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Washington State Convention - May 30-June 2 - Open Thread

The Washington state convention convenes tomorrow and adjourns on Friday. 40 delegates are being elected, 30 by congressional district and 10 at-large. Make sure you attend if you are a delegate or alternate, you may be seated!

"The Washington Republican State Convention (consisting of 1,500 delegates, 1,500 alternates, and the automatic delegates) convenes [WSRP rule 36].

National Convention delegate candidates declare their Presidential preference or uncommitted status at the time they are nominated. These delegates are bound for the first ballot at the National Convention [WSRP rule 37]."


Update #1:

I think I have found the Ustream link: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/washingtonconvention

Update #2:

Romney - 24
Paul - 6

Update #3

A lot of you are disappointed that we did not win many delegates and will not win Washington, even if we win all 10 at-large delegates tomorrow. But remember this: Ron Paul supporters are flooding PCO slots up for election. These positions are rarely contested, but this time around there are many spots that are being contested. We are taking the party over from the ground up. Get in contact with the grassroots so you know who to vote for on the August 7 ballot. This is not over.

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More of the GOP Treatment

I just returned from three days of BS. Here is just a sample of Ron Paul treatment. Mitt Comney Booth was just outside of the convention room on the the 5th floor. Ron Paul booth was on the 3rd floor at the end of the hall completely out of sight.

One person, I will not mention his name, whom I consider to be an American hero, was a Secret Service man for George Bush, 43, for six years. A person that put his life between George Bush and the world, a person that wanted to be a National Delegate in Florida. When he went to the micro phone to explain why he believed in Dr. Paul and not Mitt he was booed off the stage by the Comney people.

They took a man that is full of pride for doing his duty as an American and belittled him to tears. Need I say more. I am embarrassed for him and our country.

Joined the Liberty Movement in Anchorage, Alaska, 1977. Ron Paul supporter since 1983.
In Liberty from the Pacific Northwest.

We got wiped. Sad-sad-sad. We lost because...

...too many of our delegates didn't show.

And too many dirty anti-Paul tricks were played.

I was a delegate from the 9th Congressional District and attended both days from start to finish.

The Romney camp was well-organized and obviously we had scared the crap out of them to the point where they were serious about keeping Paul delegates out.

Call me a poor loser, but I will not be voting for Romney in November.

I'll be writing in Ron Paul all the way to the bitter end.

I did not spend the last 5 years of my time, energy and money for the Ron Paul Campaign just to vote for the establishment republican hack nomineee.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Thank you for not giving in

Thank you for not giving in to apathy.


Jack Hamilton, the mastermind of the fraud in Kitsap County, won a national delegate slot. Must be his pat on the head for taking CD 6 away from Paul.

I was an alternate delegate in CD3

I was moved up to a delegate for CD3. CD3 and CD7 did very well. But overall I am somewhat disappointed with the outcome of the convention. There were a lot of Romney delegates that were rude and arrogant. And it seemed to me that one of the reasons they outnumbered us was because of the cheating that took place earlier in various counties. i.e. Kitsap County and King County and probably others. They spoke falsely of "unity" while alienating and disrespecting us.
Nevertheless, I am very proud of our patriotic efforts here in Washington. I really do have high hopes that they can be educated before the National Convention, but this does not seem very likely.

Educate them


Truth and liberty are mutually inseparable.


that's one way. Get to getten'...Seriously though...we've got to keep trying to reach these zombies anyway we can; at some point they need to wake up. Maybe it is some kind of fear that keeps their mind closed or the strong influence of their addiction to the lies and propaganda spewed by the msm. Something keeps a lot of them from wanting to search for the truth. That lack of thirst or lack of desire to search for the truth and answers is what hurts them. Our two party political system takes advantage of this.

You're right

This is the first time I've heard anything about losses in the 45th LD on the Daily Paul. More rounded reporting of losses as well as wins would prevent "irrational exuberance" and inflated expectations.

Yes, it's like an artificially low interest rate

You invest more than you should...in this case expectations instead of capital, but sometimes the latter based on the former!

I don't know where this whole"Ron Paul will take Washington"

thing got started.At our county convention,the 45th,we were
way outnumbered and got 0 delegates and 0 alternates.Just because
2 or 3 county conventions went well does not mean that we dominate
the entire state.Our delegates worked really hard and are a great
group of patriots.The conventions that won got lots of attention,
but the ones that lost were not mentioned so I guess everyone thought
Washington was in the bag.

For the record, I never counted us as in the bag

Spokane may have won big in 08 but we got slaughtered this time. 36 of 114 were RP folks (and not all could make it to Tacoma not that it seemed to matter) and it was 3-1 against us in CD 5 :(

What are you fightin' for?
Caught in the middle?
Freedom is only for those with the guts to defend it!

wolfangel - thank you!

Thank you for your work, for your exposure to hostile terrains, you are brave and this is a good report from Washington state. (Used to live there - Seattle)

Ron Paul ... forever.

Thanks Key L

for your kind words.

I don't know what the root

I don't know what the root cause is, and I doubt it's just one single thing, but it seems that unless the police show up we don't have a majority. That's sad and needs to stop.

This is a game of money vs. willpower and money is showing to be pretty damn powerful.

We need to contact everyone of the delegates we know and do what we can to get them to their respective convention. Just ask them what can we do to help you attend the convention. Simple as that. Some people may not have rides, lets get together a carpool. Some may think that Dr Paul has dropped out, show them he hasn't. Some may think Romney clinched the nomination, show them why they're wrong. Some may think he doesn't have a chance, tell them all the things that can be voted for besides delegates. There's platform reform (wouldn't it be nice to see support of the Patriot act removed from the republican platform?) Chairmen, committeemen, etc., if they don't think Paul has a chance this time around then what about finding out who the other liberty candidates are and put them in office to make things easier for the next go. Think about all the kids who weren't able to vote because they didn't turn 18 in time. Put the liberty candidates in positions of power for the kids so they can take the reigns later on.

Grassroots leaders, each and everyone of you has the responsibility to contact every delegate you can think of, not to confirm if they're going, but to ask what you can do to help them get to their convention. Whatever their reasons are for not wanting to go, those reasons aren't silly or unimportant to them so we can't treat them like they are. Offer to help them overcome their issues. You have to, we have to. There's no one else that will.
I know for at least Illinois and Indiana, they're still filling vacancies for delegate and alternates wayyyyy past what was the deadline. If you think you can get motivated enough to become one for your convention, I'm willing to help. Leave a comment or contact me through my profile. I don't want your name, address, phone number, money or stuff like that. At the most, I'll ask you for what county you live in.

Also know that it is POSSIBLE to become a delegate AT your convention if you go as just a GUEST.

If you can get motivated enough to actually get off your ass and do more than complain then I'm willing to try and help you.

Please DO NOT

Please Do NOT jump to conclusions. Many here are.
In 2008, I was given wrong directions to the county convention, and was 1 hr late.
I was also given the wrong date and found the right date by accident.
When I arrived late, I had found all the Paul people were lured into a room by themselves, all the while- the actual voting was going on out in the auditorium, and the Paulites were none the wiser. About 40 of them.
I interrupted the fraudulent "how to become a delegate strategy meeting"(THATS WHAT THE ESTABLISHMENT CALLED THE MEETING!)lol that consisted of ONLY Paul people I swung open the door and announced to them they were missing the voting that was currently taking place in the auditorium, and they all rose and walked out of the room and to the gym for voting..This was in DR PAULS DISTRICT.
The ran 2 county conventions together, breaking the rules because they wanted to water down our vote.
The establishment cheats.
They are habitual liars
and any one of them, MALE OR FEMALE- would steal the blanket off their cold mothers back, and then sell it to some far off dictator for a few shillings.
They are the most despicable form of American and they know no bounds.
The evildoers in the party are desperate and their time is nill and they see ALL OF YOU COMING. They fear you more then you know or can realize. The old hacks cant even look the Paul kids in the eyes.
They look down and become flushed when they say to them their vote doesnt matter.
They are embarrassed for what they have become and ashamed of themselves
Their time is up, they are ashamed of themselves- and THEY SHOULD be.
Their evil will be their undoing, and the evil which is entrenched in both parties realize this too.

Never jump to conclusions over an outcome and ALWAYS give YOUR OWN the benefit of the doubt or face looking very stupid to alot of people when you realize the tricks and lies these establishment hacks play on the patriots they seek to disenfranchise.
What is wrong with some of you?
If your attitude has changed, GET OUT.
Someone else will pick up your slack.
There will always be someone else ready to defend liberty in your place.


the official campaign

Was the official campaign involved in assisting in any way? I mean they did say this where the efforts were going and had a moneybomb to boot. I haven't heard a peep since asking for money. I just hope the last million wasn't for Benton's salary.

He'll be a million dollar man

He'll be a million dollar man soon just from this campaign.

Has anyone come up with a

Has anyone come up with a very reasonable explanation of why Wead and Benton conceded the nomination? If it was a deal to get the Romneyites to be nicer, it certainly hasn't worked! If you have any theory that makes sense, please share it.

You have a link to this famous event?


Free includes debt-free!

Jesse Benton has sold out or has been physically threatened

Jesse Benton has run an extremely poor campaign since mid January.
He has had a very negative effect on Paul's chances and yet he continues to receive his salary.

Doug Wead has given up the fight and is now looking after his own interests.

Romney has always been the only danger to the nomination.
It was always Romney that had the Fox News monopoly, the cash and the GOP for election rigging.

Staying under the radar by not attacking Romney directly, so he did not attack Paul, was fine for a little while.
But saying Romney is "nice" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not categorically denying deals with Romney !!!!!!!
Doing deals with Romney against Santorum !!!!!!!!!!!

And Ron Paul saying Romney is a nice man personally !!!!!
Romney is in league with the elites of the military industrial complex.
Romney would lose the US Dollar's Reserve Status.
Romney will cause economic collapse in the US.
He put a dog on the roof of his car and when the dog sh@t all over the car, he just hosed him down and put him back on the roof.
Romney is a sociopath.
The last thing Romney is - is nice.

But running flip flop ads featuring all 3 was utterly point less.
Running an ad showing what voters could get from Paul would have been a different story.
Zero income tax.
Protecting social security another.

Nothing was done to encourage young people to vote on the day in the early elections/caucuses after New Hampshire.
The turnout was often 1%.

Nothing was done to promote zero tax on tips.
Nothing was done to get the people who receive tips to get out and vote.

Quite a few things that Ron Paul could have done better too.

Unless a major fraud is pinned on Romney before Tampa .....

Obama will use the dirt on Romney after Tampa not before.
He has no reason to show his hand.
He knows he can easilt beat Romney.
Beating Ron Paul would be a different story.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

You're the expert, why didn't you lead your State to victory?

Or are you saying you tried and now your blaming someone else for the failure.

And how many of the youth did your GOTV efforts send to the polls. If you had signed up with the Campaign you would have gotten a list of voters in your precinct to call. How is that Benton's fault?

Free includes debt-free!

I certainly would like to know as well.....

I have never rushed to judgement in regards to Benton, but I have had it. The grassroots is trying to keep momentum and Benton is working against us. The timing after the weekend where the Ron Paul people persisted in NV and Maine brought down on that Monday with Benton and before money bomb. Timing is horrible! Now Wead is promoting his book?

Sorry for rant, I'm usually pretty positive but maybe I'm just crankier after WA convention.

"Fairy tales are more than true; not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten."
— G.K. Chesterton

What are you talking about?

Maybe you better re-read the "evil" Campaign release? I can't find what everyone is referring to.

If half the effort that has gone into ad hominim attacks just here on the DP, had been spend campaigning, we would have done a lot better.

Instead the MSM distracted us, and turned us into monsters that eat their own.

Free includes debt-free!

This is the first time...

I have EVER criticized the campaign at the DP. I am always the one giving the benefit of the doubt, but I have reached the end of my tether with Benton.

"Fairy tales are more than true; not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten."
— G.K. Chesterton

Beware of scapegoats, they are never what the're made out to be.

Do you have a link to the offending messages? Not the MSM interpretation, please.

Free includes debt-free!

Yes, read the DP

Do you think I would be a Ron Paul supporter if I watched the MSM, I killed the idiot box last summer. Ron Paul people don't rely on the MSM for anything.

"Fairy tales are more than true; not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten."
— G.K. Chesterton

Been here as long as you, everyone claims an evil deed,

But no one has shown me the where it came from the Campaign. What I see is a lot of people reading between the lines, but never reading what was written.

Did I miss it.

Free includes debt-free!

Although I agree with you both

There is something to be said for questioning everything. Blind faith has proven to be unreliable because of the shared information and or interpretation or lack there of. I personally am tossed as to what to believe because of the lack of true factual information from both directions. I honestly will say I cannot come up with an opinion or judgement either way in this lack of communication from the campaign.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

Excellent Question!!! Was the "Official" Campaign in Washington

I really believe the May 14th Infamous Press Release really hurt the Ron Paul Nation very badly!!!

As far as forming Unity Delegate Alliances with Santorum or Gingrich Delegates why would they even consider joining a Campaign that officially stopped actively campaigning in primaries.

Like Mike Nystrom said on the dark day the Campaign quit. Whether you agree or not many on our side have come to that conclusion.

Just look at how many delegates for Ron failed to show today in Washington and Missouri.

You could say the soft Ron Paul support has melted away......as a result of that damned Press Release.

Now, back to my original question, did anyone at the Convention see or hear from an "Official" paid Campaign Staff Worker?

Yea, I am a little miffed

It would really make me mad if they weren't involved. I would say that if they weren't, we were duped into paying off salaries. I don't want to believe Ron Paul would do that. I would have preferred to give more money to the grassroots. If they were ending the campaign for real as it seems they are; Benton, etc. should have been given their walking papers.