Organizing a Recount - RP'ers PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE listen up
We need to organize a recount....we can't do it, only RP or his campaign can. But what we must do is form a group to meet with the campaign and show them whatever evidence is available. Sutton is a good start, especially since they now have admitted the real count. I am in NY so I can't do it. We need NH people.
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Posting on this website is useless because the posts scroll down so fast and just a few get to see them.
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I do not know how to start a webpage, if someone does please raise their hand.
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All of this crying and whining is getting no where....we need action and we need to get organized.
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Votes were definitely being skimmed off RP totals. I watched CNN last night for several hours for the sole purpose of watching the counts. They had the counts flipping at the bottom. Did anyone see Paul's numbers get adjusted? I did... .. one shot had RP at 1185 then the next seconds following showed 1165, then 1177, then 1171....examples like this were numerous. Up and down up and down.....
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Please people, if we are to win, we need to get organized and stop posting zillions of useless messages.
Hold your horses
Check the forum on Albret Howard pres. candidate callling for a recount.
We may not have to.
I called the campaign yesterday
I called the campaign yesterday and was told "we'll forward on the information". I wonder if it's getting to Dr. Paul.
We need them to take action.
Rick Adams said that he was going to call Rand Paul to find out what they were planning on doing about this.
Guess we'll have to tune in to RBN tonight to find out.
There is absolutely no question we must demand it
THIS IS A PREVENTION MEASURE!
We are faced with 48 more cases of potential fraud.
We will take a series of steps to prevent future fraud and A RECOUNT IS ONE OF THEM.
This is a mountain to climb and we must do EVERYTHING to assure we get the delegates we need to succeed.
Appearances? WE ARE TELLING THEM TO GO RIGHT AHEAD AND SCREW US!!!
This has to do with sticking up for yourself and sends a far more coherent and and defensible message than "Oh well....I guess it is OK...I don't want to look like a whiner."
Bull sh%$. WE WANT TO WIN.
God helps those who help themselves.
The potential cheats in voting processes throughout the United States must be warned that they might be caught and criminally charged.
What the heck do you think the fraud laws or for?
Unify
THE MUTHA OF ALL BOMBS
I think there is an ounce of reason to have the NH vote recounted. What would Ron Paul do?? Hhhhmmmm? This is what came to me after pondering. "THE MUTHA OF ALL BOMBS". Ron Paul should immediately make a statement demanding a recount in New Hampshire. Then when asked under what grounds do you see the need for a costly recount! Ron will look right at the camera and say:
"Certainly, We The People should be able to test out what we are paying for in these voting machines. The new voting machines and the issues with tampering that are coming to light only demand of us that we at least test these machines once, before we decide this is the future of voting for us. We must have a recount to ensure we are getting what we are paying for.....furthermore I am certain that these vote machine companies would like to clear their name! We are spending trillions of dollars to ensure democracy in Iraq but will not test drive a system we are trusting our freedoms on!.......come on! "
....."On a final note I am challenging the rest of my Republicans and Democrats running this year to pay for it out of their campaign funds! There is no better way to accomplish this test run of the system than with donor campaign funds, certainly each voter who has donated won't mind having a few cents of what they have given to ensure their vote!...."
...."And on a final note, we don't have to raise taxes to do it" :-)
THE MUTHA OF ALL BOMBS!!!!!!!
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ELECTION ANTI-FRAUD SQUAD...
ELECTION ANTI-FRAUD SQUAD...
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Recount Yes,But we need to bring in the Obama camp ........
If we do this in a bipartisan way it will be much better..........If we let it Go it will only get worse...........
I Know we got more votes than the Polydent Ghoul.......
Also if Blomberg gets in its wide open ........The Ghoul would drop out..........anything can happen is this Election all the Way to Nov.
Battle ON......
Anyone Know if we can get the Blimp over the Debate tomorrow? that will be a kick in Faux's butt.........
The old media is trying to break us..............slay them!
Alan Keyes and Duncan Hunter can request recount
Blackboxvoting should contact them
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23881
RECOUNT PROCEDURES IN NH... ONLY CANDIDATES CAN REQUEST RECOUNTS
If any of you are concerned and want to help with this contact HQ and see number one if they are going to request it and number two if you can be of service.
Thank you!
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams
"The use of 'Conspiracy Theorist' or 'Truther' as a derogatory -- as an epithet almost -- is something the propagandists have perfected over the decades, and it's a useful tool for eliminating articulate dissent."
I Need a Statistician! -
I've been trying to crunch some numbers to find a pattern, but so far the percentages are too varied. For instance
Precinct #1: Ghouliani - 1454
Paul - 1230
Other - 456 (37% of Paul Votes/4.5% of Total)
Precinct #2: Ghouliani - 418
Paul - 288
Other - 618 (200%of Paul Votes/10% of Total)
Precinct #3 Ghouliani - 388
Paul - 369
Other - 97 (26% of Paul Votes/3.7% of Total)
Those are just some samples out of dozens. But, it is these "Other" votes that in many cases would have put Paul ahead of the Ghouli. Perhaps there is a perfectly logical reason, but I would love to know who the "write-in" candidate was (especially since Tancredo was on the ticket). Of course, I could just be totally wacko.
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recount idea sucks
instead, for some invigoration, look at what the folks in st louis managed to pull off....
click link then click view slideshow
http://pictures.sprintpcs.com/?mivt=oEPrJZPSYk8n9a6LU0sL&sha...
Big ass billboard....40ft by 80ft......50,000 - 70,000 cars per day.....
and there are 8 others in the st. louis area and they only cost 8000 total.
Recount that
This is B>S people
Why do WE have to do anything. Ron Paul's campaign needs to get of THEIR A$$@#%^ and fight. There are already reports of vote fraud for Ron and Obama. This is not just about him. This is our entire DEMOCRACY. If it can happen in NH, it will happen in the other states. Stop with the Polls. If Ron's Wants to be President and if his Campaign is worth their salt, they better act. If not, we are all wasting our time. We need to treat the Campaign like the Americans wast to treat the Iraq Government. IF YOU DON'T START DOING YOUR JOB, WE ARE GOING TO START PULLING BACK TROOPS AND MONEY. I'm tired of this S%$^t. If he doesn't speak up, Clinton will be our President. Follow the logic:
This is All a GAME. FOLLOW ME> ABC is backing Clinton. During a PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE someone brings out the fact that people don't like Hillary (remeber the woman vote). Later MSM reported that she was attacked by Obama and Edwards even though see actually attacked them and Obama did not really respond to her (remember the woman vote). Next, all of a sudden a woman ask Hillary a question that caused her to TEAR UP (remember the woman vote) and immediately afterwards she attacked Obama. Then Fox's newpaper (which backs Hillary) Put out a harsh picture of Hillary on the front page allow with other media outlets (which the CLINTONS have a lot of pull with (remember the woman vote). Next she attacks Obama again (with lies) and Bill attacks Obama (with lies). All of a sudden Hillary comes back with the MAJORITY OF THE WOMAN VOTE. Now if you do research right now you will see there is evidence of VOTER FRAUD right now in New Hampshire. The VOTING MACHINES gave Hillary a 7% advantage over Obama. They have proof that Ron Paul's votes weren't even counted. He actually BEAT Rudy. And to cover there tracks they had to WOMAN who asked Hillary the question say that she voted for Obama. YEAH RIGHT. This is OUR DEMOCRACY that will be stolen from us again. The MSM will not report this. Bush is backing Hillary. The MSM is backing Hillary. They need her to WIN. Make a NOTE* Dick Morris (who was Bill Clinton Brain) told Sean Hannity that the Clintons are going to pull a Sista' Soldja' on Obama ( this is not how you spell her name but who cares). This is a stunt that Bill Clinton used to Beat Jesse Jackson. He played to American's RACISM towards Blacks. Dick Morris said it will be very subtle. NOW- If you listen to all the PUNDITS today, what are they saying. PEOPLE said they would support Obama during the polls but voted for Hillary because they did not want to vote for a BLACK MAN. Since this was a primary and not a public cacus, they did not have to worry about anybody seeing them change votes.
That's right Figa, At some
That's right Figa,
At some point the campaign needs to fight... as do we on the ground.
We do it by talking with people, putting up signs, and talking with people.
The campaign seems a bit too passive and it was ok at first, but now it's time to stand up and and let the powers that be know the campaign isn't gonna stand by as they trample us down.
The RON PAUL Campaign is all of us!
We have to do this because the Ron Paul campaign is each and everyone of us!
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My Tally on 12 Hand Counted Counties
My Tally, from the numbers at CNN, on 12 hand counted Counties in comparison to the election overall that were listed as such on the Ronpaulforums.
Candidate - # of Hand Votes - Share - Overall election share - Hand share/Overall share
MCCAIN 1496 0.40487 0.379 1.068262396
ROMNEY 780 0.21109 0.3234 0.652739876
HUCK 547 0.14803 0.1138 1.300860185
GULI 256 0.06928 0.0876 0.79089971
PAUL 568 0.15372 0.0778 1.975851477
THOMPSON 48 0.01299 0.0122 1.064797356
Total votes - 3695
I have the names of the counties used, if anyone is interested.
I can't verify if they are hand counted there and I don't know enough about statistics to say if these numbers are significant, but I will say that RP getting a 97.5% higher by hand, if these counties are a good representative of the whole state set, with 3695 votes being, I think, with in 1.64% plus/minus accuracy looks very odd to my eye.
Here...
...Is the difference between hand counted votes and Diebold counted votes...
Hand counted votes have Paul at 15% average...
Not a single hand counted town had less then 10% vote for Paul.
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Here is a list of the Hand counted vote tallies.
richmond is hand count 34% for Dr. Paul
lyman is hand count 28.7% for Dr. Paul
Orange is hand count 25% for Dr. Paul
Harts location is hand count 25% for Dr. Paul
wentworth is hand count 24% for Dr. Paul
goshen is hand count 17.68% for Dr. Paul
marlow is hand count 16.6% for Dr. Paul
cornish is hand count 14.8% for dr. Paul
Rumney is hand count 14.5% for Dr. Paul
croydon is hand count 14 % for Dr. Paul
dorchester is hand count 13.89% for Dr. Paul
effingham is hand count 13% for Dr. Paul
albany is hand count 12.9% for Dr. Paul
antrim is hand count 12% for Dr. Paul
south hampton is hand count 12% for Dr. Paul
sullivan is hand count 12.61% for Dr. Paul
troy is hand count 12.21% for Dr. Paul
mason is hand count 11.88% for Dr. Paul
newport is hand count 11.45% for Dr. Paul
charlstown is hand count 11.3% for Dr. Paul
Allenstown is hand count 11.16% for Dr. Paul
bristol is hand count 11% for Dr. Paul
warren is hand count 11% for Dr. Paul
Strafford is hand count 11% for Dr. Paul
washington is hand count 11.02% for Dr. Paul
lancaster is hand count 10.9% for Dr. Paul
springfield is hand count 10.6% for Dr.Paul
wilton is hand count 10.37% for Dr. Paul
Northfield is hand count 10.3% for Dr. Paul
mont vernon is hand count 10.25% for Dr. Paul
So why is it that in Diebold counted towns he barely registers?
In some towns he has zero votes.
Why doesn't he have zero votes in any hand counted Towns?
So the Truth Comes Out
that there is something wrong with these city election reports. Others have pointed out other statistical impossibilities.
Exactly...
It doesn't take a Stat genious to see that NO HAND COUNTED COUNTIES HAD A 0 vote FOR RON!!
Blantent and I just chiped in to the recount.
3rd place
So, by your average Ron Paul would have at least 3rd place if the average continued the same with the counting machines. Hmmmm.This is making me sick to my stomach that the campaign is doing nothing!
That means 3rd place for these counties
Fraud my friends, fraud....
We Must Do Something!
Listen, I love Ron Paul! However, I feel that if his campaign does nothing about this OBVIOUS fraud then they are letting us down. My reasoning is this...We are out every time we get a chance bustin' our @sses to get him elected, but what for? If we are going to be cheated, what is the point? Honestly. He needs to realize that it's not about the number of votes it is about the PRINCIPLE of the whole thing. Put your place in the evil doer's shoes. "Oooh, they knew we fucked with the vote and still did nothing. We got 'em now." Then they continue to rig the further elections. If he does not stand up now, I truly feel that all hope is lost. He has to let them know that it will not be stood for. He has an excellent reason to do something; HELL, two counties that were reporting ZERO votes had 31 and 25 respectively. If they did it to those two, who is to say that they didn't do it all the way up line with some algorithm. I am a computer programmer and I know how this shit works. BUT, that is beside the point. That would be a bonus. The real deal is to let them know that this is a revolution!! In the revolution, they took turns returning vollies. THIS IS OUR VOLLEY! Period! If it is about the money, who cares, we can raise him more money! Dr. Paul, please do something. These people are mocking you and laughing at you and now they are cheating you! Don't stand for it. It is NOT human error! 1 to 5 votes misplaced may be human error, but not 31 and 25. Please, order a recount! Thank you!
grass roots protect the vote
debbie
OK, we are a smart, innovative bunch of Ron Paul supporting freedom lovers. We have put Ron Paul on the map with regard to name recognition, we have broken fund raising records, now it is time to change the course of history. We, the people need to put into place a grassroots organization that would protect the vote. We need to put in place honest people (not affiliated with the government- local-state-or federal-) in every voting precinct in every county in every State. These people would observe the vote count in a neutral manner and then report the numbers to a database where the public could have access. This activity would keep the vote honest, and serve to discourage voting fraud. In addition to this, the grass roots could work to implement a voting system that would be more transparent. I think paper ballots are good. I am tired of the same old dog and pony show every 4 years! The clarity of the voting system has been questioned for some time now, let's not talk about it, let's do something!
The Ron Paul people are diverse and talented, I am sure that if we put our heads together, we can implement a program that will used for many years to come. If you are questioning how such a mammoth task can be done, remember, we have a blimp, broken fund raising records, written letters, sign waves, rallies, marches, a large selection of fabulous songs from fabulous and talented artists, an amazing painting from another fabulous artist, sign makers, car painters. If we cannot do this, then no one can! Hillary, Obama, Thompson, McCain, Edwards, Huckaby, Mitt and all their supporters cannot match us for our passion, intelligence, creativity, and devotion to truth, freedom, and the Constitution. I will do anything to help Ron Paul and the grassroots. Anyone with me?
debbie
Screenshots
I have screenshots of the original Boston Globe web-page BEFORE they "corrected" it.
I have posted them all here:
http://www.chaban.ripside.com/forum/index.php?topic=18.msg45...
Also posted are screen shots of (most of) the google-map mouse-over precinct totals (which correlate with the official results), and a link to the current page which shows the corrected Associated Press chart.
Screenshots - Andover my county count for libertybroadcast.org
These are the results I posted on libertybroadcastnetwork.org last night - results called in to me by clerk MarJorie . .. (omitted last name)
These were hand counted:
Paul - 42
Romney - 95
Huckabee - 73
McCain - 186
Giuliani - 44
Thompson - 7
Hunter - 8
Other - 0
Dems (just for fun top three)
Clinton - 192
Obama - 270
Edwards - 96
Sorry...
duplicate post
Dare to beat the system!
Could we start to write letters to the campaign staff (or send an e-mail)? If that doesn't get them to check this out, could the disenfranchised NH voters (both R and D) start a petition drive for a new primary? I'm broke for the next three months (taxes higher than expected), but I can still help.
But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
There is no difference between an authoritarian government from the right or the left...F. A.Schaeffer
What about us?
Why can't we organize a physical recount of Ron Paul voters and then match our numbers against the totals?
Great idea!
This guy's a genius. People ought to start paying attention to him.
;-)
ha!
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