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My Memorial Day Grope, Courtesy of TSA

I’ll admit I get an uneasy feeling nowadays whenever I walk up to the security theater stage in an airport. Call me a nitpicker, but watching the throngs of people being shuttled through the futuristic-looking, radiation spewing body-scanners while security “agents” dressed in blue pretending to be police officers sneer at everyone like we’re all terrorists just gives me an icky feeling inside. With that in mind, it’s generally my goal to get through TSA security checkpoints and move on to more comforting places like overpriced airport bars as quickly and painlessly as possible. Since the introduction of the body-scanners and “enhanced” pat downs in 2010, I have largely been able to avoid the false choice of radiation and a naked photo, or a blue-gloved grope down by simply keeping my eyes open and making sure to shift myself over to a security lane where metal detectors are in use instead of body scanners. The very fact that it’s often possible for passengers to choose which lane to go through would seem to undermine the TSA’s entire logic (or complete lack thereof) behind the supposed necessity of body-scanners and pat downs, but I’ll save that rant for another day. I did have one pat down several months ago, and while I found the process of being treated like a prisoner a bit humiliating and degrading, I didn’t feel sexually violated in any way.

Last night, however, I had a bit of a different experience with TSA while returning home from a Memorial Day weekend trip. While I did see some metal detectors in use as I approached the security area with my girlfriend, by the time we had our ID’s checked they had been roped off and everyone was being directed towards the body scanners. My girlfriend and I, having concerns over the radiation from the machines, both elected to “opt out” of the body scan. We informed the agent tending the machine, and he called in “one female opt out and one male opt out” on his cute little walkie talkie. My girlfriend was taken back by a female agent fairly quickly, while I waited around for five minutes or so until finally the Supervisor came over and directed me into the area behind the machines and introduced me to the agent who would be screening me. The agent directed me to the area where my girlfriend had gathered our belongings, and described the pat down procedure. As I had done with my previous pat down a few months earlier, when the agent asked me if I had any sensitive areas I simply replied “my genitals”. He seemed to half smirk as if I was making some kind of joke, but I certainly wasn’t. Ask any man who’s taken a football in the groin – those things are sensitive!

At this point, I’m going to let the rest of my story be told by the email I sent to TSA, since the “Customer Comment Card” they gave me to fill out just wasn’t long enough. Once I got past the absurdity of being referred to as a “customer” ( I don’t remember attempting to voluntary purchase a product or service from these folks, but again maybe I’m a nitpicker!) and the irony of the email address (TSA-ContactCenter@Dhs.gov), I sat down and wrote the following describing my experience. I’ve XXXX’d out the actual places and names involved to protect the innocent. Please note that I use some graphic detail here, so if you’re uncomfortable reading words describing male reproductive organs, you’ve been warned.

Continue to read my email to TSA

UPDATE: I received a phone call from a TSA Supervisor in response to my complaint. I posted about the conversation in this thread




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I discussed this

on a recent radio appearance here

http://lionsofliberty.com/2012/06/04/a-tale-of-tsa-terror/

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Our experience

This is a shocking story. It interested me, because of an incident that happened a few months ago. We were going through security at Edinburgh Airport in Scotland, and passengers were selected at random for a pat down. They don't take people into rooms - they just pat you down with everyone else standing in line. It's no big deal, usually. However on this occasion, my wife was patted down. I wasn't watching, but she was not happy, and told the lady who administered the pat down that she had never before been subjected to such an "intrusive" pat down. The lady replied that if my wife wanted to speak to complain, she could do so. My wife chose not to - I guess because she felt that she had made her point, and complaining would not achieve anything. But I wonder if maybe she should have complained.

That is AWESOME

Makes me wanna join the force just so I can use that one! Good job!

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I made the TSA look stupid

My last time at the airport, I opted for the patdown. While the TSA agent was putting on his gloved, I looked him in the eyes, identified myself as an officer, I stated that if my genitals were touched in any way, I would place him under arrest For sexual assault. After a brief pause, he left and returned with a supervisor. Long story short, my genitals were not touched that day

Sex descrimination

In Washington state where I live it is illegal for a government to discriminate against people on the basis of their sex. The fact that TSA insists that male goons fondle only male passengers and that female goonettes only fondle female passengers is sexual discrimination. The US Supreme Court has ruled that separate but equal is inherently unequal. I asked Washington's Attorney General, Rob McKenna, to look into this matter and I instead received a sophomoric form letter about how we must all do our part to beat terrorism. Rob McKenna is not anyone I would ever consider voting for for any position.

Re: "Customer". The TSA

Re: "Customer". The TSA "security service" is included in the package you purchased from the airline.

I'm sure we'd all like to buy the transportation ala carte. B-) Unfortunately they're bundled.

= = = =
"Obama’s Economists: ‘Stimulus’ Has Cost $278,000 per Job."

That means: For each job "created or saved" about five were destroyed.

opt out

opt out = smash my nards please

i think if more people filed lawsuits against the tsa agent that groped them there would be less groping

i dont fly and really dont wish too now because of this fact that we are all sheeple

"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

Catcher's cup

I suppose one could wear a catcher's cup to protect their gonads from abuse.

No, I'll just refrain from flying.

I think that everybody who flies, including private planes, military aircraft and even Air Force One, should have identical screening procedures. If the Obama girls got felt-up every time they took multi-million dollar vacations at the taxpayers expense, perhaps the groping would stop.

Does anyone here remember

just a short while back, an Asian woman was being groped by the TSA dirtbag and when her breast was squeezed, she returned the favor and squeezed real hard on the TSA agent's breast.
She did get arrested I believe, but I haven't heard anything since.
She had courage to do that and I know this won't happen but if everyone did the same this tyranny would end in the airports.

Wherever you are Ma'am, I salute you for your courage to stand up for yourself. Something most Americans will not do.

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

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When I must fly, I wear prominent Ron Paul

stickers, one on my jacket that must be removed, one on my shirt. On my last trip body scanners were at every line, so I opted for a pat down rather than be irradiated by untrustworthy government agents. The TSA guard glowered but called for a grope agent.

She was very polite, even smiling, quite fast and gentle and "explained" that the machine radiation is "less than a cell phone." I explained to her that I don't believe government stories about anything. She continued to be very polite.

I wonder if these agents tend to be more cautious and polite in dealing with obviously disapproving Ron Paul supporters. Do they worry more about being recorded/reported? It would be interesting to hear from others who wear gear identifying themselves as active TSA opponents.

TSA Rape Info Card

Get the TSA Rape Card and pass it out at airports.

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Thanks

For all of the supportive comments. I am giving hard thought to what to do as I am set to take a 2 week trip out of the country with my girlfriend in a month. I can't imagine willingly putting myself through this again. I'm contemplating alternatives such as rerouting my trip through Tijuana and driving there to fly out. Of course I've already paid for tickets on a different airline so this would likely cost me thousands.

Has anyone ever wore a jock strap through TSA?

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sensitive areas

I giggled, too! After my tree stand broke, and I broke L-2 suffering nerve damage called cauda equina syndrome, I have been "numb" on the left half of my body from the groin, on down. Funny thing is, the jewels are innervated from the nerves higher up, near the kidney. They are still VERY EASILY INFLICTED WITH PAIN! Result is, only half of my shaft is sensitive! Even at 59yo, that good half makes all of me work. No Viagra needed!! Yeehah!

TSA...

Government Sponsored Terrorism, same as 9/11/2001. Talk about adding insult to injury. RP2012 End This Government Bullshit!

9/11 was an inside job .....time to get some answers..RP 2012

opt-out must secretly mean guilty

at what point will the federal protection of all the cronies at the banks spark an actual intellectual reaction from public America?

are they going to have to tattoo numbers on our knuckles?

Americans are lining up against their own interest and stabbing each other in the back for stepping out of line.

I can see it now:

"did you check out Justin Timberlakes new clothing line? OMG!.. hey look that guy in a Ron Paul shirt is stepping out of line what is with these freaks in our country. ugh... so back to justin."

"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws."
- Mayer Amschel Rothschild

"give me control of my own permaculture and I care a lot about what makes law"

-Permaculture Republican

private jets have no tsa

I was talking about the TSA with my aunt. When I told her that it has to be hurting the airline industry profits, she said it was. She has a friend who works for a company that leases private jets. The private jet business has been booming since the TSA pat downs started. If you fly on one of his jets, there is no TSA. You just walk on the plane. We really are entering a fascist society where laws don' t apply to the wealthy and those connected to the government.

private jet to avoid TSA groping

I was just looking at this the other day and was pleasantly surprised to see that not only is the private jet business booming, but also that a person can get a ticket for under $100 for some flights (e.g. Branson to Nashville).

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Good information

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‎18 USC 2236 Whoever, being

‎18 USC 2236

Whoever, being an officer, agent, or employee of the United States or any department or agency thereof, engaged in the enforcement of any law of the United States, searches any private dwelling used and occupied as such dwelling without a warrant directing such search, //or// maliciously and without reasonable cause searches any other building or //property without a search warrant//, shall be fined under this title for a first offense; and, for a subsequent offense, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

‎"Certainly all those who have framed written Constitutions contemplate them as forming the fundamental and paramount law of the nation, and consequently the theory of every such government must be that an act of the Legislature repugnant to the Constitution is void."

Maybury v. Madison 5 U.S. 137 (1803)

"The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime." Miller v. US, 230 F 486, at 489.

49 USC 40103(a)(2) A citizen of the United States has a public right of transit
through the navigable airspace.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. - Amendment IV, US Constitution

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I wonder

What they would do if while backstage you just stripped down stark naked?

Don't ask how I know this

But they demand you get dressed or they call the airport police. If you refuse, it escalates from there. Despite all this, they still perform the invasive patdown afterward.

I had one experience with the TSA, back when my

father died. (This was before the Invasion of the Body Scanners and the TSA invasion of privacy known as the pat-down) They used a wand to scan me, and in the odd Providence of the trip, the airport 'muzak' at the time was Kyrie Elieson. It was all I could do to keep from either crying or laughing. Thankfully I was able to exercise self-control and do neither. Never again!

But that man should play the tyrant over God, and find Him a better man than himself, is astonishing drama indeed!~~D. Sayers
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

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I wish more would join the boycott.

I haven't flown since these scanners were installed. There have been times where this had resulted in difficulty. It is also a little sad that I will not be able to travel and see more of the world as I might like. But I feel that I owe it to myself and my future children to not give in. How is it that people are willing to give in to this?

I have to for my job

I have always hated flying...not because of the prodding though..However, now I have a job that requires me to be anywhere in N. AMerica at the drop of a hat. It wasn't until I started travelling regularly that I started to hate the TSA. I didn't understand why I felt so awful every time I walked up to the screening agent. Then it hit me, its because I am being treated with no dignity, no respect, and all I had done was buy a ticket to go to another state. My liberty was being stripped and feels bad deep down...its hard to put your finger on it. I didn't understand why a normal, upstanding citizen whom never had a record of anything, born and raised here, travels two or three times a month, needed to scoured every time I boarded a plane. I despise the TSA. I wish I could avoid flying but I can't if I want to make a living. Mind you I am a sales person, one of the true free market jobs you can have in my opinion. I earn what I work for.

I was in a similar position

And I put up with the abuse for years. At some point I decided it wasn't worth it anymore and I resigned from my job, but only after making every effort to find a way to avoid flying.

Now, I will never fly again unless the TSA is abolished or they reverse their policies and procedures.

Choices

You obviously value money more than your dignity/freedom/self respect etc. and make choices that you know on some level are wrong choices. If you have an employer, tell it that you refuse to surrender your constitutional rights just to be employed. I don't believe an employer is allowed to punish you for insisting on your constitutional rights. You employer has the option of using other means of transportation such as automobile, train or private plane and I believe has an obligation to provide you with those options rather than insist that you surrender your rights.

Now go do the right thing.

In a perfect world

Where I didn't have a mortgage to pay, or kids to feed, I would make those kind of demands. However, I run a small office. I am responsible for keeping it alive with money made by sales of our products. My travels take me as far north as the Yukon and as far south as Chile. If I refuse to fly, I would be out of a job..which would in turn put 5 more people that work for me out of a job. In addition, my freedom that I have at work allows me to put ron paul signs all over the windows, make phone calls on behalf of the campaign, sell to cities such as Lake Jackson, earn everything that I deserve and pay the consequences for lack of work. We don't participate in group anything. All of the staff gets their own stipend for health care and retirement to pay the way they choose for their own benefits. Our business couldn't be any more "free market" then it is. I fight against lobbying in my business by pointing out hypocrisy in purchasing decisions, I am able to donate money to Ron Paul's campaign from the work that I do and I am able to meet new people everyday all over this land and discuss liberty. A ron paul magnet is in my suitcase at all times and is slapped on the back of the bumper of whatever rental car I have, wherever I am. I hate flying...but it is necessary for me to survive. So, I don't think of myself as not being a patriot for flying for work. I literally have no choice until I find another line of work...but I happen to like what I do. I can only continue to try and stop what happens at the airports and help campaign with the people that are against it.

Right, you made choices

My sister lives 1600 miles away and is cross with me for not flying to see her and I would like to see her but I like freedom more than I like seeing my sister. I made a choice.

People who claim that they "have" to fly for work are making excuses for not being willing to make the difficult choices. If enough people would be willing to make significant sacrifices and simply stop flying, the TSA would go away. As long as people value things more than they do their freedoms, they will continue to lose their freedoms.

If there were a law that said that you had to engage in a particular line of work and that line of work required you to fly then you might have a point. I doubt that is the case and you have other options available. You however are willing to tolerate the abuse so that you can maintain the lifestyle you want. That is okay. You have made your choice. But please understand that making that choice has larger ramifications.

Okay,

So do you recommend my family and I take to the streets on principle? The self righteousness of some people is down right mean. Under your idea, should we all just sit in a corner until everything works out? I could make a thousand arguments that driving in a car undermines liberty and freedom. For pete's sake, no one even actually owns their car. The state does. Should I only walk? Oh wait, maybe the sidewalks were built with stimulus money by the federal government...maybe I should boycott that to...

Seriously, I am not going to be homeless, my kids go hungry.. for not choosing to fly. I think that is flat out moronic...and that is my choice.

It is sad

It is sad that your skill set is so limited that you are only capable of performing one function in the market. I pity you.