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I just came around to Dr. Paul's position on foreign aid

I now actually support the good doctor on most of his policies. However, when I first followed him, there were many I disagreed with. But over time I've read up on each subject and come around to his position, seeing so clearly how it fits in with all his other positions.

I always considered foreign aid somewhat of a necessity. However, after reading a new chapter in my textbook (I'm studying business, this subject is specifically "Transnational Management"), it points out the massive failure of foreign aid in helping developing countries. Here are the paragraphs that brought me around to Dr. Paul's position, which is essentially: Stop foreign aid, open up the markets, serve as an example and encourage others to open their markets.

Given the extent of global poverty and the lack of clear significant progress in reducing it, there is a growing view that perhaps it is time to radically rethink an approach that relied so heavily on government-funded aid programs. William Easterly, a former research economist at the World Bank, points out that after $2.3 trillion of aid has flowed from developed countries to developing countries over the past five decades, it is clear that the West's model of development has failed. He argues that, just like the old colonialist model, a large portion of foreign aid takes a paternalistic view, in that it defines both the problems and the solutions and provides for neither accountability nor feedback. As a result, for example, over the past 25 years, $5 billion of internationally funded aid has been spent on a publicly owned steel mill in Nigeria that has yet to produce any steel.

In contrast, the outstanding success stories such as India and China have been achieved by unleashing the power of their market economies rather than through massive aid programs. In what the World Bank has called this "the greatest poverty reduction program in human history," hundreds of millions of people have moved out of poverty during the past 25 years. In large part, this amazing transformation has been due to the actions of many MNEs (multi-national enterprises) that, following the announcement of China's open-door policy in 1979, 300,000 foreign enterprises have been approved, and by 2008 had invested $870 billion in that rapidly developing country. Included in that total are 490 of the world's top 500 companies. In addition to helping China, their investments are now having a significant economic impact on these firms which sent almost $300 billion in profits out of China in the period from 1990 to 2007. Such a win-win consequence is due to one undeniable reality: The faster the poor gain wealth, the faster they become customers."

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Glad to hear the enzymes are

Glad to hear the enzymes are digesting more of the red pill. Welcome to a more onboard awakeness.

Blessed are the peacemakers

Has anyone ever thought about this?

Are the worlds resources limitless? If everyone in the world consumed at the level that America did, wouldn't something have to give? By doing business with China and waking up that dragon, have we sorta opened up a pantora's box in some sense?


When oil was discovered and exploited the only product that came out of it was kerosene for the lamps. The rest was thrown away.

Today oil is the source of all kinds of fuels but also pharmaceuticals and plastics. The difference is technology. Add to this the fact that many inventions have been suppressed and one might imagine a world that is fully efficient with every molecule of every element being utilised for some purpose.

At the moment we are using uranium to produce energy but that means producing deadly radiation and radioactive materials as side effects and by-products. The reason for this is that the military industrial complex wants these products to make their bombs. There are better ways to generate clean energy but they are being suppressed.

When peace eventually comes to the world, when the warmongers have been eliminated and the pursuit of happiness is once more recognised as being the quest for true wisdom then we shall have less need for useless stuff and the technologies to use everything efficiently will be developed. There will be a radical transformation in how we view the world and the meaning of life on this planet.

The idea that the Earth is over-populated and that we are consuming too much is a meme created by the oligarchs to justify eugenics and severe restrictions on all kinds of natural produce in favour of manufactured foods. Once they have been removed and their death wish has been eliminated from the mind-sphere then the true liberation of the human spirit can ensue.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)


2.3 trillion. -____-


Welcome to fully waking up and realizing the truth, all dr paul's policies are correct and we are taking the republican party back from these tranny for the good of America and Constitution.

One observation on throwing money at a problem.

In the early 1980's I worked as a volunteer for World Vision. The accepted fact at that time was that 12,000 children were dying every day due to malnutrition and curable disease. The budget for World Vision Canada was about $12 million.

In the first decade of the 21st. century I read that there were now 35,000 children dying from malnutrition and curable disease. The annual budget for World Vision Canada had grown commensurately to $35 million.

One conclusion that one could draw from these facts is that the more money you spend on a problem the greater the problem becomes. This is observable in every field one cares to examine.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

Adventure Capitalist Jim Rogers & Foreign Aid

"Most foreign aid winds up with outside consultants, the local military, corrupt bureaucrats, the new NGO [nongovernmental organizations] administrators, and Mercedes dealers. There are Mercedes dealers in places where there are not even roads."

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo


If you save a mans life you are responsible for him the rest of his life.


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This is one thing i have

This is one thing i have never been able to understand why more people weren't totally on board with. Why should our nation give away $ to places around the world when our schools, infrastructure, and many other things are cratering. Shouldn't we take care of our own problems before we start going other places??????

*Wisconsin Constitution* Article I, Section 25 "The people have the right to keep and bear arms for security,defense,hunting,recreation or any other law-abiding purpose"

"Foreign Aid"

has never had anything to do with "helping countries develop".
It has always been involved with manipulating their leadership, via payoffs, to benefit certain special interests who have a controlling influence in the US gov't.

That's why these other countries have failed to see any benefits.
The whole purpose of the money was to subjugate them, or exploit them.
There was never any intention of "helping them". Such terminology was only used as propaganda cover.

However, the case was a bit different in the case of Israel, for reasons I don't really need to go into here.

Recommend follow up reading "Confessions of an Economic

Hitman." by Perkins.

It details examples of what you learned and a good link to send to people you know who still feel the way you used to about foreign aid.


"JOHN PERKINS was recruited by the National Security Agency during his last year at Boston University's School of Business Administration, 1968. He spent the next three years in the Peace Corps in South America and then in 1971 joined the international consulting firm of Chas. T. Main, a Boston-based company of 2000 employees that kept a very low profile. As Chief Economist and Director of Economics and Regional Planning at MAIN, his primary job was to convince Less Developed Countries (LDCs) around the world to accept multibillion dollar loans for infrastructure projects and to see to it that MOST OF THIS MONEY ENDED UP at MAIN, Bechtel, Halliburton, Brown and Root, and other U.S. engineering/construction companies. The loans left the recipient countries WALLOWING IN DEBT and HIGHLY VULNERABLE to outside political and commercial interests.

Perkins resigned his position at MAIN in 1981. He founded and became CEO of Independent Power Systems, pioneering technologies that promoted the use of "waste" power plant heat in hydroponic greenhouses and other cogeneration applications. In 1990, he sold IPS and founded a nonprofit organization, Dream Change Coalition (www.dreamchange.org), which works closely with Amazonian and other indigenous people to help preserve their environments and cultures.

John began writing Confessions of an Economic Hit Man several times during the past two decades. He was persuaded to stop by lucrative business offers that were contingent on his silence. "Now," he says, "we have entered the new millennium. Nine-eleven happened. My daughter has grown up and left home. The time has come."

~When I would talk to someone about RP and his policies on welfare and foreign aid (which is basically foreign welfare) who said they a Democrat, I would extend the proverbial hand from our RP Revolution party and say most Dems are the kindest people I know, and their heart is in the right place. We are both anti war; and we both want the people to be free and to prosper, we just disagree on the best way to help them get there. I would remind them of the idea that if you give someone a fish, he eats for a day; show them how to fish, they eat for the rest of their lives.

Welcome and thanks for sharing your epiphany. It's a beautiful thing.

RP R3VOLution

This is what made me

This is what made me initially wary about foreign aid. I learned that from Dr. Paul's foreign policy stance. But I still felt like giving to the poor was necessary (to prevent starvation or spread of diseases). However it's clear to me now that the free market is a far more efficient system for delivering wealth to individuals than through bureaucratic and corrupt governmental systems.

Clearly this is why their markets haven't opened up as quickly, the leaders are happy with the status quo where they get billions of dollars for free while their people suffer. If we cut off aid, the governments would collapse or be forced to open their markets to get any income.

This is the beauty that I love in all Dr. Paul's positions. They work together so well because they're all based in one core ideal of freedom and liberty.

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Thanks for helping to educate us on this forum

as I'm sure you'll help in educating those in the larger world. The World Bank's statement is surprising in its candid admission that its past giveaways have not helped those in need. I am rather suspicious, however, that this vast global bureaucracy is now touting investments by huge multinational corporations as the key missing factor for economic improvement.
In China, I'd consider the improved climate for entrepreneurship at least, probably more, important. Everywhere throughout the freer parts of Asia and elsewhere, home-based and street vendors eagerly jump into the marketplace with goods and mostly unregulated services, etc. These people can enter the market without tremendous burdens of agencies/officials to pay off. Even in highly regulated economies, the black/grey markets have always made the difference between starving under control or surviving outside tyrannical laws.