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How to wake up my mother?

I want to wake up my mom, who is still a victim of the old left/right paradigm and who thinks that the government is on the side of the people. She supports Obama, because he has such a nice family and he's a social liberal, just like her.

How do I make her swallow the red pill? Is there a video that does a good job explaining all the stuff about the NWO, the Fed, etc.

She is still hypnotized by MSNBC and can't seem to smell the coffee, even though she voted for Ross Perot.


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just love her.

not everyone is going to convert, and they deserve our respect, like children deserve our respect. Eventually they grow up, eh?

Maybe some other election?

If you Mom is happy and healthy, THANK GOD and just love her.

Show her

... Ron Paul's "What if" speech from congress. It is available in different versions on youtube. That has often changed the life of a leftwinger including myself. Let her watch it a few times. Then she will say: "Is he a republican??!".Then she will look up more information and slowly be transformed.

You have to crack the wall.

Find a weak spot, and pour some truth in.
When the crack widens, pour in some more truth.
Eventually the wall falls down. Might take quite some time.
My mother took 20 years to come around, and she still carries neocon baggage around. But if I remind her about it, she relents and recognizes it.

With Obama supporters, it is often his escalation and continuation of Bush's wars that is the weak spot. You can work that first, and when you start seeing the doubt in Obama starting, you can work it harder, and maybe introduce some other bad stuff about Obama.

Being "logical" with her, IMO, is not a good idea at first.
Leftists/liberals are all emotion. Touchy-feely, bleeding-heart, no thought types. This is why they are left/liberals. They fell for that kind of propaganda.
So, you can use the emotional propaganda to pry her out of her spell.
Maybe show her some photos of burnt and crippled and dead babies and children in Iraq/Afghanistan/wherever from Obama's war drones, etc. Then ask her how she feels about Obama now?

BigT is right

Find a weak spot and pour some truth in. It takes a long time to bring people around. We have to be satisfied sometimes with just planting seeds.

when talking with democrats

I had to get.....mad

My mom and dad have always voted Democrat, always. They always told me and my sisters that we had to as well.

But any true Democrat knows that Obama is NOT a Democrat.

And he lies. He PROMISED to bring our troops home, then deployed more troops. That really got to my mom since one of her son-in-laws is a Lt. Col in the Army & went to Afghanistan twice.

Once you have someone over there that you know and love, it changes things. It gets a lot more real than just reading stories.

Long story short, she sent me a pro-Democrat email one day and I got very upset with her. I told her that I would never vote for Obama, and why.

There's more to the story, but my mom voted for Ron Paul yesterday. So did my dad.

The two most important days in your life are the day you are born...and the day you find out why. -Mark Twain

Logic is perhaps best.

I find the best method is logic. Ask her what form of government we have. Explain to her that we live in a republic. What does that mean? It means we live by the RULE OF LAW. What is the rule of law? It is the Constitution. What is the Constitution? The Constitution is a compact between the states, creating and restricting the powers of the federal government. Tell her about Article 1, Section 8. Explain how our founders intended the power and wealth to be with the people. How States are actually individual soveriegn countries that agreed to a nonbinding compact. That anything not specifically listed in Article 1, Section 8 is NOT A FUNCTION OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT and therefore, unconstitutional and potentially tyrannical. Something along those lines.
Ask her if she likes war. Ask her if she approves of the bailouts, the TSA, The Patriot Act, police check points on our streets, etc...

I think its hopless unless

I think its hopless unless you can get her to realize that msnbc is just pro obama propaganda just like fox is pro romney propaganda. If she has the internet show her where she can find some real news.



Immoral funding of Military Industrial Complex by Federal Reserve and US taxation system must stop!!!! End illegal/unconstitutional wars! Preserve US currency!

On second thought....

tell her why you are voting for Ron Paul and what inspired you and then go do something fun together. Where a Ron Paul shirt and be extra sweet.

Not everyone is ready to unplug. Just plant the thought and it will sprout of its own accord.

Don't put her in a headlock and demand 30% of her income in an effort to explain how taxes are really theft. That never works.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin

Just posted

Ron Paul: A History for those who want to lean more about this true American Hero.
Happy watching!

Jill thanks for your concern


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have her watch america freedom to fascism

Have her watch america freedom to fascism

Here's a story that sometimes

Here's a story that sometimes helps me to convince others. Tell her the "Great Depression" was severe and lasted 10 years because of Keynesian economic policies (central econmic planning). They think you can spend your way out of a recession. Both Obama's and Romney's economic advisers are Keynesians. Tell her in the 1930s, our dollar was worth far more and even though it was severe, the dollar was able to survive. Tell her that because the dollar's worth is now less than 5 cents of it's original worth when the Federal Reserve was created in 1913, Keynesian economics will not work this time. It will eventually destroy the dollar and we will have hyperinflation. Tell her to look up the Weimar Republic's history and read John Williams' hyperinflation report on the front page of his website "shadowstats.com". Tell her the opposite way to deal with the depression in order for us to grow again is to allow free markets to work. We had a depression in 1920/21 (resulting from the Fed's inflation of money to fund WWI). President Calvin Coolidge kept his hands off it and allowed businesses to fail (a "correction") in order for bad businesses to be bought up and started again with new ones out of the ashes. It was a severe depression but lasted only about a year. Coolidge allowed the free market to work it's way out. That is what is needed this time in order for growth to come back. Tell her that because the Federal Reserve has printed so much money and devalued our dollar (inflation), it shows up in our everyday prices of everything. Who does that hurt the most? The poor and middle classes. When the dollar collapses (which it will), it will affect ALL COMMERCE. Social programs end, wars end (which is a good thing), foreign subsidies will end. And it will be disastrous. If she's skeptical about John Williams, tell him he is the government statistics economist who uses the old formulas to keep up with the economy (not the pretty, suped-up ones the government uses now). His hyperinflation report woke me up big time!

Show her images of the drone bombing victims...

.. and ask her if those are the actions of a man of peace.

And then let her know drones are being deployed here at home.


"The greatest mystery of all is truth." - Me, 2009

Yeah - I have a hard time...

I have a hard time understanding how people could support a man who has killed (directly or indirectly) so many thousands and thousands of innocent civilians (what Obama has done since being named Commander in Chief).

The only way to rationalize this to myself is that they just must not understand what he has done, or they are intentionally wearing some type of blindfold/earmuffs.

You could ask her to make a

You could ask her to make a list of everything she hated about George W. Bush, and then ask her of those items listed which has Obama fixed, repealed, or replaced.

You could do this with George H.W. Bush as well and ask here what "Slick Willy" Bill Clinton fixed, repealed, or replaced.

You can do this with Nixon/Ford and what did Carter fix, etc.
You can also do this with Eisenhower, and ask what JFK or LBJ fixed, etc.

Then you can reverse it and ask what did JFK or LBJ do that Nixon/Ford repealed, etc.
And what did Reagan repeal of Carter's.
Also, what did George W. Bush repeal or replace of Clinton's.

Eventually, hopefully, she would realize that nothing really changed no matter if a Dem or Rep was in power; maybe she would actually come to the conclusion that they are both the same -one could hope anyway.

Good luck with your mom.

many people may be hopelessly brainwashed

decades of propaganda from TV and newspapers have made my mother unreachable. she thinks Ron Paul is a "kook" still. hmmmm, where did she hear that?

“The greatest American superstition is a belief in facts”

Hermann Keyserling quotes

woo hoo!

I been having the same issue

I been having the same issue with my father, he thinks romney is the answer to beat obama. I tried email him with info but I find out that he just deletes the email. I try talking to him, he agrees somewhat but still does not see the light. He watches Faux news all the time and I cant stand staying in the same room watching it.

I tell him Ron Paul is winning and he will be in Tampa this August. Basically in one ear out the other, I get irritated but seems like there is nothing I can say or do to change his beliefs of the MSM.

Same with mine!

I asked him why he thought the media was blacking out Ron Paul & he said b/c no one will vote for him. I said but at my district caucus, RP supporters swept the delegates going to the state convention. So how is that true? No answer to that. He just listens to whatever CSPAN says...funny thing is, he lives in Iowa where they had not one, not two, but THREE different candidates as their winner? Luckily, my mom is a little more open-minded, I told her about Ron Paul & how he took all the delegates in Nevada where she lives. She said she never even heard of him! But now she is subscribed to his newsletter & researching him. She was burnt out on politics I think from having to listen to my Dad regurgitate the MSM for so many years...

hey we got something in

hey we got something in common..lol I guess it is true with the saying "too much tv will rot out your brain, especially listening to the MSM"

Use all the resources you can

Use all the resources you can find. Present issues not people, if you know what I mean.

I would try the NDAA route. The Wall st bailout route. Obviously, the social issues are a no go. People always listen to truth when it is about their money though. What about the wars and the drone bombings. So many people voted for Obama because they thought he would do the exact opposite of what he is doing now.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." Benjamin Franklin

How to wake up my son? Lives in CA.....voted for

Obama....Seriously folks, this is not an age issue. It is an ideology issue. You can claim that the "older generation" just does not get it but guess what? The YOUNG people were the catalyst to get Obama elected.

~Your perception becomes your reality~

I always like to start with

I always like to start with the documentary called "Freedom To Fascism" on YouTube or google video's.

There is no Left or Right -- there is only freedom or tyranny. Everything else is an illusion, an obfuscation to keep you confused and silent as the world burns around you." - Philip Brennan

"Invest only in things that you can stand in front of and pr

Try the decentralization argument

You might agree that there are valid social programs to support, but these are better accomplished at a more local level: 1)to address the specific needs of a state, county, or town; 2)because it's more efficient/saves $ handled closer to home than by federal bureaucrats (w/all the red tape); 3)it keeps oversight/control in the hands of those funding them; 4)it's fair for those in an area to help their own vs. (via fed. taxes) a redistribution of wealth, say, those in Arkansas having to pay for benefits for New Yorkers; 5)to ensure programs are by and for the people, not tied to wealthy lobbies or a president's or Congress' political favors to some vs. others. Tell her to, by all means, vote for social liberals locally, but for PRESIDENT we need someone who'll decrease the enormous nat'l debt being left to your generation and putting social programs like Soc. Sec. in jeopardy. Ask if she's had to live within her means. Ask why doesn't Obama believe in a "balanced budget" for the federal government (just Ron Paul).

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

P.S. Breakfast in bed...

...once in a while probably wouldn't hurt. Or at least making her that coffee you say she can't smell. I mean in general, of course, not just now until Election Day. :)

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

The failures and unsustainability of the system which obama runs

that usually works.

Focus on Obama's wars. Show

Focus on Obama's wars. Show her how many men and women we have lost because of them.

"Where liberty is, there is my country." -Benjamin Franklin