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The Irish Slave Trade – The Forgotten “White” Slaves

They came as slaves; vast human cargo transported on tall British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.

Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. Slave owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. They were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.

We don’t really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? After all, we know all too well the atrocities of the African slave trade. But, are we talking about African slavery? King James II and Charles I led a continued effort to enslave the Irish. Britain’s famed Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one’s next door neighbor.

The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.

Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white.

From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s population fell from about 1,500,000 to 600,000 in one single decade. Families were ripped apart as the British did not allow Irish dads to take their wives and children with them across the Atlantic. This led to a helpless population of homeless women and children. Britain’s solution was to auction them off as well.

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Magellan was Catholic

Christopher Columbus was Catholic

The Catholics came to America and built churches, they accepted the Native Indians Cheifs as the ruling government. The Catholic Church has witnessed governments come and go, and so they do not believe in any king but Jesus Christ.

The Catholic Church had settled and ruled what was to become the USA since the 1600s. California had 13 missions, actually the west coast from Chili to Russia was lined with Catholic Churches and still is.

The Catholic Church was accused by the protestants of using the Indians as slaves (which was not true) and the Civil War fought a front in CA against the Church in the name of freeing Native Americans from the Church, where they worked growing crops, grapes, hearding cattle, horses, sheep, making barrels, baskets.. life was actually very good, but the protestants had other plans, and it took wars and lies that we live with today.

The most facinating tome I have read is, Tha Catechism of the Catholic Church. It will change you world dramtically.

Slavery has been around since day dot

and all cultures have used slavery in one form or another.
Many Irish seeking a better life in the colonies were sold passage (at enormous cost) on ships that were then scuttled by their own Irish crew, who escaped to safety, leaving the passengers to drown.
Nothing has changed as we see the same thing with today's modern boat people. God only knows how many of them have drowned before they reached their destinations.
History doesn't really change, just the means gets more sophisticated.

Since discovering Dr. Paul 4

Since discovering Dr. Paul 4 1/2 years ago, I have been inspired to relearn my American history as well but am using several sources. None are new public school textbooks! So far, what I've learned is that Columbus' mentioned his first intentions of enslaving the natives. Then came the white slaves being brought over in the early 1600s. In the history books, many times they are only mentioned as "indentured servants" (mostly Irish) who were given their freedom after about 7 years of "slavery". I had not heard about the prisoners sent over (even in the history books). But I did learn that African slaves didn't reach the mainland until about the mid to late 1600s. I'm no historian but trying to learn as best I can because my public education of the 1980s was quite lacking I have found out.

the Native Caribbean People of Haiti...

...were the very first slaves in this Hemisphere. Almost all gone within one generation because of the brutality of the Spanish conquerors. Thus the notion that Indians do not make good slaves. But the Native slavery is another under-reported group in slavery studies. It went on and on, in both Americas, and it is still going on as child slavery. Just a different language: "A family X wanted a Indian boy. So they got one."

I am glad we talk about it. Books on Slavery of Indians and by Indians:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Indian-Slave-Trade-1670-1717/dp/03...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0895872986/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp...

http://www.amazon.com/Indian-Slavery-Colonial-America-Gallay...

Ron Paul ... forever.

another interesting 'twist' on this--

is:

http://www.randomhouse.com/features/cahill/irish.html

The fact is that often 'enlightened' people are 'repaid' by barbarians for their enlightenment--

History has been perverted. Seldom is it known how truly superior was the Persian empire (in learning, etc.); interesting to note that, while the English alphabet is Roman, the English use Arabic numerals; also, it is not well-known how much true civilization was, at one time, found in Africa.

Whenever a group 'conquers', they rewrite history--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Thank you

Honestly, even with all the research and love for history I have, This timeline and fact slipped by me somehow. You have sparked a curiosity that I must now go and satisfy. Now I am curious exactly what would have been lost if this had not happened,What works? What documents? Thank you for the quest,Lol.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

And you can still hear the Irish accent in the islands

If you close your eyes and listen to an Irish person speak and a Jamaican speak, it is hard to distinguish the two unless you are a native of the areas.

very true...

...and confirmed in linguistic studies.

Ron Paul ... forever.

agreed--

the Irish accent is heard all over the world; it's more dominant linguistically than English--

Though there are Scandinavian and German influences (not to mention Hispanic in the southwest) you can hear some of Irish in the west, southeast and northern great lakes area--

Irish:

settled the southeast (probably most descended from 'indentured servants')
migrated west and took that accent with them
went to the north to work in lumber camps--

always poor, often persecuted, yet the American accent is much closer to Irish than to English--

amusing--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Thousands landed in Texas

When arriving to America during the Civil War.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

I never knew this!

Thank you! All you D.P. people are such an excellent resource of info! I also have a good amount of Irish blood in me. Does that account for some of the freedom fighting gene?

Thank you

Daily Paul is such a special place.
I might not have any Irish blood in me but I have Irish freedom fighting spirit.

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A great post...and I'm Irish

A great post...and I'm Irish to the core, no matter which direction you look all you will see is Irish, from my head to my toes to the tips of my elbows!

Mo chroí roinnte, anseo agus in Éirinn

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"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

Thank you Republicae

I love Irish music.
This is one of my favorite bands - The Corrs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ov6USLXwGA

I often listen to this music while composing poetry.

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Some stuff to try...

The Pogues (Shane MacGowan)
The Popes (Shane MacGowan)
Dropkick Murphys
Flogging Molly
Darby OGill
The Fenians
The Dubliners

If you like any of that, let me know and I will give you more... :) I'm genetically Irish with punk tendencies... lol...

And thank you for the post. There was a time when we were considered worth less than black slaves... Our ancestors were used as canon fodder to fight the civil war... And to this day Ireland remains occupied...

It's nice when someone notices... ;)

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yeah - and a note about Solidarity

I hear you. It is good to be acknowledged. Thank you for the share.

I was born in the post-War2 Soviet Poland in a border country to a Silesian mother and Polish father. Hitler's plan was to make Poles the slaves of the Reich - or kill the ones who objected. They killed three millions of Poles from 1939-1945. There was no Poland between 1795 to 1989, except for the 20 years of Independence between the two wars. My paternal grandparents went to Russian schools, and the maternal ones to German schools. The Silesian lands were colonized by German farmer-settlers since about 1,oooAD and the last Slavic prince was germanized in 1526. I am a linguist, no surprise, and till this day I do not comprehend how the Silesians preserved their Slavic language intact over those 1,ooo years in the sea of German power, separated from Poles - who in fact make fun of the dialect to this day. My grandmothers lived 30 miles apart - but there was hardly a dish they had in common in their cooking. I noticed that many years after.

I had to learn Russian as part of the curriculum. German was not allowed at any stage of the education. In 1989 the long long movement of the Polish Solidarity threw out the Soviet regime and now Poland is free. So this is a tale about the happy ending - via SOLIDARITY.

I wish we'll hang on to SOLIDARIZING in these coming months at all cost and win back this country with the Ron Paul movement. We must end the internal civil war of the two parties now, in 2012.

Ron Paul ... forever.

Breaks my heart. Makes me weep.

God bless the Irish people.

Thank you brother

I must admit I grew up being inspired by Bobby Sands...

as a Polish freedom fighter I always looked at the Irish their struggle as an inspiration.
Matter of fact I almost married an Irish woman.

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wolfe's picture

You should have...

No two days are the same... :) (I stole that joke....) lol

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Republicae's picture

I do love the old songs, sung

I do love the old songs, sung in The Irish with Bodhran, Pipes, Tin Whistle, Fiddle, Clàrsach and Tiompán.

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"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

Dear Republicae

I must admit you are my favorite poster on the Daily Paul.
Your knowledge is so vast and you can put all so well in writing.
It would be so wonderful if you got into some high office to be able to effect change.

Just wrote this poem thinking of you and other freedom loving souls here:
http://www.dailypaul.com/236660/lion-sleeping-with-a-lamb-in...

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sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
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Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Republicae's picture

Thank you so very much and I

Thank you so very much and I have saved the poem to print. I dare say that I might be a bit too radical for high office, at least in this era, had I been born in the 1750s or even the 1830s and came of age when Revolutionary Spirit of the two Wars for Independence were fought then perhaps I would have had a chance to serve such a position of influence. Today, I would be far too much of a firebrand to the sensibilities of this present political torpidity.

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"We are not a nation, but a union, a confederacy of equal and sovereign States" John C. Calhoun

You are perfect for high office

I would volunteer to campaign for you.
And I'm sure many others would too.

Think about it.

Rebel for Liberty is a friend of all human beings in America and all over the world.

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sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
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wolfe's picture

I'd vote for ya... :)

You articulate the monetary points so much better than I do... And clearly understand all of the more subtle points of libertarianism...

Hell, if you need a campaign manager, I would promise to tone down my rhetoric.... lol... :)

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Republicae's picture

Hehee...thanks, I am sure

Hehee...thanks, I am sure that it would be you who would be trying to tone down my rhetoric...

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wolfe's picture

lol...

Maybe we could tone down each other's rhetoric, lol...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMjJcZ6Ib6Q

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I do as well...

But I am almost ashamed to admit that I don't speak it. My family even lost the accent 2 generations ago.

When I saw your initial comment, it occurred to me that is probably why I enjoy your comments more than most. It seems to me, most of us have very similar outlooks on things.

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Republicae's picture

Is mór agam mar sin de do

Is mór agam mar sin de do chuid focal go mór, is féidir do chroí a líonadh i gcónaí le an-áthas ar an nGaeilge.

(I so appreciate your words greatly, may your heart always be filled with the joy of the Irish.)

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wolfe's picture

Thank you so much...

A wonderful blessing, thank you.

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Another forgotten reality

An interesting read from an interesting source about the forgotten slave trade of Native Americans.

http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl...

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.