Still trying to win my friend over. My latest attempts at friendly persuasion.Submitted by onesquarelight on Sat, 05/26/2012 - 08:52
Here are a few recent comments between myself and a lifelong friend of mine on FB. We've been arguing about issues for quite a while. I've had little/no success in convincing him to support Ron Paul. I share this with the DP crowd so, perhaps, you can use my thoughts in your own battles for liberty with those you know and so you can share with me any ideas you may have that could use to build up my arguments.
Me: Ever notice the people who insist that Islamic extremists attacked us because they hate our freedoms are the same ones who insist that we must throw them away...while the ones who warned, a decade before 9-11, of coming consequences as a result of our flawed foreign policy, are standing up against the massive erosion of individual liberty at the hands of our Federal Government.
Him: Look up caliphate. Develop an understanding of the roots of radicalism. I dont want to throw freedom away....thats what Obama/eco-warriors want. Ok?
Me: Patriot Act, EEA (Enemy Expatriation Act ), Drones over U.S., NDAA(Section 1021), TSA, CISPA, SOPA, ~ All egregious moves by government that undermine liberty. I've not heard you mention how any of these issues boil your blood. Not that it doesn't, I'm just saying that I haven't heard you come out strongly against these bills/practices in defense if liberty.
I'm not saying we face no enemy, but I think it would be wise to look at causation a little closer. Why do they hate us? Why did they attack? Because of our "Freedom" or because of our occupation? Let's agree that demanding the cause is entirely one or the other is naive.
I believe the Constitution affords the U.S. all the necessary individual protection and national tools to defend us from any threat. The president should not have the authority to wage war without Congressional approval. We don't need TSA groping us. We don't need federal government policing the internet, spying on us, passing regulations that would restrict one of the most productive economic engines of the 21st century. The president and his staff should not, under any circumstance, have the authority to kill an American citizen without first proving in the court of law his guilt.
Yet, for the most part, a large portion of the conservative base remain silent on these issues. It's the Ron Paul republicans who are pushing back on these naziesque tactics. Perpetuating fear is one way government consolidates power and convinces the people to part with liberty.
You repeatedly claim that Ron Paul and those involved with the liberty movement don't understand the threats we face. Am I to understand that you believe if he(we) did understand, we would then realize that all these invasions on liberty by our own government are necessary to combat foreign threats. That is what I believe you believe. Correct me if I am wrong.
Hence my image. If it's our freedom they hate...Why are so many willing to throw freedoms away in the name of winning the war on terror. It makes no sense. If I believed that terrorist's hate of our freedom was the reason they attacked us, the rational reaction would be to stand up and defend our freedom from being undermined, not sit back quietly while government consolidates war power and turns American soil into part of the battleground. That's how we win the war on terror.
I've asked before but I have never received a response. What does winning the war on terror look like to you?
I'm awaiting his response.