BEWARE anyone asking for Social Security number for RNC credientialsSubmitted by entropypressStAt on Fri, 05/25/2012 - 15:41
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS ARE NOT NECESSARY FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS and ARE NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR ENTRY INTO THE RNC.
Our GOP State Chairman (who is also the Delegation Chair) had repeatedly told us that the elected Delegates and Alternates needed to supply a Social Security Number in order to pass a background check so that we could get our credentials for entry to the RNC.
Some of us objected. see my previous post at the DP http://www.dailypaul.com/229627/giving-your-social-security-...
This story soon got spun that there were three levels of clearance needed to get onto the floor - the last level was a Secret Service clearance. So you had to provide your Social Security number or you simply were not getting in. The SS# was to make sure there were no Terrorists being admitted. (I must have heard that like 5 times from State GOPers.)
I believe ALL of the Romney delegates gave theirs - no surprise really. *sigh*
A letter was sent to the State Chair and to the state's Romney Campaign leader by our Ron Paul MeetUp organizer almost two weeks ago outlining why people may not want to comply. That was never answered.
This week I met privately with the State GOP Chair after our Delegation Meeting and I sent the following email the next morning (see below). Within the day the State GOP Chair issued a retraction and an apology stating that he was sorry he followed so blindly the RNC LEGAL COUNCIL which had led him to believe that this "pre-emptive" call for Social Security numbers was actually necessary.
LONG STORY SHORT: SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS ARE NOT NECESSARY FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS and ARE NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR ENTRY INTO THE RNC.
I am posting this after hearing about Nevada's Team Romney incident. The RNC (its LEGAL COUNCIL of all things!) apparently does not give a hoot.
Here is the letter I sent. I gave him ample wiggle room and was polite and friendly. Who knows - I may have just made an important friend in a pinch.
(you may copy it and amend it to your situation if need be)
Here is Special Agent Brian Deck's phone number: XXX-XXX-XXXX
I had gone down Monday to the Providence Branch office because I had seen Gary's letter and thought, "Oh brother" - and I figured I'd just cut to the chase and get this over with. I headed down with my birth certificate, passport, and fully expected to be fingerprinted.
The first person I spoke with seemed visibly surprised that the RIGOP was requiring this information for admittance to the RNC. They got another person to come talk with me and that was S.A. Deck.
S.A. Deck explained that people, The RNC, can ask you anything they want - but that the Secret Service usually only asks for social security numbers when there is a short suspense visit of The President (or Romney) and they have to sweep the area in a hurry. AND the Secret Service cannot force a person to give them their SS#. The RNC is months away and there is plenty of time to do checks which require much less than a social security number. He explained that the social might be asked for if perhaps someone's name is common and/or the name shows up on a watchlist. And in that case the Secret Service would contact you directly and maybe only ask for the last 4 of your SS# over the phone just to make sure you are not the person on the watch list. Primarily they are looking for people who have been arrested / convicted of violent crimes. He said he would check with the Tampa office to confirm but he felt strongly that he was correct and advised that if someone felt uncomfortable giving the social security number that "they should just leave it blank and the Secret Service Intelligence branch would contact them directly for clarification if need be."
Also, upon hearing this info I swung over to Social Security office and showed them your questionnaire. There, 3 people came over and told me they would not put their SS# on it because it did not contain something called an OMB number (office of business management). If a government agency (Secret Service) is asking for a Social Security number there has to be this number and the disclaimer on it which states where the SS# will be stored and who has access to it. They said it was "kind of suspect that the RIGOP would be claiming to be collecting this information FOR the Secret Service" and that "any real clearance includes fingerprinting" taha! so I wasn't too far off when I first got to Secret Service office in thinking I was going to be fingerprinted!
Anyhow - Its NOT that I want to be an aggravation - seriously, that is the last thing I want to do; I have had my identity stolen and it took 2 years to clean up. Catharine had her's tampered with twice and slept with a knife under her pillow for a while because of it. Andrew had his identity stolen and does not want this to happen again. My uncle had to get a totally different SS# a few years ago because of identity theft. I'm not telling you this because I want sympathy - I'm just telling you that this does happen. In fact the RNC itself is pretty notorious for losing and leaking Social Security numbers.
In 2006, the Republican National Committee accidentally e-mailed a list of donors' names and social security numbers to a New York Sun reporter"
note in the Sun Article:
Mr. Zahren said the Secret Service "did not request that, and we would not request that."
Interestingly, there are more articles to this point that have been scrubbed from the archives of Drudge Report but I found them here:
so as you can see this is a real concern.
S.A. Deck and I are fully aware of your position - you are just following orders to streamline what the RNC has going on. However, based upon the document you provided us, the claim that this is for a Secret Service clearance is questionable. If that is the case there should be some paper trail of that.
I am positive that all of the people who are uncomfortable with turning over their SS# would happily turn everything over to the local Secret Service branch office before the RNC. There are so few of us I am pretty sure the local office would accommodate us.
I'm sure the RNC would love to have the golden goose of market research, the social security number, for upcoming ads and speeches, but I did not see in any rule book anywhere (of course I could have missed it...) - RIGOP, RNC, or Sec or State, that I, or anyone else, would have to give our SS# to the RNC in order to be a delegate to the RNC.
I did let some around me know of my visits and word traveled. I made sure that no one disrupted your meeting. And I certainly did not want to make you look bad in any way in front of your peers. Know that all of us in that room are completely into going to the RNC and participating in the process. It is not my, or anyone's, aim to just irritate you. NO WAY. We just feel the need to be careful with something as important as our Social Security Number, our Identity.
Call me Saturday or we could go out and get coffee if you'd like to discuss this further.