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5/20/12 Peter Thiel on 60 Minutes: Ron Paul Worth Every Cent of Investment

They've split the whole interview up into bits and pieces; I couldn't find a youtube of the whole interview. Here's the Ron Paul bit...

http://youtu.be/6YnwGkLpgfQ




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SteveMT's picture

Peter Thiel unloads $20.1M of Facebook shares. Good!

Thiel is a smart guy to get out. Ron Paul could use some more Super PAC money after Tampa!

Aug 20, 2012
Facebook insider Thiel sells 20.1 million shares

An early Facebook investor has taken advantage of "unlocked" shares for insiders and sold more than 20 million shares of the social media giant, a report says.

Peter Thiel, also a director at Facebook, sold most of his stake in the company, Bloomberg News reports.

The hedge fund manager and venture capitalist sold about 20.1 million of his 27.9 million shares on Aug. 16 and Aug. 17, according to Bloomberg News, which cited a filing with the SEC.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/technologylive/post/...

Thiel isn't smart to cozy up next to the likes of Elton Musk..

Thanks for your show of support for Ron Paul Sir Thiel, but no thanks to everything else you endorse.

Elton Musk is nearly the legalized version of Dirty Harry. Lets hope Thiel wises up and drops Bilderberg like a bad flu on the rocks.

Peter Thiel on Bilderberger Steering Committee

"Bilderberg is governed by a Steering Committee which designates a Chairman"

USA Thiel, Peter A. President, Clarium Capital/Thiel Capital

http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/governance.html

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odcGSi286a4&feature=plcp&cont...

ITS OFFICIAL RON PAUL IS ASSOCIATED WITH BILDERBERG

TAKE THAT CONSPIRACY THEORISTS :)

Yelling doesn't make your case....

real evidence does.

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

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GopBlackList, could you knock off the all caps please.

Thanks.

There is NO REASON TO YELL...

Besides, it has always been frowned upon around here.

See: http://www.dailypaul.com/guide

Notes on Peter Theil

Please, anyone, consider reading:

PayPal Wars

Now, please, consider a full accounting concerning these suspects of Legal Crime, if that is the idea when measuring the connection to The Bildiberger Group or anything else for that matter.

Three of the people involved in starting PayPal included the author of that book linked above, and Peter Theil, and Elon Musk, others were involved.

The copy I had of PayPal was loaned out and so I'd have to get a copy to find the relevant quotes, instead the challenge here is for anyone, please, get a copy and start reading it.

Those people, including those 3 people, invented a new form of money, and they knew what that meant, that it would be competition for The Dollar Hegemony. In the book the author spelled it out fairly well.

Since selling PayPal Peter Theil is obviously associating with some very powerful people who are connected to some very bad people, so naturally, a question arises concerning the true nature of the connection.

What does Peter Theil intend to do so far?

Offshore Utopia

"Sealand issues its own currency..."

OK, so, if The Dollar Hegemony will be faced with a competitor in the business of dominating the world with a single Legal Money, what happens?

Ask Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, or Hugo Chavez what happens if you try to compete with The Dollar Hegemony?

Ask this guy:

John Perkins (Confessions of an Economic Hit Man)

The most Powerful Legal Criminals will work to get other powerful people on their side, before resorting to deceit, threats of violence, and acts of torturous, terrifying, horrible, violence upon the innocent, or the guilty, because they don't care about anything other than keeping their gravy train rolling.

If you are interested (as in Legal Monopoly banking interest) in this "story" concerning what Peter Theil is doing, then, please consider what the other guy from PayPal Wars is now doing.

Who is Elon Musk?

These guys started out with a few guys running a computer program. They went to other people to get loads of cash (FRN receipts of debt) to start up PayPal. Their sales pitches must have been the stuff of legend.

Hey, I've got a deal for you, how about loaning me a few million?

For what?

A computer program.

Seriously?

After selling PayPal (after PayPal Wars) the group split up, for some reason, or more than one reason. Peter Theil took his money and ran one way. Elon Musk took his share of the money, fraudulent debt notes, and went his way.

Elon Musk produced the first production electric cars sold in America, has plans to start selling many more, less expensive electric cars.

Tesla Motors: California based Automobile Manufacturer in direct competition with the entire world in the production of Electric Automobiles, paying high wages, paying high taxes, and paying all regulation costs in the most famous State that charges the most regulation costs, and Tesla Motors is still competitive.

You can begin to explain that away as "subsidy" but you may want to dig a little deeper before you jerk your knee in that way - I have (dug a little deeper on this subject).

Elon Musk also installs Solar Panels.

SolarCity

The point here is to make an accurate accounting of the facts.

If there existed, in this Country, an example of an effective Capitalist, or an effective Entrepreneur (if you don't like the word capitalist due to the close association between capitalists and fascists), then would you be able to see one if one bit the nose on your face?

How about a competitive company winning competitive bids to produce less costly and higher quality rocket engines to replace the wasteful bureaucratic nightmare that NASA has become in meeting that demand for Space Exploration, Science, and Developments beyond this small planet?

SolarCity

SpaceX

These guys are not Oprah, or Dr. Phil.

What are they actually doing?

Look at this interview PLEASE:

Listen Carefully

In particular, please, look at the expression of the well paid Presstitute as he can barely manage to report, as a question, "you are self taught?", note the look of incredulity.

"I got my license to sell my soul, reporting official lies to perpetuate Legal Crime, so I have "authority", how can you, a mere minion, be "self taught"!? BALDERDASH!"

"Someone get me my conspiracy theorist drone, we have a target!"

"Ahhh, but, we need these rockets, for now."

"Oh, well, put him down on the list, and isn't there a way we can make sure he still knows who butters his bread?"

Note: My quotes are illustrative, not verbatim - of course.

How about the palpable expression of GLEE as the official organ for the official lies questions the struggling, competitive, self-taught, entrepreneur about those failures of those 3 first rockets?

Pompous asses are very hard to watch, for me, as I know very well the cost of their censures of things that matter to human life on earth, with few exceptions those high paid liars keep their victims stupefied, within their power to do so, but, some stories benefit everyone with very, very, very few exceptions.

How many failures, Edison, you loser, you twit, are you counting now in this ridiculous quest for the light bulb, made by a nobody without the proper credentials, HAH!

FAILURE

Look at the FAILURE, look there, right there, hah, hah, hah, a FAILURE.

Edison tried how many times to find a more effective filament for a working light bulb?

"When Thomas Edison was interviewed by a young reporter who boldly asked Mr. Edison if he felt like a failure and if he thought he should just give up by now. Perplexed, Edison replied, "Young man, why would I feel like a failure? And why would I ever give up? I now know definitively over 9,000 ways that an electric light bulb will not work. Success is almost in my grasp." And shortly after that, and over 10,000 attempts, Edison invented the light bulb."

Is that true, or not true, who reports the truth these days, and is it as rare as trying to find the right stuff to put in a light bulb?

Now, and again please, note at the end when the Presstitute, to me, looks like a sociopath crushing a small animal under his immense jack boot, watching with climactic euphoria, as Elon Musk is nearly brought to tears as his "competitors" are working diligently to pull the rug out of his work to help mankind survive.

OHHHH Joe, you may say, you are imagining things.

OK, granted, I have the power of imagination. I have a competitive viewpoint. You have one too.

Which one is truer?

You tell me why a few Legal Criminals can double the money supply in 2008, and spend that money as they wish, without any official questioning as to why the did it, and what they bought with AS MUCH POWER TO PURCHASE AS EVERYONE ELSE COMBINED?

A few good men, the story goes, can legally write themselves a check for as many legal dollars as everyone else combined, doing that in 2008, and where does Elon Musk have to go to get investment capital to Start-Up and run viable, competitive, businesses?

How much interest does Elon Musk have to pay, assuming that Elon Musk, or anyone else, can get the Power needed to Purchase the things required to Start UP and RUN a competitive business in our world, on Earth, today?

The Federal Reserve is paid Interest, for doing nothing but lying well, and everyone else has to pay how much for getting the same stuff as that stuff that The Federal Reserve gets for free?

I'm the conspiracy theorist?

I'm the stupid one?

I'm the one who needs to get voted down on this forum?

Seriously?

Joe

reedr3v's picture

You sure have a lot of opinions about

Elon Musk. Even going the stretch and assuming your suspicions had some believable justification, guilt by association is not more significant than clear, virtuous actions. Do you live and breathe solely for conspiracy stories?

Revised quetions, revised answers?

"Elon Musk. Even going the stretch and assuming your suspicions had some believable justification, guilt by association is not more significant than clear, virtuous actions. Do you live and breathe solely for conspiracy stories?"

If an account is accurately measurable then more than one person can measure it and arrive at the same measure.

Is that true or not?

Joe

Competitive viewpoints

"Elon Musk. Do you live and breathe solely for conspiracy stories?"

My competitive viewpoint can be summed up in one sentence. Your question by comparison is, in my opinion, a very narrow viewpoint and therefore less competitive.

My competitive viewpoint in one sentence:

Power produced into oversupply will reduced the price of power while purchasing power increases because power reduces the cost of production.

I live because I can manage, somehow, to keep the flow of power flowing my way. Other people do the same thing. Some people keep the power flowing their way by resorting to deception, or fraud, and those people are destructive by that measure.

When the air we all breath is being poisoned as I now breath, with examples abounding, such as the ongoing example in Fukushima, a particularly useful example for illustrating the point, when that goes on, and on, perpetually, without limits placed on such things, then another Planet capable of supporting life may be worth reaching.

What do you think?

Joe

reedr3v's picture

I think your "one sentence" was mangled and

incomprehensible.

You have an opinion.

In fact:

At one point in my life I was invited to be a part of an ongoing discussion with Howard Bloom.

I offered to Howard Bloom the same sentence that you find to be mangled and incomprehensible.

Howard Bloom's opinion was expressed in a more positive response, something along the lines of "that is right".

What have you done so far with the power you have, and your power to comprehend English?

Howard Bloom has written at least 3 books so far as such:

The Global Brain

The Lucifer Principle

The Genius of The Beast

If Howard Bloom can understand the sentence, and confirm it's validity, why can't you?

Joe

reedr3v's picture

Perhaps Bloom had the advantage of reading

your sentence in context. Out of context I stand by my opinion. You are free to ignore me, a nobody. But appeals to intellectual "authority" do not impress me. And since you enjoy wordplay that seems empty to me, let's not clutter this thread with our back-and-forth replies to no productive end.

Common Tactics shared by all the Dictators

This tactic is called the Parthian Arrow, or the Partian shot.

You stab once more as you retreat, and you attempt to close the door behind you.

This Topic on this Forum is very valuable and worthy of reasoned discussion, including cases where one forum member attacks another forum member personally, by resorting to such political dirty tricks as you have so far demonstrated.

The topic remains to be worthy of discussion.

In context of POWER, which is the fruit of economic and political labor, the Topic involves the POWER of legal money flowing from a former member of PayPal, a person named Peter Theil, and there are questions concerning how did this person get his power, and does that power constitute a black mark, or discredit, or loss of political power, accounted to Ron Paul, by that connection.

My point was to point out that Peter Thiel may be perfectly capable of using the power he has to produce more power, an abundant amount of power, even without any help by any criminals with false badges, as the link offered suggests, the person of Peter Theil is one of the few people who invent, produce, and maintain competitive forms of money.

What does Ron Paul say about inventing, producing, and maintaining competitive forms of money?

Lew Rockwell published words by Ron Paul today, on that very subject and I can quote those words:

"The only viable solution is to get government out of the money business permanently. The way to bring this about is through currency competition: allow parallel currencies to circulate without receiving any special recognition or favor from the government. Fiat paper monetary standards throughout history have always collapsed due to their inflationary nature, and our current fiat paper standard will be no different."

Derailing, discrediting, or otherwise distorting my contributions on this forum, by resorting to deceit, name calling, abusive language targeting me, is exemplified in your products, the products that you have invented, you have published, and you are now maintaining.

Please stop abusing this forum in your crusade to attack me personally. I do not appreciate it, and it is against the rules.

Joe

reedr3v's picture

You are pretty good at personal attacks yourself;

I don't intimidate easily. Enjoy your conspiracy mindset.

Opportunity

This Topic is worth a lot to me because the subject matter has to to with transfers of economic power and political power.

The person Peter Thiel has been associated with a known group of very bad people known to be bad because of things that they do, and all those bad things are well documented, and all those bad things are done by those people who are connected to Peter Theil in a specific way.

Now Peter Theil is connected to Ron Paul.

What does any of that have to do with one forum member sharing his opinion that another forum member has a "conspiracy mindset"?

What the hell is a "conspiracy mindset"?

Dictators use ambiguity to falsely associate bad things with good things, and that goal has two parts as such:

1.
The good things tend to look less good, tarnished, when good things are falsely connected to bad things.

2.
The bad things tend to look less bad, hidden, when bad things are falsely connected to good things.

Knowing better is probably a good idea.

Joe

Bilderberger Peter thiel

Since he is a member of the bilderberg steering committee:
http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/governance.html

I hate this guy. I am thinking he is trying to co-opt the liberty movement.

http://www.infowars.com/bilderberg-technocrats-hacking-u-s-e...

Here is information of peter thiel playing a role in hijacking social movements

Remember, Alex Jones has said

Remember, Alex Jones has said this himself that within the elites who attend these meetings, they don't all agree!

There's no way all these rich egomaniacs believe in one ideology. I'm sure there are more disagreements than agreements within these groups.

Peter might just be the real deal.

Anybody sufficiently rich, or

Anybody sufficiently rich, or sufficiently high up in politics, is bound to be invited to a Bilderburg meeting. Margaret Thatcher was, and she was appalled at some of the views expressed there.

So cut Thiel some slack.

Margaret Thatcher later turned to a communist. Do we need them?

Far as I'm concerned no we do not need anyone in Bilderberg, given their obvious anti-freedom agenda.

Elton Musk is a slavic, soviet line communist.

I thank Thiel for his support of Dr. Paul, but share no interest in the rest of the company he keeps.

Thanks but no thanks.

Remember

That Peter also set up Facebook, a giant NSA database. Also, there is a plausible reason why he is helping us. He wants to study the 'Ron Paul R3volution" in order to create a similar movement later on that serves the elite.

He does not associate himself with the Mises guys (who I think are for the most part the 'good guys'). Even John Stossel now associates with the Mises folks.

We will see though. Lets just say, I hope I am proven wrong.

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May the LORD lift up His face unto you and give you peace
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Come on...

His money ought to be very appreciated. The only thing that's keeping the r3volution from taking over, is lack of money to spread the message.

60 Minutes of Disinformation

Apparently their marketing department decided to not use the whole title of the show.

Morley Safer's questions are unbelievably moronic -- as in I suspect he's intentionally trying to deceive his viewers who lack sufficient attention span to notice. He literally went directly from one question where he is talking about how Thiel has spent $2.5 million towards this cause, to his next question saying Thiel should put his money where is mouth is. And having said advancing the cause of liberty is "flushing money down the drain", Safer in another segment takes great exception with Thiel pointing out that many people are wasting money on very expensive college degrees in the current education bubble (and they give airtime to some nobody douchebag to call Thiel crazy for thinking anyone can succeed without such -- IIRC at one point the douche even claimed we had the best education available). And in another segment Safer uses the word "utopian" to dismiss Thiel's vision of a free society.

Morley Safer and his comrades have been bashing individual liberty and individual responsibility for a long time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMTDaVpBPR0

What do you expect

from lamestream media. That's why I got rid of cable TV over a year ago.

This guy

is the freakin' man! Made this old dude look like an idiot, what a great answer to a ridiculous question.

The interviewer didn't get

The interviewer didn't get it. Peter wasn't trying to buy Ron Paul in order to get political favors from him later. The old media...

"Where liberty is, there is my country." -Benjamin Franklin

Morley Safer

The "interviewer" is an icon to your grandparents.

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Ok

Just letting us know, or what is your point?

"Where liberty is, there is my country." -Benjamin Franklin

Hahaha

The guy is still trying to figure out how Peter plans to get favors from RP if it doesn't look like he will win, poor man is probably still up thinkin' about it.

..well..just that much is

..well..just that much is pretty darned powerful, if ya ask me..