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How to Spot a Rand Concern Troll

This is a the beginning of a series of how to spot concern trolls. Because there are like 5 active I am concerned about Rand Paul, I will start with him.

Topic name: Usually, it sounds like the author is reluctant to even post the topic. Rand has caused so much concern in his heart that he is hesitant to even to post. The topic also will hint at what the OP is concerned about. This is always a throw away line in an interview blown up to maximum magnification. Here is how you do it.

Rand's (insert concerned position) has (done 'X' or nullifies my support by doing 'Y') then followed by some dots, a -sigh-, or another sign of exasperation.

Concerned position lists:
Theocracy: Rand talks to Christians to join the liberty coalition. Usually tries to nullify all Randroid or atheist support because the Ron Paul movement is only atheistic in nature and Christians are not allowed in the tree fort. These also usually overlap with the Campaign Concern Trolls.

War with Iran: Rand talks about how sanctions are an act of war, but don't tell that to the concerned troll. He will go on and on about how Rand supports sanctions and wants war with Iran. He even cuts deals with neo-cons because he is a secret neo-con sent to trick us.

Edit: I thought that some on the DP actually read. I guess America F*** Yeah! was right... Americans simply do not read books.

http://original.antiwar.c...

Southern Avenger praising Rand Paul on his bravery.

http://youtu.be/lUxXkPrR6fs
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Treason Magazine's take on Rand.
http://reason.com/blog/20...
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Civil Liberties: Rand is against Civil Liberties. He removed himself from his 1964 Civil Rights Act position thus does not believe in Civil Liberties. Though he constantly fights the TSA, Patriot Act, ext it matters not. Only those with maximum concern tread this far.

Finally, the concern trolls usually state in a round about way, that Rand wants to piss on his father's legacy. Because of this, Rand is like a demon child. He did not learn the lessons of his father. He wants power, and he does not want to become a pariah on capitol hill like his dad. Thus, Rand will go to any length to destroy his father's legacy.

Update: Forgot one.

Rand is going to be Romney's VP (even though it is going to be Rubio). This proves Rand is a traitor.

There you all go. A break down of the Rand Concern Trolls.

Here is a hint: Every time a concern troll posts, I will update this OP with the relevant facts about Rand's positions.




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Bump

for updated discussion. Lots of posters concerned about lots of things here lately.

Rand is a effing pos

Two Quotes: "No way!" "What good will be achievied?"

Enough said!!!!!!!

Ron Paul's position on endorsing Romney.

I am concerned

Rand Paul is substantially shorter than Ron, and he has the curly hair of the Devil. Rand is no Ron.

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SO TRUE.

Thank You.

I met Rand Paul at CPAC 2011.

I met Rand Paul at CPAC 2011. If he's anything but a genuine patriot, fighting for liberty and REAL American values, I'll eat my Ron Paul hat. I've told my own Dad to go screw himself on more than a few issues, but we still agree on more things than not. Rand Paul 2016. Or 2020. The revolution continues.

so, basically anyone

with any concern about Rand that actually posts about their concern, is a troll?

Get a life.
Its ok to question anything. I endorse questioning everything.
If it is a troll, just hit them with the facts. If that doesnt work, move on to another post and forget about it.
The worst part of this website is the constant accusation of "troll"!
Its been that way since I got here a few years ago.

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Man

You can have your own opinion of Rand. If you find out you do not support him, that is okay. He is pushing a full audit of the Fed in the Senate. I support a full audit of the Fed, therefore, I support Rand. He is the best chance for a full audit. Once the full audit of the Fed happens, we win period. We do not need to win the presidency. The whole system will collapse when the audit is made public.

The trolls use forum sliding to bump useful topics off the radar and to control topics. It is a common cointelpro tactic. Why can I not parody it to expose them for who they are?

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I'd be curious to hear your

I'd be curious to hear your new defense of Rand Paul after you listen to the disgusting interview he just had with Levin. Levin stated matter of factly that "you father is not running." Rand not only failed to contradict him but immediately started to praise Romney as a superior to choice to Obama because he "could balance a textbook."

wtf are you supposed to do with Levin?

Correct him? Look what happened to Tom Woods when he tried to correct Mark Levin. Levin can kiss my ass. None of his listeners are our supporters. They can go about living in their damned bubble neo-con fascist world for all I care. They are not true conservative warriors like me.

That is my opinion of Rand and any attempt of his to correct Levin. It is futile and fruitless.

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Well....Rand was the guy who

Well....Rand was the guy who chose to go on his show in the first place.

So, you get invited to go on a show

then decline because the media his hostile? Rand is trying to save the lost sheeple who listen to Levin. Levin himself is a bloated moron. The message is what is important.

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The message is extremely

The message is extremely demoralizing to RP backers and reinforces the view that he "is out of the race." If that is what Rand accomplished, he should have turned down Levin.

Let's see.

Levin asked if Rand will endorse Romney at some point, and Rand responded..."I've always said I will endorse the nominee, and it's just a matter of when that happens, and I had a good meeting with Governor Romney about a week ago..."

A matter of when that happens? It doesn't sound like Rand thinks he has endorsed Romney yet. It also doesn't really sound like he thinks Romney is technically the nominee yet...so there you go, Rand hasn't endorsed Romney yet, and he hasn't implied Romney is the nominee yet either.

Of course, he is just telling the plain truth, as he always has about this matter. He has always said he would support the nominee, and he will keep his word if it is to be Romney, but he hasn't jumped the gun just yet out of respect.

Nothing demoralizing about the message. Unless you really think Obama would be superior to Romney, given the choice between those two. It's ok if you do.

We seem to live in

We seem to live in alternative universes. I heard a completely different show than you did. Heck, even many of the Randroids here agree with me, not you, though they rationalize his kiss ass pro-Romney approach as a "brilliant" strategy of deception. That claim is starting to look threadbare as we witness the consquences of suppressed turnout in Washington and other states.

The only alternate universe I

The only alternate universe I live in is the one where I listened to the whole interview and reasoned for myself. It's not part of some "strategy" it's just Rand being consistent with everything he has said publicly up until this point. But if you really think this is so demoralizing why are you spreading it around everywhere and pretending to know how everyone else feels about it? Oh no need to answer that question.

He has yet to answer

as has the other people who call me names, yet say I am the one who throws names around. These guys get into little hissy fits it seems. You will never get an answer btw.

These guys throw temper tantrums when Rand goes on Levin's show. Rand even being on Levin's show is a huge victory. They cannot ignore us. I say this with all due respect. I have only been demeaning (to illustrate points) to those who have insulted me first and while I have tried to be the better man, sometimes I have failed. I am sorry. A person can only put up with so much hypocritical BS at once. The goal posts with these guys are like what I am about to mention later, tar babies. They shift the requirements of the debate. First, Iran then X and finally it comes down to a Paul 'dynasty' or some other fabricated reason. That is what these concern threads are. Giant tar babies designed to leech support for Ron or Rand. That is how I feel about it.

My dad is in media. Rand had his talking points he wanted to get out. Rand did not want want to go into the tar baby argument of whether his Dad was 'in the race.' I mean if you want to have a senseless and pedantic argument with Levin be my guest. Rand figured what he had to say to Levin was more important than that argument, and for that I salute him. I bet he had to clinch his teeth for even being on that show given how insulting Levin has been toward his Dad.

Moral of the story, some people on the DP think they can get away with throwing around baseless accusations thinking they are some liberty crusader using warped logic.

These anti-Rand people are mostly spin. Occasionally, Rand will say something that makes me scratch my head, but then again, so has Ron. They later clarify their statements or prove their beliefs with their actions as to dispel my 'concerns'.

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Yup. The best part was when

Yup. The best part was when Levin asked how Rand could stay so cheerful in dealing with so much opposition in Washington... I think Levin really wanted to know, lol.

Question

Yes, I am new to being a member so let me get that out of t he way immediately. I have been a Ron Paul supporter since 2007 and have followed the DP during this election season. I never joined as a member but have read the posts here.

For all those who cry troll I would like to say this. Yes, some people on the DP are here to mess with people. However, it is wrong to label people as a troll because they are new or may have a dissenting opinion. Not only is that illogical, but it is wrong. In Ron Paul's newest book he has a specific chapter demagogue and that is what this is essentially doing. As a supporter I have
seen RP demagogued constantly and would hope his supporters would have the courtesy and morals to not do this.

On that note, I would really like someone to answer the following questions without demagouging me or labeling me:

1. Why did Rand meet with R$?
2. Why did he seemingly endorse Romney because he is a good businessman?

I welcome all opinions and thoughts on the matter.

Thanks for your time

Okay

First of satire is not demagoguing. I am parodying the 'concerns' of the Rand Concern Trolls by breaking down how the forum topics are created. This is quite the opposite of demagoguing. I am expressing the ludicrousness of the anti-Rand faction.

Just because I struck at the heart of the issue with a stake and twisted it (as I usually do apparently), does not mean I am a demagogue. Quite the contrary. I will add your name calling to the list of names I have been called in the attempt to demagogue me.

I like how you all have subtle swipes, but when you all get called out on it, moan and whine like you are supposed to get away with your shenanigans calling it 'free speech'. News flash, I have free speech too. I will use my free speech to expose the ridiculous claims many make here about Rand.

Ugh, there is so much wrong about what you said it is astounding. I hope you go back and re-read what you said.

Oh and calling Romney R$ is pure demogoguing. You are a hypocrite. Me responding to this has locked you into your response. That is a protip for you.

As for your two questions:

1) Obviously Romney (R$ sic LOL) was trying to kiss the ring of Rand to get our support. Since, I have not gotten and email by Rand telling me to support Romney, I am guessing the meeting went poorly. Rand is pushing for a full audit of the Fed in the Senate and probably asked Romney to support it. Romney would never support it so talks probably broke down.

2) Ron has said the exact same things about Romney's career. Is Ron a traitor to our cause?

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So, just curious

how many here think "Randians" Galileo, quickbrownfox, and BurningsiriusΩ™ all the same poster stirring the pot?

Right

Everyone who supports Rand is the same person. You caught me. Every handle that supports Rand is me.

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Oh, I could definitely be wrong

Just noticing similarities.......

There is a webcomic for this

I wish I could find it on my image hosting site. It is a guy who disagrees with two dudes online. Then he says, "I disagree with two guys, therefore, they are the same dude". It is much funnier than my explanation.

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Guess

you had to be there.

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So in your world is anyone

So in your world is anyone allowed to criticize St. Rand?

Criticize Rand

Make sure you do it for the right reasons. If you cannot support Rand, I understand. I, however, do support Rand Paul just like Ron Paul.

FYI, we are all sinners.

Christians happen to be saints and sinners at the same time. Rand is a fallible human being just like his father.

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I wouldn't claim that Ron is

I wouldn't claim that Ron is perfect for one second, but there is such a thing as degrees here. After all, Romney is a sinner too but that's hardly an argument for voting for him.

Your snark response

was appreciated. I was able to give a micro-theology lesson on what a saint is. That said, there are no 'degrees' with Rand and Romney or any neocon. Get your head out of your butt.

The whole lesser of two evils voting thing was a meme that was created because both candidates had the same policy and philosophy of governing. Rand has a different philosophy and different policies. Therefore if you vote for Rand, you are not voting for a 'lesser of two evils' or voting by degrees. I am sorry if you think Rand is a super secret neo con traitor. I get it.

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I don't think he is a neocon.

I don't think he is a neocon. I think he is an untrustworthy opportunist who has sold his father down the river. That is much, much, much worse.