in war the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won,whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory." --- Sun Tzu, The Art of War.

RƎVO⅃UTION NOW!

BEWARE

Accepting Obama because GOP is using illegal/nonethical tactics is NOT an acceptable alternative. The two parties are now one and this is what the end goal may be [re-electing Obama]. Obviously we can not accept Romney taking the Oval Office either or everything that we have worked for will be moot.

Please re-think, work harder, and look for other viable solutions.

Please come forward if you are one of the following:

- Wealthy RP supporters who can assist financially.
- Attorneys who support RP.
- Attorneys who may not support RP but believe in honesty, integrity and liberty.
- Someone who knows or can contact the above and plead for assistance.

We must utilize every available option, including legal services, or risk everything. We must address this issue as soon as possible.

Remember, we [r3VOLutio] have taken this campaign over at the grassroots level. It is now up to us to do everything that is necessary.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Like someone said down

Like someone said down below.

If delegates are what get the NOMINEE, and you screw with delegate counts, then essentially you are screwing with the election.

But some the rules before it gets down to the wire are IN HOUSE RULES.

So if the RNC/GOP makes the rules and they hate you (as a Ron Paul supporter) you can't get in the club.

See what we fight? And we're supposed to slowly influence the GOP?

HAHAHA they're more hostile to us than Obama at this point.

And we're STUCK within the Two Party system because Third Party numbers and ballots are a drop in the bucket.

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Rule 5b

if we have the majority and elect a chair, we could nullify that no?

His name is Edward Snowden

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Hear This Romney, Stealing Our Delegates Will Only Ensure That

you will not receive any votes from Ron Paul supporters or the general public once they hear about your dishonesty in this race to cheat and win at any cost. You do not deserved to be president. You are worst than Nixon!

A.Hansen

I Can't Help But Think Romney and His Camp Are Working Overtime

with the GOP to stop Ron Paul and his delegates from winning! I think Ron Paul and his campaign will do something now. They and we have worked to hard to ignore this and lose everything we have worked for. This will only make the movement stronger and more determined! Via Revolution!!!

A.Hansen

I'm really confused

Its like hey guys, Great news, RP is winning all these delegates but the RNC is deleting them.

If delegates are who pick the nominees then how can this not be considered vote tampering?????

I'm totally for Scorched

I'm totally for Scorched Earth policy but at what price?

I think we should start making political threats as a movement against the GOP. Not sanctioned by the campaign or Ron Paul so they can keep their nose clean.

But to vote against all GOP would mean hand Obama 4 more years and totally NUKE the GOP Party. Or abstain altogether, and vote N.O.T.A.

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You think Romney would be

You think Romney would be better than Obama? Think again.

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"Fully half the quotations found on the internet are either mis-attributed, or outright fabrications." - Abraham Lincoln

I would rather have a lame

I would rather have a lame duck in office, "Obama" and then have us put in more liberty minded Congressmen and Senators that will help shut down Obama, "which will look good to people in the Rep party for those liberty minded Congressmen and Senators" than to have Romney in there and have the liberty minded elected leaders shut him down and have the Rep party trying to denounce them... We all know there is no difference between Obama and Romney but the party(s) will try anything to kill liberty and the people who back it...!

The Republican party is now our party weather they like it or not...!!!!!!!!!!!

We can rename it the "used to be your party but now it's ours"...! Lol...

This post...

...in my opinion is EXACTLY what we should be saying and doing.

Yes, it's extreme.

And it would hand nearly everything over to the Dems for 2-4 years, and they could cause a lot of damage in that time.
No doubt.

But I'm dubious at this point that the GOP would be any better, and I'm tired of being told to "be afraid of Obama, so vote for the GOP criminal" while they stick it up our wazoo like they are doing.

I think maybe it's time to call their bluff, stop being scared, and decimate one of the major parties right down to the scorched earth, because we mean business and we "ain't skeered".

If we move into the hollowed-out dead shell of the GOP and get into positions with candidates, the overflowing hate for Obama and the Dems will be so huge by then, that we'll be a shoo-in with our candidates at the earliest time possible.

It's a bold move, with risk.
But it might just be worth it.

My personal thoughts are to hold that in our back pocket until after the Convention. If they give us the screw-job at the convention, we have have a way to return the favor at the voting both.
And right away, this year in November, too!
They won't get away with it this time.

I know this sounds crazy,

I know this sounds crazy, don't shoot the messenger, but we have to realize Scorched Earth means some wacky unheard of stuff, as in:

1) All votes to Obama from our side, as a "you wanna shut us out, we're out...how about this" move.

2) N.O.T.A. suck away votes and abstain

3) Last minute third party bid.

Or we can have the delegates in the states with shenanigans storm the RNC offices and Chairs and demand justice.

What's really bad about all this is that there's a war between us and Romneybots...while Obama and Co. are sitting back laughing. I'm all for unity against Obama but at what cost. Lose everything we work for, all dignity, all power, all votes because behind the scenes the GOP is screwing us?

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I'm not in charge of anything.

I'm just sayin' that we have the option.

I personally think that Romney is just as bad or worse than Obama, no matter how bad Obama is.
I'm not about to start deciding which turd smells better. They're both sh!t.
And we don't have to vote for Obama. Just voting for anybody else would ensure a Romney loss. We don't have to compromise our principles and vote for an evil hack like Obama. I wouldn't do that.

The issue is impact. This option would give a LOT of impact.
I don't know if it's the best option, but it's an option that would REALLY shake things up.

I agree, I feel Romney would

I agree, I feel Romney would be a tad worse, but is it "Sh!t Sandwich" or "Diarrhea Sandwich"? True

And none of us are in charge, we ALL are. We work as a movement, and people need to know if Ron Paul is thrown out or cheated we're independent contractors and loose us off our leash we'll tear their faces off politically.

Ron Paul is too good of a man and probably didn't imagine THIS level of dirty tricks. And we don't play dirty either, we're good people.

I'm pissed at the GOP/RNC right now. I need to relax.

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N.O.T.A???

Sorry. New to this.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin

NOTA is

None Of The Above

Thanks.

That is for me too then.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin

There is enough video evidence

Put all the evidence together in one package. Send it where it needs to go.

Why wait for the Campaign?

Well,

as a last ditch retaliation, in the event that they freeze us out of everything, we can vote out every Republican from Presidential candidate to every incumbent and challenger in every race, right down to dog catcher in every state, county, city, and town in the entire United States.

After there is practically no GOP left in office anywhere, we can move in and take over, and have our candidates ready and in place for 2014 and 2016.

Total scorched earth policy.

Count me in.

Unless of course the economy bouncing off the bottom of the chart doesn't rattle me into another state. Then I will get to start all over.

Otherwise, I am looking to start getting involved locally. Ideas where to begin anyone?

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin

Great idea

Romney coming in 3rd place at 10% in the general election would be sweet.

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Hopefully by Monday

The campaign will have some sort of gameplan going forward to contest this.

just like my slogan says

Ron Paul vs. Big Brother 2012

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We have to make a public scene outside the GOP's offices

Peaceful rally, but a big one, call in the press and all. The people must stop the corruption. Unbelievable cheating. They need their mugshots on posters. We must have won AZ. These stories need to go nationwide on local tv channels.

I disagree.

Attend your town party meetings, read their county and state rules. Read the national party rules and platform.

Hold events consistently that you announce at their meetings. Let them figure out that we are the Republicans.

I like your idea better. It

I like your idea better. It seems to be the only way to fix the GOP is to become the GOP. It is an uphill battle but really we are already making great progress.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin