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Fukishima may kill us all. No MSM coverage as usual.

We can play the denial game all day long and pretend that, because the mainstream media is not reporting on it, there is no threat, but the facts are quite clear.
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This is, without a doubt, the most immediate threat faced by the world. It’s so serious, in fact, that the Japanese government has considered and put into place evacuation plans for the whole of Tokyo – some 40 million people. Reports are also emerging that suggest a collapse of the spent fuel pools would be so serious that the entire country of Japan may have to be evacuated. The entire country – that’s 125 million refugees that will cause an unprecedented humanitarian disaster.
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Before you argue that these are the ravings of just alternative media conspiracy theorists and fearmongers, consider the assessment put forth by Robert Alvarez , a senior policy adviser to the Secretary for National Security and the Environment for the US Department of Energy:
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http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/05/25/army-general-nor...




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"energy" department

You notice that this is the energy department that we are talking about right? It is one of those departments that Ron Paul is going to abolish. I have began to not believe everything all of these scientist say. Global warming is just another idea to get money. Ohh my god we are all going to die from the Radio active waves so we must do research and we need tax payer money to fund it!! Mr government will you give us research money! What a bunch of bull crap. Everyone is so damn corrupt minded. Shit if we die, we die!

Freedom

Screaming death is the worst thing you can do.

I have high doubts that Fukushima will kill us all, because North America, Europe and Asia are still alive and kicking after the north-hemispheric Chernobyl and Three Mile Island Incidents. As too after Fukushima and the many thousands of nuclear weapons tests in the U.S., Russia and the Asia-Pacific region. And Hiroshima and Nagasaki have been rebuilt and are well-developed.

But so little is actually known about radiation. As a result, humans will perceive radiation as this one mutant monster disease that will kill hundreds of millions and billions instantly or more. You know the reasons: the nuclear weapon could wipe out entire nations, and generally anyone directly exposed to high-energy radiation would die in days. But the long-term, wide-area effects of radiation over a scale of a hundred years remain to be seen and the studies often being brought forward are based on sparse data.

The biggest threat is the stigma. People living in urban Japan have already begun to discriminate against people from the Fukushima area, believing them to bring taint and death and such, like a leper. Everything and anything that originates from Fukushima - people, cars, food and air - will be shunned, and once people believe they have come into contact with those tings they, too, will feel tainted. Even in cases where the radiation levels on tose things are acceptable. It then becomes a chain reaction.

Screaming death is about the worst thing you can do. Humans are generally tougher than you'd think, and are very much capable of dealing with this disaster. But only if they cooperate with each other. And unfortunately, when you scream death you will by extension encourage stigmatisation. And the stigma drives wedges between the very people who should be working together - city-dwellers, scientists, Fukushima residents and all to clean up that mess.

As for the media, well, they'll keep it quiet. Or not? Not all of the media will keep quiet about it. Some of the MSM will amplify the mood and SCREAM DEATH. Others will play it down. This time around though I think that they simply have no idea what to make of the situation and so are not covering it for that reason.

I believe in the freedom to be what we choose to be.

Grassroots radiation monitoring

If this is of concern to you, you might like to know about http://radiationnetwork.com/
It's a grassroots network which keeps watch over radiation levels in the atmosphere. It is a growing network, has many stations (ordinary people, as I understand it, who have purchased reliable models of Geiger counters and follow common procedures to measure and report their findings) in this and other countries, including some in Japan. It states they update their reports in real time. I followed it closely in the period of time right after the Fukushima event first happened, but check only once in a while now. Thought about joining, but Geiger counters got scarce for a while, and I sent that money I would have spent on the counter to the money bombs. It is not a way to prevent a disaster, but it does seem like a good way to get clued in with some real info and to get a sense for yourself of what is taking place. Knowledge is some kind of power, at least. It has lots of information on radition-related topics too.

theres just so much toothpaste out of the tube

as far as nuclear threats go. Even if you could snap your fingers and clean up the meltdown, theres still a bunch of warheads & uranium missing from a bunch of places feared to be destined for use in these so-called dirty bombs. Then on the other hand I watched some videos about Hiroshima & Nagasaki the other day. Man. Look at pictures of Hiroshima the day after the blast, and Detroit the day after the bast- then look at both cities today. I wonder if nuclear fall out is our biggest concern- or just the decay of civilization in general. This time next year you'll have to clear a path through tsunami debris to get to the water - and good luck surfing : (

I'm Being Philosophical Here...

I know this is serious guys, but what control do we really have to prevent the worse from happening?

We either die or we don't. Way i look at it, we're going to die someday anyway. May as well die fighting for something meaningful and let God pick up the pieces..

My concern

rests with the future of energy production and how this lesson should be used as talking point to further the discussion. I think its a discussion worth having, aside from the impending doom aspect of it. You're right, if it were to destroy us, it will destroy us. But the future should be considered under your umbrella of 'fighting for something meaningful'. At least I think so.

I agree with you in

regards to "We have to die sometime". I just post this shit because the MSM keeps the facts from us. This is a perfect example of most people left in the dark.

I knew this post

would pull Bugman out of the woodwork. The star shill for "Big Oil" and the "Everything is fine" crowd. I love it.

death by government

ge backed by american special interests built that plant which was a faulty design "regulated" by both governments.

Fukishima

They have to start burying that thing imo.

Has the wildlife around there been affected?

ie. wild dogs and birds and fish life and bears...etc.

donvino

Not so fast.....

http://www.newsetal.com/index.php/2012/05/spent-fuel-rods-an...

The primary source for that story is the NEW YORK TIMES.

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So, while you worry about us ALL dying from Fukushima effect

on this day of 5/27/2012, takeaction, I must inform you that Mainichi Newspaper is reporting (today) about the jubilant elementary school marching band members, who just received instruments through "musical instruments for kids" project. LIFE (with its little happiness-inducing goodness) is going on, even in Fukushima, amazingly enough. . .

http://mainichi.jp/area/fukushima/news/20120527ddlk070401120...

Well, no sense worrying about

Well, no sense worrying about something you can't control. If we are all doomed to die we are doomed to die. I'm going to go out and enjoy life, have fun sitting in misery worrying about what you can't control.

Looking at the title... KNEW it was a 'takeaction' thread...

Could be a credibility issue after all of the Chicken Little sky is falling posts of the past... remember takeaction pleading for you to stay out of the rain?

http://www.dailypaul.com/173083/you-must-stay-out-of-the-rai...

You must stay out of the rain!! Please. Radiation is very Bad!

#1 STAY OUT OF THE RAIN!
#2 NO Milk or Dairy
#3 No Leafy green vegetables from the US...only Mexico and SA.
#4 Bottled water only.
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After the BP disaster, 'takeaction' begged people to evacuate Louisiana, "people are dying!", said he was going there in person to 'take action', but went on vacation elsewhere instead.

While it's nice to have concern for your fellow man, it's counterproductive to monger all that fear all the time. Go help Ron Paul instead...

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

And you went in the rain?

Never heard of this group,but common sense tells you...If there's radiation in the atmosphere don't be outside when it turns to liquid and falls on your head! I have not had a single bite of seafood or a drink of tap water since this disaster unfolded.Also,As far as I know,I've not consumed anything that came from the East.

I know for a fact that the rain in northern California is

radioactive. Milk is still measuring in this state with Fukushima residues.

It is good advice to stay out of the rain in the northwestern seaboard in particular, all the way up to Alaska.

Clay, Zeolite, Chlorella all bind radioactive metals.

So,

then if we're all dead, no more worries, right?

What do you suggest they do about it, oh wise one?

I'll bet after the gulf oil spill didn't destroy the planet like you expected, you probably were anxiety-ridden until you could clutch on to another disaster to predict the world's end.
It seems your "hobby" is hyping-up disasters, for fun and profit, maybe.

Yeup, you are correct, Nothing happening in the gulf

because the MSM does not say so.

America's Gulf Disaster Revisited
By Stephen Lendman
4-21-12

April 20 marked the two year anniversary of BP's Gulf of Mexico disaster. Until Fukushima Daiichi's catastrophic nuclear meltdown, it was the largest ever environmental calamity.

It's devastated the lives of millions of area residents. It contaminated America's Gulf. Nothing in it's safe to eat. The incident's been plagued by coverup, denial, and Obama administration complicity to assure nothing slows hazardous deep water drilling.

In 2010, as disastrous conditions unfolded, Dahr Jamail reported firsthand from the Gulf. He's now discussing the aftermath. On April 18, he headlined, "Gulf seafood deformities alarm scientists," saying:

"Eyeless shrimp and fish with lesions are becoming common, with BP oil pollution believed to be the likely cause."

He quoted Louisiana State University’s Department of Oceanography and Coastal Sciences Dr. Jim Cowan saying:

"And in my 20 years working on red snapper, looking at somewhere between 20 and 30,000 fish, I’ve never seen anything like this either."

He's not alone. Gulf fishermen, seafood processors, and other scientists report "disturbing numbers of mutated shrimp, crab and fish that they believe are deformed by chemicals released during BP’s 2010 oil disaster."

"Along with collapsing fisheries, signs of malignant impact on the regional ecosystem are ominous: horribly mutated shrimp, fish with oozing sores, underdeveloped blue crabs lacking claws, eyeless crabs and shrimp ­ and interviewees’ fingers point towards BP’s oil pollution disaster as being the cause."

Jamail also cited concerns about continued Macondo well leakage. Overhead flights show large oil sheen covered areas. Evidence confirms it's from Macondo. What began two years ago didn't end. "Experts believe" seabed seepage is responsible.

Louisiana Environmental Action Network (LEAN) data confirm highly toxic BP oil still contaminates the Gulf. Affected residents experience it harmful effects.

Seepage is common wherever offshore drilling occurs. According to University of California's Ira Leifer, "From what I've seen, this new oil and sheen definitely seemed larger than typical natural (Gulf) seepages...."

BP, of course, denies it's from Macondo. Throughout 2010, the company misreported repeatedly. Initially it said 1,000 barrels a day were leaking, then 5,000, then larger volumes still well below actual amounts. Estimates ranged up to 100,000 or more daily barrels.

For months, company officials grossly downplayed the severity of the crisis. Coverup and denial continues. Contaminated areas are vast. America's Gulf may never fully recover. Neither will millions of area residents.

On April 20, the Institute for Southern Studies (ISS) headlined, "Troubled Waters: Gulf communities still reeling two years into BP disaster," saying:

BP claims recovery's on the way. Hard evidence proves otherwise. A new ISS report's titled, "Troubled Waters: Two Years After the BP Oil Disaster, a Struggling Gulf Coast Calls for National Leadership for Recovery," saying:

Area residents report oil still washing up on Gulf shores. Without help, affected people and communities face challenges likely too great to overcome.

Gulfport, MS community leader Derrick Evans addressed BP's April 2012 shareholders meeting. "The oil is not gone," he said. "The general perception is that BP made a mess and BP did a big cleanup and everything is all fine. Nothing could be further from the truth."

Two years later, the reality facing Gulf residents is sobering and disturbing. Their struggle to overcome what BP wrought continues. Economic hardships persist. So do serious health problems.

Some communities lost their way of life entirely. Others face uncertain futures. Many residents are sick and depressed. They've gotten precious little help. ISS produced its report cooperatively with Bridge the Gulf Project and the Gulf Coast Fund. They focused on three areas in particularly hard hit communities:

(1) Making a living

Thousands of fishing boats were idled. Many over-indebted fishermen shut down entirely. Local groups try helping best they can. They need federal and BP help not forthcoming.

(2) Restoring the coast

Every hour, Louisiana "loses a football-field sized chunk of coast land" from erosion and "energy industry activity." Residents need federal help restoring their fragile coastline.

(3) Protecting public health

Residents report alarming numbers and types of illnesses. Clearly they're toxic oil and dispersants related. Organizations like the Louisiana Environmental Action Network try to help. It's not enough. Much more is needed.

Overall, recovery is an unfulfilled dream. Achieving it's barely begun. BP turns a blind eye. Washington largely does the same. The suffering of millions persists.

The Government Accountability Project (GAP) "promote(s) government accountability....protect(s) whistleblowers, advanc(es) free speech, and empower(s) citizen activists."

Since 1977, it's been "the nation's leading whistleblower protection and advocacy organization." It's also on the BP story. It's been investigating it since last summer. Whistleblowers report disastrous health tragedies.

Sometime this summer, GAP will release its report on how bad. Numerous ailments are known. Many thousands experience everything from skin irritation, vomiting, and rectal bleeding to kidney, liver, central nervous system and brain damage, hypertension, miscarriages, birth defects, and lesions.

Expect an eventual epidemic of cancers and other serious diseases. Expect pathetically little federal or BP help. The oil giant's settlement provides no healthcare. Accepting it means foregoing the right to sue.

Pursuing legal redress means years of delays, obstruction, appeals, and other ways clever lawyers use to deny just compensation.

BP's legacy will linger for decades. Peoples' lives were irreparably harmed. Environmental contamination is severe. Crude oil alone harms human health. Corexit dispersants contain hazardous carcinogens like 2-BTE (2-butoxyethanol).

Dangers they pose depend on length and amount of exposure. Children, pregnant women, the elderly and infirm are most vulnerable. No one's immune. Drinking toxic water or eating contaminated seafood assures any number of current and future health problems.

Blame it on America's rage to drill and irresponsible oil giants like BP. They do it recklessly with no regard for worker safety, environmental protection, or human health.

The company's known for having the industry's worst safety and environmental record. It's responsible for numerous willful negligence incidents. Some cause deaths and injuries. All harm human health and are environmentally destructive.

Only profits matter, not social responsibility or legal obligations. BP's a serial scofflaw. Regulatory laxity and political Washington complicity let it pollute freely with impunity. Once a violator, always one, and it goes way beyond BP. America's a scofflaw's paradise.

On April 19, investigative journalist Greg Palast headlined, "BP Covered Up Blow-out Two Years Prior to Deadly Deepwater Horizon Spill," saying:

Eco-Watch.org "located an eyewitness with devastating new information" about BP covering up a Caspian Sea blowout. Rig workers back the account.

At issue was cutting corners irresponsibly. Coverup let BP replicate its shortcut in America's Gulf. In September 2008, BP's first blowout occurred off Baku, Azerbaijan's coast.

Witnesses told Palast they were evacuated from BP's platform as it filled with dangerous methane. They confirmed:

"(T)here was mud (drill-pipe cement) blown out all over the platform." The cement cap couldn't hold high-pressure gases. They "engulfed the entire platform in methane gas."

Palast learned that "BP failed to notify the International Association of Drilling Contractors (IADC) about the failure of the cement....Notification would have alerted Gulf cement contractor Halliburton that the process of adding nitrogen to cement posed unforeseen dangers."

Cement casing cracked apart in the Caspian. BP promoted "Blow-Out Preventers (BOPs) as a last line of defense in case of a blow-out. But if the casing shatters, the BOPs could be useless."

BP went to "extraordinary lengths" to conceal the first incident. Revealing would show replicating it in the Gulf was "not an unexpected accident but could be considered negligent homicide."

BP buys politicians. It also intimidates employees. An atmosphere of fear prevails. Speaking out ends careers. Few dare.

EcoWatch editor Stefanie Penn Spear said BP negligence caused the "biggest oil spill in US history. It entirely turned the Gulf Coast economy upside down and threatened—and continues to threaten—the health and livelihoods of the people in the Gulf region."

How can something this major be concealed, asked Palest. He cites "pay-offs, threats, political muscle and the connivance of the Bush Administration’s State Department, Exxon and Chevron." Obama officials bear equal guilt.

New York Times contributor Abrahm Lustgarten's op-ed calls BP's Gulf disaster "A Stain That Won't Wash Away," saying:

Accountability's been entirely lacking. Future incidents are assured. Minor fines at most are imposed. Criminal prosecutions don't happen. Warnings issued are toothless.

Scofflaws are free to pollute and harm human health. One disaster follows another. Only profits matter. Recidivism is commonplace. A culture of irresponsibility assures it. So doesn't bipartisan political complicity.

"What the gulf spill has taught us is that no matter how bad the disaster (and the environmental impact), the potential consequences have never been large enough to dissuade BP (or giants in all industries) from placing profits ahead of prudence."

As long as Washington remains corporate occupied territory, nothing ahead will change. Big money runs America. What it says goes. Politicians and regulators salute and obey. It's the American way.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.

Also visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com and listen to cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on the Progressive Radio News Hour on the Progressive Radio Network Thursdays at 10AM US Central time and Saturdays and Sundays at noon. All programs are archived for easy listening.

http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/the-progressive-news-...

So what's the point?

Is jumping up and down, and having tantrums going to make anything better?
No.

So, what are your answers?
Do you want people to stop living, so that you don't see any disasters?
Or are you interested in controlling and regulating industries by the loving gov't that does everything so well?

I really have to wonder what you chicken-littles are really after with all this hair pulling and gnashing of teeth?
You NEVER have any answers.

Why is it not just simply important

to talk about? Maybe we don't have the answer. Maybe nobody does. Maybe that's the point.

Nobody is saying we need government regulation to fix this, but addressing it as a problem is a very important thing to do.

BigT

dude, just relax. The OP is simply posting information. You made a comment and I provided an OPED piece for you to consider.

Stop posting in this page and it will go away.

I am not arguing or fighting.

Just a link will suffice...

not the entire article... Daily Paul rules if I'm not mistaken.

Where do you live HonorGd? I'm in & out of Louisiana all the time, eating the local seafood, not seeing or hearing what you're talking about. I'd say the general economy is moreso the cause of hard times and depression... most people here were mighty happy to get the $30k lump check that BP provided...

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

Fukushima - Ambassador Murata's statement

Letter dtd March 25, 2012
http://akiomatsumura.com/2012/04/682.html

Related posts and May 21 statement
http://enenews.com/ambassador-murata-makes-public-statement-...

When we try to pick out anything by itself, we find it hitched to everything else in the Universe.
~ John Muir

Indeed

There is nothing being done about SFPR #4. NOTHING...

Due to the radiation being emmitted from the 4 "China Syndrome" meltdowns, the building structure is being degraded by the minute. Basically, in lay-mans terms:

The radiation is breaking down the atomic structure of the concrete and steel beams. Minute fractures are occuring that will eventually cause the structure to fail.

This is a ELE in the process.