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Poland beekeepers kick Monsanto out of the hive, successfully ban bee-killing GM corn

(NaturalNews) A significant health freedom victory has taken place in the European nation of Poland, where all plantings of Monsanto's MON810, a genetically-modified (GM) variety of maize (corn) that produces its own built-in Bt insecticide in every kernel, have been officially banned.

The decision comes after thousands of protesters recently took to the streets in demonstration of the undeniable fact that both MON810 and the chemicals applied to it are at least partially responsible for causing Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD), the worldwide phenomenon in which entire swarms of honey bees disappear or turn up dead.

"The decree is in the works. It introduces a complete ban on the MON810 strain of maize in Poland," said Polish Agriculture Minister Marek Sawicki, who also explained to the press that pollen from MON810 appears to be responsible for further devastating the already dwindling bee population throughout the country and elsewhere.

According to reports, Poland's decision to ban MON810 makes it the first nation to formally acknowledge that Monsanto's GM corn is definitively linked to CCD. It also affirms the findings of several earlier studies that have identified a link between Bt GM crops and bee deaths, including independent research conducted by Pennsylvania beekeeper John McDonald.

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fantastic!

exciting news! a beginning, anyway.

Next step is to make it somehow illegal, or minimally actionable legally (with serious monetary damages), for Monsanto seeds to CONTAMINATE anyone else's property/crops.

The burden must be shifted to Monsanto (& the likes of them) so they will be held responsible for any seeds showing up on another's crops/land.

It's ludicrous that right now, in US/Canada anyway, Monsanto actually sues farmers who don't want GM seeds/plants on their land and who end up with GM contamination -- and Monsanto wins based on patent violations?? That absurd trend must be stopped, and liability turned around on them.

Let's see if Poland can get that going...

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We Need to Vote with our Pocketbook!

Instead of looking to government to stop the spread of GMO crops, we can put a stop to it in the following ways:
1. Find out the crops that have the highest risk of being GMO. I beleive corn and soy are the top two. Do not buy anything that has these products in them. Read the ingredients and don't buy the product if it has ie: corn syrup, soy lecithin, etc. unless the product is 100% certified organic.
2. Initiate a boycott. The American Family Association took on Proctor and Gamble for supporting behaviors that were offensive to conservative Christians. In this discussion, the reasons they boycotted P&G are not the issue as much as the process they undertook. I beleive they contacted P&G and let them know about the boycott and why. They sent around an email or letter to everyone on their mailing list to boycott 3 items from a list of products. These people forwarded it on to their family and friends, and a lot of people chose to boycott everything on the list. This had a tremendous impact and got P&G's attention.
In the case of GMO products, we could contact big companies like Frito Lay (Dorito corn chips) and let them know we want them to go with organic corn and eliminate GMO corn in their products, or we will boycott them. We could also hit other big companies that use GMO products. I saw a documentary that stated that Europe banned GMO products within 2 weeks after a scientist who worked in this field reavealed how bad GMO foods were. We have power as consumers!

I like your ideas too

But I don't think it is unreasonable to have criminal penalties for people that contaminate the food supply with genetic pollution. Their are irreversible cross species transfers of DNA, sequences engineered into crops end up in your gut bacteria whether you like it or not. We are all guinea pigs. Even a lot of organic is already contaminated, there is no testing done for that you know (Europe does test thankfully they were able to detect when US rice was found to be contaminated with Bayer's genetically engineered pharamaceutical experimental test crop!).

Who Decides What's "Genetic Pollution"?

Look at the EPA: they allow pollution up to certain levels based on politics.

Look at the FDA: they recommend corn and wheat as the foundation of diet, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

Look at Congress: they subsidize corn syrup and penalize sugar cane.

Are you really sure that these are the people you want to be in charge?

Consumers can form organizations and file lawsuits for any injury, fraud, or false claims the seller makes, a whole lot more effectively than the government can.

The government is the one that prohibits farmers from saying their food is "organic" when it is, and allows inorganic ingredients in foods they approve of and label as "organic."

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/

Yeah

Let's get the government involved so we can ban the stuff we don't like. /sarc

have statists taken over the DailyPaul?

Demanding big government ban the things they don't like?

Make whatever collectivist arguments you want for government intervention. Responsibility lies with the individual, not Leviathan.

good point

what we really need is ability for farmers or ANY property owner/consumer to sue for damages to their land/crops... including any contamination.

It always goes back to * property rights *

edit: Nothing wrong with STATE govts banning things, depending on what the residents of that state vote. Just as it's not unreasonable to ban toxic chemicals, poisons etc from being put into our groundwater or foods we eat. (oh wait, much of that IS allowed right now...)

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Monsanto is big government's baby

They would ban any of you from eating anything but their food in a heartbeat. They have something no corporation should ever have, tons and tons of political power.

Do future generations have a right

to an unspoiled planet?

Do future generations have a right to look at birds or breathe clean air or drink clean water?

Do future generations have a right to the many plants and animals that god provided us with or is it our right to deprive them of anything we want to take from their future?

Do they have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in any way BUT what we decide to take from them? Or does conservative respect for life indeed end at birth?

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

Well now the air and water are poisoned

and species die off every day. Now you wish to tinker with the plants and the animals.

OK. Why should anyone trust your "free market" or yourselves?

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

In the free market you can defend yourself

If someone uses force against you by poisoning your air and water I contend that in a free market you have a right to defend yourself. By extension you have the right to form a voluntary union of individuals to defend each other, which is what government should be. Governments in this ideal world would have compete with each other in the free market of ideas; of course this is not some utopian ideal there will still be conflict because people have differing opinions about what constitutes a use of unlawful aggressive force.

Given as we have been deprived of defense

and recourse, what use is there discussing market freedoms of usurpers?

Do only corporations retain this freedom?

Those who say "don't want it, don't buy it and eat it" remain wilfully ignorant of people losing houses and farms because montanto seed fell off the truck and polluted their non-GMO farms.

And those of you proudly trumpeting their tiny little herloom patched with pride while simultaneously defending Monstanto, well tell us how well your organics work in a few years without bees, earthworms, ladybugs and scores of other organisms that make growth on this planet possible.

Now go ahead and tell me "but bees don't eat corn".

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

Well obviously we need to stand up for our rights

Isn't that the whole point? I was indicated that it is totally lawful and free market to criminally punish those who poison the food supply with genetically engineered crops. The free market includes the law you cannot have a free market without the rule of law. The problem is we need to enforce the law, especially the constitution when lower forms of law contradict it.

If you were on a raft in the middle of an ocean

with a few people and one of them had a knife poised to puncture the raft, perhaps the free market approach would be to borrow somebody's cell phone and call whatever police had jurisdiction.

If I was on that raft I would use every level of intervention, not caring about depriving the free market of yet another excuse to capitalize on sheer stupidity.

I would in fact use any and all means at my disposal. I would begin to make a point and assert my rights, then I would threaten recourse and then I would attempt to render you unconscious and failing that I would try to render you lifeless.

Your point seems to suggest there is another private market alternative I have not considered unless it's the FACT that THIS MARKET CONSIDERS YOU EXPENDABLE.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

Corny

Just speaking of corn, the U.S. produces 72,700,000 acres of corn per year. Let's assume that 75% is planted with BT corn. Let's assume that our government bans BT technology. BT technology averages a 15.875 bushel increase per acre. That adds up to a 865,584,375 bushel loss per year for U.S. corn growers. That's a hell of a lot of food/fuel/export/etc. At current local market price (set by the gov't) it would be a total $5,236,785,468.75 loss of revenue. Just for corn. Not any other ag commodity. Just corn. Wow. When that happens, can the average Joe afford to get a pork chop or gallon of milk at the store? Probably not, but I guess he would still have the right to plant his own garden, raise his own pork, milk his own cow, assuming that each and every person has the capability to do so.

So wouldn't it be easier just to NOT purchase a Monsanto product if you don't like it? I hate Monsanto so I don't purchase their products, I'm free to NOT purchase them as I wish. I don't want Monsanto genetics bastardizing my cherished beautiful garden, so it's pretty easy for me to plant my crops at a slightly different time than my GMO neighboring crops to eliminate any risk of cross-pollination. I've planted my garden for years with wonderful heirloom seed saved year after year and have not had one instance of the thousands of surrounding GMO acres contaminating my tiny little 1/2 acre garden. The GMO seeds did not sprout legs and walk over only to wait until perfect pollination time, contrary to popular belief. And since I don't consume (currently by choice) Monsanto products, I believe that they probably won't kill me. Here I am, still kicking, with a beautiful heirloom garden in the middle of the sea of GMO.

Any rebuttal would be welcome with facts and figures, in fact I would like to be able to calculate the number of people that die each year from GMO products vs. the number that would starve to death without them. I'm just wondering what the impact would be. It's sad, but people need to eat. I am lucky to choose what I feed my family, some people cannot afford the luxury. I also would be more than willing to take off my tin foil hat and feed my family GMO products if the choice came down to that or starve to death. Would you let your family starve to death? Really, you'd only be lying to yourself if you answer "yes".

People should have the right to choose what they put in their bodies, if they want GMO it's their choice. If I want heirloom, it's my choice. No one is forced to purchase these products. If you are concerned about your field getting pollinated by a GMO field, work out a deal with your neighbor to plant at different times to ensure pollination takes place at a different time. It still remains the will of the people to use these products. We don't have to agree with them, but we don't need to strip away rights to satisfy our personal motives, no matter how imperative we believe it is.

Your making some huge assumptions bud

It's not as if farmers in the United States wouldn't produce any corn without genetically engineered crops. We can use traditional plant breeding to develop varieties that yield more or are resistant to pests. The sky won't fall and people won't just start starving or being forced to produce all their own food if genetic engineering is kept in the laboratory under controlled conditions where it belongs (I happen to work with genetically engineered bacteria in a nanopore DNA sequencing lab.)

Organic agriculture produces more food per unit land anyway http://environment.about.com/od/healthenvironment/a/organicf... no need for anyone to starve or poison eachother.

Please don't call me "Bud", I'm a woman.

What is my huge assumption? I used facts derived from the USDA website. My "guess" was 75% GMO Seed. And I used the word "assume" to indicate that it was an assumption. Considering that damn near 100% of the crop planted in my area is GMO (I am in the CORN belt), I figured that was a pretty decent place to start. The crop loss per acre was an average figuring 4 different varieties, with 4 different technologies. I didn't say that the world would stop turning, I simply gave an estimate of crop loss. Are you saying that all farmers should be forced to comply with the gov't approved "organic" label?

What if the gov't were to "ban" "organic"? How would you like that? I wouldn't. Maybe if you would get out of the lab and take a step into reality, you'd see that more government intervention hasn't got us anywhere. That's why I come to the Daily Paul, to advocate freedom and liberty and to connect with the liberty minded. I prefer freedom of choice, including the freedom of YOUR choice to advocate government intervention in a liberty forum. Ok, Bud?

You wanna hurt monsanto?

Then get rid of subsidies to agriculture.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

corn and the "illegals"

NO subsidies or NAFTA!

These two impoverished millions of people in Latin America and are the root cause of their immigration up north where most of us hate them, yet many still prefer to employ them as they are more perfect than employing slaves.

I feel sorry for these people in the South. Their little fields of "heirloom" corn that fed their families were drowned with imports of our subsidized corn at prices they could not compete with.

Someone above was worried about a sudden crash of Montsanto. Well, there was a crash in Guatemala, and it came from the North.

Ron Paul ... forever.

Excellent point

Also stop preventing companies from stating that their dairy products don't contain genetically engineered bovine growth hormone.

A little story about Modified Genes

This is a factual story of what can happen when man tries to play God. I live in a remote place in the Desert where during World War II General Patton trained his troops to go into North Africa against Rommel and the German elete African troops.

Patton took over the whole desert out here to the extent of a thousand square miles and more. What he found when he got here was critters of all kinds, Spiders, Scorpions, Snakes, Ants, Rats, Etc. His cure was to spread DDT across the whole desert southwest in Ca. and Az. to Genocide and eliminate this problem.

Well, it worked just great and everything died including all the harmless species like the ground burrowing owl and the desert tortoise just to name a few of hundreds of wildlife and plant species destroyed. There was but one species that was able to some how survive just by chance.

Some how the DDT had mutated the Rattlesnake that was listed as a "Coontail" or "Diamond Back" rattlesnake. It had some how turned green and became resistant to the DDT. It developed a venom that is very unique compared to any snake in the world. It contains both a Neurotoxin and a Hemotoxin. This is very,very rare.

When bitten, it not only affects your nervous system like most venimous snakes, it also shuts down your lungs. I have lost Horses in less than twenty minutes from a Green bite. This is amazing when you figure what a horse weighs in comparison to a human. They simply smothered to death.

This new species was named the Mojave Green because of it's color. It has also mutated now to a species called the Mojave Red. It continues to mutate and is now being found to have no rattles at all because of new laws preventing offroad travel. It no longer needs to protect it's self from man so it no longer needs to rattle.

Over the years the desert and mother nature is slowly bringing back all of the almost extinct species that were lost. But they are again threatened and becoming extinct again because the man made species, the Mojave Green has taken over and driven them all out once again. It will in the end not only destroy all the desert species but it's very own self existence.

Just one real life example of what happens when man fools with Mother Nature. And this was an pure accident. I have real problems with it being done on purpose.

P.S. just a side note, After he trained them for the desert heat and sand to go into Africa. He sent them into Italy during the wet winter. many were lost just due to exposure. Go figure.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Very Sad.

I'm going to stop commenting on this post now, because it's obvious those who want the government ban aren't going to be changing their minds.

It's just very sad and disheartening to see these kinds of comments here. Everyone always supports freedom and limited government, except for this one area where they KNOW that it's in the worlds and people's best interest to give government power. For all of you, it's regarding food. For others it's pollution, drugs, prostitution, fighting crime, workplace safety, etc. So in the end, when you look at the aggregate, everyone gets their special regulations on their one really important issue passed, and we end up with a government that controls everything. We end p with the system we have in place today.

You're either for a free market, or against it. There's no such thing as a free market here, and a regulated market there. Different people will have different passions, and if you open pandora's box to get your opinion legislated, then you have consented others to decide other things for you too.

Sad day for those who actually believe in limited government, when big government statists are trying to take over the Ron Paul revolution.

Good luck to all of you in your respective trades. I'll go back into running my small business and minding my own business.

Obviously, you have not done

Obviously, you have not done your research on Monsanto. Monsanto is as free market as the Federal Reserve.

I'm not asking you to change *your* mind . . .

Do *you* only come on here to change others' minds? I don't.

I come on here to express my beliefs and even sometimes some of my experience, but I don't expect to change anyone else's mind. I'm sorry you're sad. I have witnessed huge sadness over death due to chemical manipulations. So I do understand sadness.

If you have read any of my posts, you will see that there are many causes for sadness. Some of us have suffered because of manipulation of natural processes, suffered in ways it would be hard to describe on a discussion board. If *you* haven't, I'm glad. But if that ever happens to you, there will be people who will understand.

I don't want to have *my* opinion legislated, by the way. You have entirely too much trust in the "government" to think that is going to happen, whether you believe it is right or wrong. My stating that Monsanto is evil doesn't mean the company will be stopped. No, I've lived too long to believe that will happen, right or wrong.

My personal belief is that enough people will begin to see the damage that has been done and 'rise up' in rebellion. Not sure what form that will take; I don't believe in violence myself. I honestly don't think this government will be changed. There will have to be a huge grassroots change, and Dr. Paul has facilitated that. It won't be in legislating against corporations either; I am not naive enough to believe that, and I'm not sure that is right. I am not sure that there could ever be a time when there would be a 'right' war, even in defense, in this land--

So, you see, some of *us* are more libertarian even than you believe. I'm not asking for legislation against any of these evil corporations, just for a recognition of what they have done, the immense destruction that is, even now, in process.

I don't "live" in theory. I "live" in my garden, watching for bees. Praying they come.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Don't give up, you've not understood

They rig the game, so as not to have to compete in a free market. We're not, as you say, selectively choosing what segments of the free market we support, and far from big government statists. Watch this one. Dan Glickman, sec. of ag., and many insiders, outline some of the general history. Mostly overview, interesting interviews. 10 short segments.. Arpad Pusztai in part 5 and 6 was a proponent, changed his view after conducting experiments, then was fired and targeted ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvGddgHRQyg&feature=relmfu

Take down 21st century Monsanto & Bayer with 19th century law

All this discussion of free markets, corporate crime, and the justness of prosecuting businesses is ended right now: Simply take down 21st century Monsanto & Bayer with 19th century law forbidding illegal dumping of trash; i.e., polluting.

If Monsanto crops are spreading to other farms through natural means, and farmers are being sued by Monsanto for patent infringement, then farmers must join forces and countersue Monsanto for pollution! They are contaminating pristine fields with their GM crap.

Similarly, if Monsanto's or Bayers' insecticide seed is killing off the bees, why aren't they being prosecuted by beekeepers for pollution and contamination?

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

Because

You must prove an injury before you can win a case. Who is personally to blame and how can it be proven? This is exactly what they count on. Is it too late now to prove an injury? Even if you did, would it bring back the Bees? No, we are going to let this happen until it is too late for all of us.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.