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The Less-Well-Known Ron Paul Victory in Georgia

While all of the attention is on Minnesota's brilliant Ron Paul victory, maybe few people know about the battle which took place at the Georgia state GOP convention on Saturday.

They had no shining victory, winning a majority of Paul-devoted delegates to the RNC. The establishment slate was elected.

They had no coup, placing their chosen leaders in top ranking GOP positions. The expected establishment national chairman and woman were elected.

They went into the fight without knowing the odds, having no clue what the outcome might be, and only guessing what might be thrown up against them.

But there were many bright moments of victory in the battle!

Most notable was the courageous and tireless effort of hundreds of liberty-loving delegates, many of whom came from several hours away, all of whom gave time, effort and expense for the cause. Though I never received a final count of known Ron Paul supporting delegates, I estimate that we had 35-40% of over 1800* delegates. (Many Paul-supporting alternates who should have moved up to fill the empty delegate spots were not allowed to do so by their counties, and the number would likely have been somewhat larger if they had.)

These delegates sat through hours of establishment speakers' rhetoric (which included an address by Newt Gingrich), enduring condescending and patronizing assurances that "we are all here with the same goal, to send President Obama back to Chicago" and warnings that if we do not vote for the "presumptive nominee", then we have most certainly aided the re-election of President Obama.

They endured jeers, murmured speculations as to what their intentions were, insinuations that they were part of some zombie hive-mind Borg-like organization, and the typical bullying that follows any liberty-minded activist.

They fought the best they could, with rallying floor speeches, rebuffs against the establishment's attempts to squelch their efforts, and compelling appeals to equity and justice. There were myriad moments of inspiration from these delegates, contrasted by an almost complete lack of inspiration from the banal rhetoric of the establishment.

Regardless, through all of this, and knowing that it was entirely possible that the worst case scenario (in which they gained no tangible victory) might occur, they remained stalwart in support of American liberty and its champion, Ron Paul.

These hundreds of men and women should be commended for their valiant effort against the odds.

Incidentally, at one point in the convention, a group of Romney supporters were overheard musing about the Ron Paul crowd and what to make of them. One of the group speculated that, though the Tea Party members had stirred things up a few years ago, they had eventually been "assimilated" into the party, and presumably the Ron Paul supporters would too.

If this is any indication of what the majority of state GOP members think, I believe they are in for a rude awakening. Ron Paul supporters don't compromise with those who militate against liberty.

We are not going away. We are here for the long haul, and are even more motivated because we were shut out of participation at our district and state conventions. We are going to change the party from the inside out, and sooner or later it will belong to us completely.

Though a victory was not won on the Georgia State Convention floor, we continue to be victorious in our motivation and organization, the connections and network we're forming with each other, our distaste for party politics-as-usual, and our renewed desire to change the party from within (which is, ironically, fueled by their efforts to shut us out at every step.)

We are not going away. We are determined to be victorious in the Georgia GOP - today, tomorrow, and long into the future.

(A few corrections have been made to numbers, etc. Thanks to the people who pointed them out, and if you have any others, let me know.)



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Bingo!

Most people don't know that the Constitution clearly defines how many people one representative is allowed to represent, or that the states are suppose to elect their Senators, not the people. The 17th was passed in 1913, simply so the states would not fight the Federal Reserve.

This is one of the best posts....

I have ever read on the Daily Paul.

"We are not going away. We are here for the long haul, and are even more motivated [...] to change the party from the inside out, and sooner or later it will belong to us completely."

Outstanding!

THIS is how we win.
NOT by coming together every four years and then handing the party back to the neocons.

Thank you for your dedication.

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The Virtual Conspiracy

This sounds like our county convention, they

segregated us and objectified us, they herded us like cattle...lousy experience. Stay involved become members, it takes a little time, but you can vote all these people out. This hurts, I know, but at our state convention we did fabulous and they were the people crying. Crying because they do not understand we are fighting for them. Some day maybe they will. We voted out our national comittee woman and man, we voted in electors and 22 out of 28 delegates. We have one county with 111 out of 140, now they want to put a "shadow Party" in place, death of the Republic they need to know this!!

I watched it on Ustream and

I watched it on Ustream and it was 41% RP and 59% establishment based on the vote of the committeeman. I was encouaged to find that there exists a 41% Liberty vote in the evangelical, warmongering, neo-con Newt state. Interesting that even though the establishment had 59% and could have easily pushed the "preferred slate" through without violating the rules, they neverless violated the rules and put their "Romney seats" in jeopardy at Tampa.

I was disappointed that there was no RP committeewoman on the ballot.

I was thrilled to see that we picked up a few in VT and several in MI which were not expected. MN got revenge for last time. VA is throwing out the old GOP.

I believe they called the

I believe they called the question (or some other parliamentary trickery) before RP folks could nominate a candidate for national committeewoman.

NON CONCUPISCES

Thank you Georgia

You've only just begun. We got knocked around in AZ too. But this weekend, we were out and building more PCs for the upcoming votes for offices in the AzGop.

Go get em.

www.BecomeAPC.com here is your model.

Faceoff - establishment & Paul backers on convention

Below is a link to a blog from GAGOP party members as well as Ron Paul supporters - reactions from different sides to what went on in the convention. Tell us what you think....

http://www.peachpundit.com/2012/05/19/post-ga-gop-convention...

I know there is 1000 Liberty Lovers in Georgia

Just get them all to be delegates next time, and you own it, the GOP is yours.

Meanwhile, they are coming for your voting mind. Don't let them. Here is how.

http://www.dailypaul.com/235018/the-supreme-court-election-t...

treg

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The only fools...

The only fools are those afraid to look foolish. You did win, resistance is victory.

peAce

Liberty = Responsibility

Does anyone have any links to the Convention?

Looking for videos of our people giving speeches! Want to seem them fighting the good fight in the neo-con/theo-con wilderness!

NDAA resolution and ammendment

The video is rough but the audio is what is important. There was no chance they would let this stand because it would prevent endorsement of Romney and possibly others. What it did do was make an important statement of the Hippocrocy of of the party and their weakness by not demanding representation of not only the people but even the republican party.

In a nutshell, there was a resolution offered by the GOP to appose NDAA. A motion for amendment was raised to not allow endorsement of a candidate that supported NDAA and approved by majority vote.

Once the GOP realized this may preclude them from endorsing Romney they used realized they had to kill it. They did this by having the committee withdraw the resolution, which effectively withdrew the amendment as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGzX6LcOmtY

I commend the Paul Supporters in Georgia and Vermont

Who fought against a mountain of odds and spent hours listening to the bullshit to help the cause. I want to thank you all personally. I and my family are traveling across the country stumping for Ron Paul all summer with a large Ron Paul 2012 Decal on the back of my towed vehicle. and passing out super brochures. I know people like you will never give up and that is what it will take we have a country to save.

We are proud of you GA

Keep working. You know what you must do for next time around. Do not stop after this election cycle is over. You must multiply. This time 30% next time 80%. Keep fighting and bring more people out of their ignorance.

It's interesting you chose the word "multiply"...

...as I was just saying after listening to TMOT say it's about "numbers" that the liberty movement needs to have more babies!

Of course, we need to spread the message to people already here but if liberty loving Americans really want to win this battle in the long run, decent people need to obey God and reproduce themselves.

Exodus Chapter 1 verses 8-12 reads: "8 Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. 9 And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we: 10 Come on , let us deal wisely with them; lest they MULTIPLY , and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out ANY WAR, they join also unto our enemies , and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land. 11 Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses. 12 BUT THE MORE THEY AFFLICTED THEM THE MORE THEY MULTIPLIED AND GREW. And they were grieved because of the children of Israel.

So in the next four years there is something every married couple can do for the cause of liberty -have more babies and keep them out of the government school system, teaching them everything good you can and for believers, teaching your children about the Jesus of the Bible(not man's version.) THAT is our best hope of a brighter future along with some of y'all relocating to Georgia.

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
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Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
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"I am the door." -Jesus Christ

People In GA Are A Joke! Hear me out...

I saw on the live stream 90% of the people cheering when someone mentioned how bad NDAA was and then someone wanted an amendment in that said if any of the politicians we support support NDAA we will not vote them in or support them. The crowd went nuts again!

Then some lady with a THICK GA accent stood up on the mic and said, "We can't keep this amendment it could ruin our entire party's chances for success (Romney likes NDAA yet stupid crowd did not know this seems like til old lady stood up!).

Next the commission decides to just drop the amendment and rush new things on the table to talk about and business we on with make RP people doing their job and kept bringing it up. Too bad the establishment wanted nothing to do with that.

So You Romney people like to support your guy no matter what even if he does something so bad like support NDAA and you agree to not support any candidate who supports NDAA until you hear Romney supports it? That's messed up. We are dealing with a bunch of Pussi*s. No spine to stand for what they believe.

At least Ron Paul people have the Guts to speak their mind loud and proud and show liberty and freedom to the masses who support the same thing unless their "Hero" thinks otherwise. Garbage.

That lady with the thick accent...

...was probably Debbie Dooley, national coordinator of the Tea Party Patriots:

http://www.teapartypatriots.org/speakers-bureau/debbie-dooley/

Shows you where the Tea Party stands in Georgia.

And yes, their focus is on winning, not on principles. You could nominate a coprolite (look it up) as the candidate and they would support the nomination if they thought it would "send Obama back to Chicago."

As we always told our kids

... if the visible result is the only thing that determines success... then Mother Theresa of Calcutta was a miserable failure.

From the "world's" perspective...she never overturned a corrupt government. She never stopped a war. She never eliminated poverty. She simply kept doing the right thing, each and every day, as she tried to save JUST ONE person amid the thousands and thousands of dying and starving in the streets.

But by doing her best each and every day, and never waivering in her mission, she lived her life as a "success", and inspired the world!

Thomas Jefferson: “Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever."

Viva La Revolucion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaTNf4YhEs

Did she inspire the world...

or was her icon status created or helped along by the MSM and others who favor Roman Catholicism?

I am for peace: but when I speak, they are for war. Ps 120:7
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Better to be divided by truth than united in error.
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"I am the door." -Jesus Christ

Thank You Georgia!

Thank you fellow patriots in Georgia for your efforts for Freedom! This is not about winning or losing, this is about staying vigilant and never quitting...for that is when they do win!

Bump from Tx

Bump from Tx

"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." -Benjamin Franklin

Little Elm, Tx

Seriously

Never give up! And most importantly this DOES NOT END WITH RON PAUL. He was only the beginning. I am in this for the long haul as well in Arizona. If you are aware their is a problem then you have an obligation to do something about it. I personally would rather go back to being lazy and indifferent but that CANNOT happen. I know the problem and now will become a Precinct Committeemen to ensure a different direction for the Arizona GOP. Adapt or die. Remember this is all for liberty and the Constitution. Never for a party. And to all you libertarians out their I understand your discontent with the GOP and believe me I would love nothing more than to switch to a libertarian. But we will amplify our efforts a hundred times over in the GOP. If this is about the Constitution then who cares if your a republican, democrat, or green party member. It is only a meaningless title. Get involved, stay involved and imagine a 50 state revolution! It can be done. For liberty!

For Liberty!

Right on!

One of the things that really inspired me this weekend was that, while there were a lot of people who were hurt and angry and felt trampled upon, they were full of hope and fight for the future. And these people are YOUNG! I mean, I'm sorta young, but I mean people in their early 20s who are vowing to fight in the long haul! We're going to outlive most of the sad people who buy the establishment crap, and we're not limiting ourselves to one man, but to a movement.

They think it's over after Ron Paul is gone, but it's far from over!

Nonetheless:

RON PAUL 2012!!

Don't Compromise

"Ron Paul supporters don't compromise with those who militate against liberty."

Wow! Exactly right! Hear those words patriots.

Give me Liberty!!!
Patrick Henry Lives!

Awesome Georgia. Keep going!

Thanks to all the Georgia

Thanks to all the Georgia patriots who roughed it out in spite of all the brain dead, country destroying, Georgian GOP.

The REAL Victory

The REAL victory in Georgia is all those liberty activists who are now going to be flooding the Republican party. This fight goes way beyond what happens in November 2012, and we are setting ourselves up for much bigger victories in the future. This is what a real r3VOLution is about!!!!!
Go Georgia!!!!!

Bravo!!!

Thank You!!!!

It's time! Rand Paul 2016!

"Truth, Justice, and the American Way!"

Great job!!

Resistance is victory!

Did they have the majority?

The question is: Did our side have the majority? Given this is Newt's state, it would be no surprise if we did not. Newt hasn't been as bad for his Georgia as Romney was for Massachusetts.

If we didn't, it's also no surprise that the GOP establishment was able to do to us what we're doing to them in other states. The old guard might have done it in a more petty way, playing fast-and-loose with the rules and rubbing our noses in it. But we'd have lost it anyhow.

If the Paul people DID have the majority the establishment's cheating becomes significant.

Either way we should have people with major-league parliamentary skills at any of these meetings, to insure we have the best possible chance to prevail against dirty tricks.

= = = =
"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

No, we didn't have a majority.

On votes requiring 2/3, the chairman ruled we had less than 1/3. I'm not so sure about that. From where I sat, it looked like we had at least that, but calls for division were blocked, so we never got an accurate count. We certainly did not have 50% or else Alex Johnson would be on his way to the RNC.