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If the round up started tomorrow, and the internet went down...

...how would/could we support one another?? Has anybody thought about this?

Remember, all Ron Paul supporters are potential "terrorists," and we'll all likely be targets of DHS (and their 350,000,000 rounds of hollow points,) the foreign military units, etc. THIS IS SERIOUS, FOLKS!

We ARE a terror TO THE REAL EVIL DOERS. THEY NEED FEAR US. That is how a government remains "of the people, by the people and for the people."

Unfortunately, right now, we fear them, rather than them fearing us.




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Examples are knowable

Look up Athens Tennessee

Look at all the crowds of people outside the events known as Randy Weaver and Waco where many people protest those abuses of power or Legal Crimes in Progress.

Those were educational for Legal Criminals, so those examples aught to teach something to the target victims.

Look at the Natural Disasters where the Legal Criminals test out their boundaries of Legal Crime too. These things are used by Legal Criminals to know better, so they aught to teach us to know better too.

Finally, please, know such things as:

Revolutionary War
Shays's Rebellion
Secret Proceedings and Debates of the Constitutional Convention
Ratification (Patrick Henry in particular)
Whiskey Rebellion
Alien and Sedition Acts
Kentucky and Virginia Nullification Resolutions
Civil War (falsely named)
Federal Reserve Act
World War I (actual causes)
World War II (actual causes)
The Current build-up toward World War III

Joe

then go to canada

then go to canada

If it comes to that here in the US, it'll be the SAME in Canada!

When the NWO finally "throws down", it'll be world-wide tyranny!!

Loose Moose

A.W.R.M.

http://www.awrm.org/ is a good source for info. Communications, medic supplies, bug out bags, gear, tactics, etc. I have found it to be an excellent preparedness forum. You have to register to use the forums, but the wealth of knowledge available is well worth it. Very Ron Paul friendly.

Be not Afraid, Be Prepared!

Yes, many of us are already prepared. Plus we have an awesome network created thru our meet up groups. And you can do this too. WE have exchanged contact info to be able to reach each other regardless of the situation. So work this out with your meet up.

Make a plan for staying or bugging out. Build a bug out bag. For now start a garden and get a few chickens and goats if you can in your town.

We are starting our barter net work now, I trade with friends, bodycare products I make and my jam and eggs etc. Collect hand tools,get a ham radio, H2O, Fuel, wood, oil lanterns and fuel, a generator,Food,seeds, etc. I have learned how to can and dehydrate food, make bread, clothes, etc.

There are lots of resources on the interwebs on survival and much of the stuff you need can be acquired at estate sales (the elderly, who lived thru the last depression saved all that stuff and were much more prepared then later generations, that is how I got all my canning stuff, lanterns and many hand tools on the cheap).

And you need to be able to protect yourself and your stuff...you know what I mean? - go... read...learn...act...it's what we do, right?

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

sadly

I don't have any idea.

Susie 4 Liberty's picture

I understand...

And that's all I have to say about that...

Susie 4 Liberty

i think steve martin is asking

not what each of you will do or how studly you are in defending yourself.

But how does a movement communicate should the internet go away.
I agree that we shouldnt advertise how we'll do that in plain view, but we should be thinking about that.

Oh, and if anyone thinks the military will not hurt you. ahahahahahahahahahah!!!! you're delusional!

and lastly, WWJD??
Jesus would turn the other cheek when he's insulted and attacked because we should consider our own pride not worth a fight.
He would slit their throats from ear to ear in defending the defenseless.

I do think the most valuable thing to do right now is learn skills.
fishing/hunting = food
welding
carpentry
making soap
making clean water
having items to barter - alcohol, silver, ammo
first aid

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

yep...

Got plans for the micro stuff. Need a little macro.

I understand we can't do that here. Just increasing the thinking (hopefully) a little bit.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

Macro

is expensive, detectable, and dangerous.

The PTB have frequency counters which will detect and lock on to any frequency being used, the millisecond the mic is keyed on. As soon as you push that button, they know you are on the air, and what frequency you are transmitting on. Two units triangulating on that will have some visitors at your door in the time it takes for a helicopter to get there.

For local comm, use very low power walkie talkies. The lower the power, the shorter the range, and the less chance of detecton.
For long distances, you can use codes that seem like simple classified ads in newspapers or on local bulletin boards, with certain ways to determine what the message is, while appearing completely normal.
If everything is down, and there are no other methods, make any transmissions very short, from a mobile unit, and encoded.
Messengers are more cumbersome, but can also be effective.

Agree

definitely learn the basics of farming/fishing/hunting/water purification, shelter and first aid.

I saw a foreign film... Italian

I wish I could remember the name.. it was a black and white film, and it was about Nazi Germany, about the people being rounded up and put into prison camps, and there were several stories going on within the film about people who made plans inside, and people making plans dealing with people outside and how to survive.. there was a family,, a small boy who is the narrator, and what he was seeing growing up in a prison camp... and there was a charactor in the film... an old man. He knew there was no getting out and so he did what he could to make everyone inside smile. He played an important role in the camp. He's crazy, but forgivable because being tossed in a prison camp looking death in the face.. where folks were starving, freezing, overworked, abused.. some became inhuman... and then there was that funny old man... can make a man go crazy,

One day the nazis come inside the camp to pile women and children onto a train, and there is a fight inside as a man who loved his wife and child, didn't want them to take her away.. the other prisoners were trying to hold him down, because resisting the Nazis would shoot you. Well this old man, he is being funny about it, and it's surreal.. the people don't find him funny... though his message to them was DON'T FREAK OUT BE HAPPY... well, the Nazis grab him and take him behind a wall and you hear a bang and they come out without him, and the entire camp went into shock, and then they wept.

The moral of the movie was, when times are bad, look up, for when you stop looking up, it's the end, and even when it is the end, and you know it, go out heppy,, strive to be happy, no matter what.

The name of the movie is

Life is Beautiful (1998)

Yes Life is Beautiful

I don't watch many movies, don't watch TV.. I'm not a media person.. I don't know how I came to see that movie, but it was a really good movie. It made me cry, Life is Beaitiful.. matter of fact, the more I think about it, that film hit the Inde movie circuit.. maybe won an academy award or few?

Independent action.

In 1775 British troops marched to Concord to confiscate arms from a Massachusetts Militia warehouse. They were met at Lexington Green by a very small contingent of the Militia, and we know what happened.
This was an independent action that caused a chain reaction.

Independent action is a big part of the Ron Paul movement.

Independent action works and makes it difficult for those in power to know what is coming since there are no or just small organizations difficult for them to infiltrate or track.

Have your own plans with those you can trust and it is up to your assessment of what is happening and your bravery to tell you what and when to act.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

Independent action works!!!!

"They were met at Lexington Green by a very small contingent of the Militia, and we know what happened. Independent action is a big part of the Ron Paul movement.

We must study the history

We must study the history of military campaigns and engagements to understand that might, technology, self proclaimed honor or righteousness never won the ground. Hadrian's wall was not built to imprison the Scotts,It was built to defend themselves from the Scotts during the campaign of brittania. Even from within the wall the Scotts destroyed the Romans with poisoned food and diseased women.

During the dark ages in europe it was a standard tactic during a seige on a castle to catapult the dead into the castle court yard in the attempt to promote disease within the walls. There are many examples of these tactics being superior to win or defend ground. Point is it never necessarily needs to be gun against gun or technology against technology, It comes down to idea against idea in the end.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Yes, but in the dark ages

they didn't have predator drones that could kill from miles away.

Disregard government. Acquire liberty.

Yes but?

Someone might know the girlfriend of the guy flying it from georgia? Knowledge is power. I knew someone that got rid of an enemy by setting him up with a one night stand with a girl that took a few bucks to have sex with the enemy because he was cheating on his wife. Turns out this girl was HIV positive. After this everyone in town stopped their extramarital affairs for several years. The girl got 2 years probation for having sex while knowing she was positive. The target is now dead. He lasted only about 4 years after.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

I do not fear anything

now that I know the truth. I am not afraid, the worst they can do is kill me & I go to my maker with a clear conscience knowing that I did not give in or give up. "They" on the other hand will have quite a reckoning to contend with.

By being nice

If the nightmare you post would become a reality, all I could do is be nice to you while waiting for my execution.

Eh?

Maybe I could give you a peace sign? Maybe I could recite some Ron Paul quotes for you and remind you of these good old days?

Truth, Knowledge and Peace ONLY!

We have Truth and Peace on our side. Warmongers don't understand this and it will be "their" great pitfall. Use their lies against them, instead of weapons. When they panic and use their weapons against us- their obvious lies suddenly bring out even more Truth. BTW-No internet was needed in 1776.

"For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill."
Sun Tzu

Keep waking up your friends and family. The establishment can only lie for so long.

"Three things can't be hidden long: the sun, the moon and the truth" Buddha.

Amateur "Ham" Radio

Ham Radio is a good idea. Several members of my family have their license, which is one drawback because you can be traced by your call sign. However, there is nothing illegal about it yet. You can place your own towers or use towers placed by local clubs. Some radios/phones are very nice and can be used as telephones. I believe it is easier to get your license now than in the old days.

Yea...I even have a HAM license....

...but I've never owned one that worked...

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

"if you strike me down now i

"if you strike me down now i will become more powerful than you could ever imagine"

just say that

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I like it.

Thanks!

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

Not wise to telegraph your plans.

Let me answer a question with a question? If you knew, that capture would likely result in slow torture, permanent imprisonment or death, what would YOU do to avoid capture?

Uh huh.

That's the 64 million dollar question, isn't it?

I always struggle with the corollary though: WWJD?

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

That's easy:

Turn the other cheek.

I usually wouldn't moon people...

...but they probably will deserve it.

Get me some of that blue face paint too.

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."