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Why Ron Paul Will Never Win California

Demographics in California are well beyond the tipping point.

Whites babies are only 1/3 of all new California babies. White families are leaving California in droves.

From 1988, California has added 10 million 3rd world people, but only 0.2 million tax payers.

California has powerful Latino, Black, Asian and Jewish ethnic interest lobbies and they viciously vote for their interests. Not the Constitution.

Why would all these new Californians vote for Ron Paul libertarians who want to cut the Welfare State? Free food, free medi-cal, free house and free California public education?

Texas has also reached tipping point. The power of Latino lobby means massive push for more taxes, more welfare.

By Bye Texas. No more Ron Paul in Texas.

Open-border Libertarians are in fantasy land. Immigration is the health of the State.

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Thank you Kumar for posting this

Immigration is unpopular in all societies, but generally forced on them by Western governments. Race aside, immigration makes no sense when the unemployment rate is going through the roof as it is here.

The MSM may use posts like this against us, however, so it's a tough call where to make statements like these. I tried using the chat room, but don't waste your time there--just a bunch of lonely people making small talk. :)

Hey GOP, where's my vote?

Immigration has been around

Immigration has been around since the beginning of time, back then they where just probably nomadic tribes.

Most Libertarians are Left Libertarians, Drink MSM Kool Aid

Most libertarians on this site are not true libertarians at all. They are left wingers.

Murray Rothbard and Hans hermann hoppe were restrictionists. Because they were true libertarians.

This is clearly a mass genocide campaign. Iraq suffered violent genocide, and American whites are suffering less violent genocide.

And in the face of 22% unemployment, there are so many clueless people here.

And we are already full of people. 320 million. Should we make ourselves a giant Brazilian slum.

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Well stated

Peace to you brother.

Hey GOP, where's my vote?

Vitriolic Attack

Why resort to cheap words like "troll"? Why don't you defend yourself intellectually?

Why do you attack me with insults like MSM attacks Paul?

You are unable to face me intellectually so you resort to insults.

Not smart.

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I'm an immigrant, I live in

I'm an immigrant, I live in california
and
I love Ron Paul

Trolls

I'am pretty sure some of the trolls on here are the same ones that stay on the Ron Paul yahoo page in the politics section.It is really disgusting how they sit on there 24 hrs a day just to trash Ron and his supporters and tell lie after lie.

The people who are going to vote Republican in California

are voting in a closed primary for the presidency. The Republican Party in California is at 22% of voters.

The people who will actually vote are the oldies and the Ron Paulers. Take your pick. The middle aged ones (that I know) will vote for Rubadub Romney. And there are a lot of them....but they cost a lot to go to their "parties". I could never afford to go...they were always at Country Clubs or real espensive restaurants and so forth..so when Ron Paul came to Berkeley and not only that...but it was FREE....and he speaks my language....well....the people on the street like Ron Paul but don't think he is still running...I think THAT is the competition...is he still here or not?

I hope everyone will get on phone.ronpaul2012.com and call 500 calls next week.

SequoiaTrees4RonPaul

They will be voting

away their very existence. Just like the Greeks are doing. The people in Greece received a lot of government assistance, although taxed to the hilt. Now that more money is going out then taken in, the government is hollering for austerity measures (although still taxed to the hilt). Do the people like this? In a word no.

The same thing will be happening here as we go further in bankruptcy. When the undeserving poor stop getting that free check, when they thought they only had to vote, they are not going to be happy campers any longer. Somehow I do not feel sorry for them one bit.

I've goy news for you. There is no health to the state of

California. They are bancrupt. A gooddeal of he reason o hat I because they continue to support people who take but do not give. It has already been proven that is not sustainable.

~Your perception becomes your reality~

How did they go bankrupt? Mass Immigration

That's what my post is all about.

California is bankrupt because it imported 10 million 3rd world people and only 0.2 million tax payers.

Unless Libertarians fight to freeze mass immigration, no future for Liberty, Libertarians, GOP and Constitution.

Do not hide from reality.

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The only thing that will keep

The only thing that will keep Ron from winning Cali is the fact that we had to register republican which most people out here detest.
Most of us out here voted for Obama and are not happy.
The local news showed Romney here at a fundraiser getting heckled about a month ago.

Liberty Lives in Hearts Of Every Color

History clearly shows that every wave of immigration in this country has made us stronger. To suggest that the strongest of the poor who are willing to crawl here on their bellies through shitstorms to get here for even a CHANCE to be free are here for a free lunch denigrates their courage.

These people above all others know government isn't their friend. They want what we all want. The chance to live and love and be free from oppression and tyranny.

Your writing is a fine piece of ignorant, bigoted trash.

6 days here? You have no shot with this group sir. Move on.

More immigration = More ethnic lobby = More Welfare Statism

baseless accusations. You haven't provided any proof how post 1965 immigration has made us stronger.

With 22% unemployment, how is flooding with more immigration making us stronger?

100 years ago we were less than 80 million people.

Now we are full. 320 Million and growing.

When will you jump out of the well and look at the mess surrounding you?

From 1924 to 1965 we had strict control on immigration.

From 1965 immigration floodgates opened and look at the growth in big government.

There were other factors, Nixon's gold suspension, wars, but immigration is the 3rd rail.

Unless demographics change in our favor, you Will Loose.

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I think Bob's point is that

I think Bob's point is that immigration is a tool used by governments to strengthen it's economy through workforce and in turn enrich itself culturally. I agree with you that today! is a different matter, it's being used as a populist movement or what looks that way against the very ideals of the United States of America. Our politicians like to bask in that and do not address the issue of potential enemy combatants or any other jargon that may be used to clamp down on, case in point our airports.....our airports for heaven sakes. People we all have a certain degree of common sense to know that if you plan another attack it will come through that border not through some airport, this is just another example of the clampdown on it's citizens and nothing more.

You know there is a war going on in Mexico, 50,000 deaths due to drug related events. Tell me that's not a civil war. Tell me that these wars are not across borders, California just seems to be in the way.

Nigeria, Bangladesh, Japan: Insanity?

Bob's point is false because Bob flings worthless cliches which sound sweet (like Socialist Utopia)in talk, but monstrous in reality.

Bob lacks critical thinking, but he accuses childishly. Bob is like MSM.

If more workforce makes a country rich than Nigeria, Pakistan and Bangladesh would be richer than Japan.

Given two choices, Where will you prefer to live? Japan with declining workforce or Nigeria with exploding workforce?

And how have we enriched culturally? Can you give examples of this wonderful enrichment you are talking about?

Apart from a few highly skilled Koreans, Indians (like me), other Asians, how has mass flood of 100 million unskilled, uneducated, untalented fast breeding immigrants since 1965 enriched us?

Sure, importing 100 million people will create a few million jobs. But did it raise our standard of living?

If enrichment is so wonderful, why is Japan, Korea, China not flooding themselves with immigrants and enriching themselves?

Comes the foolish answer: "We are a country of Immigrants".

But so is Japan, Korea and China. There have been many historic migrants to all these nations. But at some point they used commonsense, which Bob lacks.

Can we flood hundreds of millions more and improve our standard of living?

Look at the mess in LA, New York and all other crowded immigrant utopias. Lifeless jungles of concrete and "enrichment".

Why are you hell bent on making whole USA a giant LA, a giant hell hole by flooding us with millions every year?

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It's just that, the U.S. has

It's just that, the U.S. has always been since initiation a immigrant nation. There is a certain sympathy and storyline behind that immigrant work force. Like i stated, times change illegal immigration at this moment is counterproductive to those in the states legally and for those coming in illegally. I really don't wish to argue points here but that diversity is a rich source in itself, a resource if you will. ( 1 example: food should bring us to common ground )

Didn't you hear..

Welfare is no longer available, it is being replaced with a financial collapse. Thank you.

looks like

looks like a romney troll just cleared his racism of his sleeve,is it hard to type with that white hood over your head?

freedom420

Baseless Attacks

When you cannot debate intellectually, you scream "racism".

You are doing what MSM does to Ron all the time.

I support Ron Paul 100% since 2005. But I see a grim future if we don't freeze immigration now.

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Your stated figure of 1/3

Your stated figure of 1/3 white babies; could that mean only white mother and white father couples? My experience in California is that this does indeed describe fewer and fewer families in Ca. The majority, in my opinion, are actually families with one white parent and other parent of color. I have bi racial children and most of their peers are bi racial. Sometimes it can be quite a surprise to meet parents of my children's friends. Until very recently, "Bi-racial" was never a category on any official form. We were forced to choose one race for our children. I think your post would be more correct to identify bi-racial as the largest category of race in California, rather than any one race, white or other.

Same in other Southwest states

In Texas or New Mexico, you are just as likely to meet a white person named Sanchez or a Hispanic person named Johnson. Nobody is pure anything.

I'm in Cali

I'm votin for Ron

I am a human becoming, help me to become.

A beauty contest win in Cali would be nice

but the important thing is getting the majority of delegates.

Confirm

Can anyone else confirm that California is a winner take all State where the prize of cooking the vote count, or the reward for fraud, is to hand the Chief Fraud the power to hand pick all 172 delegates?

I am biased.

Joe

Reconsider

Please reconsider what you are saying because Ron Paul's message is not a "white" message. It's a message which attracted many races to America for centuries.

Rather than focus on people, wee the people for Ron Paul, focus on the government and corporations who prefer wee the people in a nanny state, from cradle to grave, rather than working for ourselves.

Have you ever seen video of looters at work? It's hard labor. Can you imagine running down a street with a 54" HDTV? It's hard for an employer to give a job that buys an employee a 54" HDTV because government is more needy than the people.. how much do you really pay in taxes?

Which costs more?

Social Security for the State of CA, or funding three wars simultaneously?

Personally, I have no problem with taxes supporting or sustaining people who need help. I have a big problem sustainong wars on people who's only mistake was being born on soil that has oil. We should be drilling for oil.. there's so many thing we could be doing if our government would stop taking our money and step out of the way.

Will Most African-Americans Vote For Obama?

The idea of a voting bloc is grouping people together and indicating, historically, how they vote. Did CNN not convince us that white evangelicals voted for Santorum? Immigration does effect the health of a state - especially when they only bring wants and not wealth.

I don't see it.

More people are calling Obama "mixed race" than Black this election and I think it's becasue he has dissappointed so many blacks.

It's ok to bring wants, as long as you're willing to work for them. The problem is when they don't want to be a citizen and remain here illegally, even if they are working three full time jobs, which many do.

The post is pure garbage.

The post is pure garbage.