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Jeremy Scahill Says Obama Strikes In Yemen Constitute 'Murder' on MSNBC

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Look at the number of comments on the Huffington Post.

There is antiwar sentiment and a realisation that drone and cruise missile strikes just increase the number of Islamic Extremists, by killing large numbers of innocent civilians.

It is a question of how to harness it.




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TYT Responds

Cenk from the TYT did a good piece on this. Definitely on ours and Scahill's side on this issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Trh8iwNt8&feature=g-all-u

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I sometimes like TYT and sometimes don't...

That video was awesome though... And might be nice to have in the OP as well, because it goes into a lot more detail.

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Who are they going

to put on TV, as more and more of the "regulars" begin to realize what a catastrophe our system has turned into. He is right of course, it is murder. Bush did the same, Romney would do the same (as if there was any chance of him being elected). God Bless America.....

Here is my response

I was reading through the comments on the Huffington Post article and I came across quite a few disturbing comments. Here is a comment from one particular user:

"For years these villages have supported terrorism, have given the terrorists a place to hide after an attack on other countries, they don't seem to care about the innocents who are killed because of the terrorists. These villages let the terrorists live amongst them, they know that when we come looking for the terrorists their own lives and that of their children will be in danger, yet they allow and provide refuge to people who have no compunction or aversion to killing women and children (our women and children). Yes it is heartbreaking when an innocent dies, but I am more concerned with the deaths of Americans at the hands of terrorists than I am about the deaths of innocent women and children who's leaders enable terrorists to launch attacks that take the lives of our women and children, then hide them after the fact. Do these villagers really think that if they let the terrorists hide amongst them it will stop us from carrying out a drone attack to rid the world of this insidious threat?

Just thought I'd throw that out there. It seems to me it's a no win situation and I am more concerned about my fellow Americans than I am about people who design the circumstances that allow their own people to be killed."

To which I responded:
'Wow, I am utterly shocked by the ignorance and double standards presented in this comment. Present to me any evidence that supports your claim that they "supported terrorism"? What do you actually believe constitutes terrorism? Is it not terrorism when a radical group send their extremist followers into another country to murder upwards of 600,000 of their people? Is it not terrorism when that same radical group conspires with other radical groups to take out anyone of influence that disagrees with them? Is it not terrorism when that same group uses the same tactics on the people of their own country as they do on their "supposed" enemies? How many countries must be beholden to the death inducing destruction of the US government before you finally wake up? Iran, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Sudan, Uganda, Rwanda, Bahrain. Why can't people think 'critically' anymore? Why has reason and logic been abandoned for naivety and gullibility? '

“Governments never learn. Only people learn.”
― Milton Friedman

please go back into the site and inform the person...

That 9eleven was domestic murder committed by the US/Israel/Saudi who hitched a ride on the original plot, which on its own accord would not have brought down the towers, to make ensure the dramatic end. Tower7 was the first dead give away that something was not what it seems. Throughout history all gov't has propagated crimes against its own people to steer them to their "greater" cause. As hard as it was for me to believe what I was seeing at that moment, harder still was how tower7's fell in the exact same way as the other two when it was not hit by any planes or missiles and only sustained marginal debris damages to the outermost shell, nothing penetrated nor came close to building7's core structures, yet it came down in identical fashion free falling uninhibited by any structure below, not coming into contact with any structural restraints from beneath! As I watch that day in shock and disbelief, tower7 removed all shock and left only disbelief. When the shock wore off, thinking can begin if you allow it.

Tower7 was the dead give away and much research ensued. The volume of innocent deaths was caused, aided, and perpetrated by the US/Israel/Saudi forces--I have absolutely no doubt. Tower7 was the first trigger then Silverstein's actions bought insurance against plane/terrorist attacks for both towers--(who wakes up a few weeks before an "unknown" attack and decides with great precision of foresight to buy insurance against plane/terrorist againsts/for his property?)--a few weeks before the mass murders. Even the families of nineleven victims doubt the Commission Report and their cries for redress have been silent, as with all of the people's concerns.
Nothing adds up in math nor science to their explanation of what happened. [I honestly believe this embolden the gov't to do to "us stupid people" what it pleases because we are, to them, nothing but cattles to be herded, and if we let the few hand full of people do this to hundred of millions of us, then we are cattles.] You cannot fake physics--thank goodness nature don't lie. The answers in math and science point to LIES. It's important to spread the word. Leave the spark whether anyone want to see it or not--just leave it, eventually it will be picked up on. Truth is consistent and it will lead to the same conclusion that those three towers imploded and fell the exact same way due to internal explosives not fire and weight of upper floors compression! The conundrum: Why is it more acceptable to believe US gov't could send hundred of thousands of US men and women to kill and be killed for unjust wars but not believe gov't could sacrifice a few thousand of its own people at home for *their* greater cause? If they could do it there, they could do it anywhere--the point is they would and have done it! Do your own research, record it, and document it before they take all sparks of truth down. It is important to go back to that site and leave sparks for that poster. We need to correct and stir minds to think outside the box. Best wishes and seek truth always.

I say: if you can't make it better, don't make it worst!

You are responding to "PAID" propagandist.

My Girl and I have been looking on work at home/internet sites such as guru and others, and she wanted me to do "Political" comments. She showed it to me, sure enough, you get paid for "COMMENTS" toward a certain direction to help sway public opinion. AKA PROPAGANDIST.

I have noticed this kind of public policy swaying A LOT in certain, especially during the primaries, or Gov't murdering/torture/patriotism/ to help gently sway public opinion.

Freedom may be worth searching for.

I have given up on my fellow Americans, (not DPers) as I will not shed one more calorie trying to awaken anyone else who is not a critical thinker and does not have the inherent feeling that something is wrong.

yeah, i agree

I was pretty disgruntles when I read that comment also. Its so ridiculous to see any comments at all that support Obama's murderous ways. There are actually almost as many comments of people excusing Obama as there are condemning. Of course that could just be because its Huff Po. Huff Po is notorious for screening comments and making sure they get more of the responses they like posted. What's even more of a joke is that its these same people sucking Obama's nuts that were condemning Bush for murdering. The sheep live on both sides of the aisle.

The original poster who wrote

The original poster who wrote that has absolutely NO IDEA what is happening in "those villages". He does not know who supports who, what the political makeup of that area is, nor the MULTIPLE different groups that oppose the central unitary regime in that country.

he's just a dumb news watcher sitting on his PC, making extremely ignorant assumptions of the people in that country. The more uninformed our citizens are, the easier it is for our leaders to demonize entire populations and freely murder whoever they choose.

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Pakistan : Drone strikes are violations of National Sovereignty

ISLAMABAD, June 4 (Reuters) - Pakistan on Monday strongly condemned a jump in U.S. drone strikes on its territory, using language that could increase tension between strategic allies already in dispute over military supply routes for NATO that Pakistan has closed.

Three drone strikes in as many days on suspected militants have killed 27 people, Pakistani intelligence officials say.

The foreign ministry called the attacks "illegal" and said they violated the South Asian country's sovereignty.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/04/pakistan-drone-stri...

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

all they have to do is...

declare war on the US for invasion and point out that no country is safe from the US when they claim anyone is a terrorist. Not China, Russia, South American countries--no country. Would the US start bombing England or France when they find the terrorist hinden there? All terrorist should leave their motherland and migrate to western cities for their own safety now. It is fuking ridiculous! We are the terrorist now! Would the US send drones into our cities to take out the criminals and terrorists here? No--not yet. No matter what, Obama cannot stay in office. No matter what! Before today, I thought I'll sit out if Dr. Paul doesn't make it as nominee (I'm just being prepared, not negative) but now, I must vote for whomever the opposition is to Obama, period. This puppet idiot Obama is like a slow fire cooking this country to a slow death, not enough to stir all the idiotic minds to act, but enough to push all the molecules around. We need to either reach the boiling point (Romney would do it) or turn off the fire (Ron Paul saving this country) but we must not allow the pot to continue simmering under Obama! A very bad itch you cannot scratch for years is worst than a quick end.

I think Obama is suffering from some kind of mental illness. He couldn't change anything in Washington so his brain cells are attacking itself. None of the things he's doing make sense. The only people that will and are supporting him are those focused on self preservation of their own kind.

I say: if you can't make it better, don't make it worst!

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It's called "One World Govt Disease"

MUCH worse than MAD COW...

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All will listen!
the world will be saved!!! WoW that was a close one!

if jeremy scahill isn't on a hit list yet

he is now. he better watch his back.

Mass Bombing A Mormon Position

If you find yourself arguing with a Mormon over the Morality of Using mass Bombing and the killing of innocent women and children as a necessary evil you may find the following article helpful.

http://scriptures.byu.edu/gettalk.php?ID=262

Given by a Mormon Apostle, Under Secretary of State,and United States Ambassador to Mexico, J Ruben Clark, in the General Conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

It supports the position taken by Jeremy Scahill on the Yemen Strikes.

---Want to discuss politics with Mormons? Please read:

"Latter Day Liberty"-Connor Boyack(forward by Ron Paul

Doctrine and Covenants sections 134 & 89

Watch Secretary of Agg Ezra Taft Benson's discourse on "The Proper Role of Government"

Mitt Romney is a . . .

mutated Mormon. He could care less what J. Reuben Clark or any other religious leader said/says--whether Mormon or not.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Better Mormon than Mitt

"mutated Mormon. He could care less what J. Reuben Clark or any other religious leader said/says--whether Mormon or not."

AMEN!!!

Ron Paul is a great Christian. Mitt Romney is a Corrupt War Monger. When it comes to shared political principals Ron Paul is a better Mormon than the actual Mormon.

---Want to discuss politics with Mormons? Please read:

"Latter Day Liberty"-Connor Boyack(forward by Ron Paul

Doctrine and Covenants sections 134 & 89

Watch Secretary of Agg Ezra Taft Benson's discourse on "The Proper Role of Government"

you've got that right!

:)

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Obomni would immediately know the answer

While at the funeral of her own mother, she met a guy whom she did not know. She thought this guy was amazing, so much the dream guy that she was searching for that she fell in love with him immediately.

However, she never asked for his name or number and afterward could not find anyone who knew who he was.

A few days later the girl killed her own sister.

Question: Why did she kill her sister?

Answer: She reasoned that if the guy appeared at her mother's funeral, then he might appear another family funeral.

If you answered this correctly, you think like a psychopath.

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Not true actually...

A psychopath can't feel love like that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

She might kill the sister if she thought the guy could be beneficial to her in some other way, like financially, but certainly not for love.

To disregard one love for another selfish love like that and so strongly, might make her "borderline personality disorder" or something similar.

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'tis a good point !

thanks

OK

But does that make me a psychopath - or just someone who thinks like one? Frankly - I thought it was obvious.
Oh well - time to get therapy I guess. LOL!!

I was waiting for when Jeremy Scahill will pop up

You wil LOOVE his book [Blackwater: The Rise of the World's Most Powerful Mercenary Army]

It really grabs the truth on Americas War Machine, and the Flaws in our Foreign Policy

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?
http://youtu.be/yNF09pUPypw

The US gov't is NAZI-LIKE, so

The US gov't is NAZI-LIKE, so what else is new?!?!?!

Jury Nullification is a power of the last resort against tyranny.

Stop killing human beings for profit, please.

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Thank you.

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Drones May Soon Be Used To Target U.S. Citizens In U.S.

If a drone is flying at night, for example, you will never know if one of their bombs are targeted for you. They can be dropped down your chimney, killing you and your entire family.

I hope to God I am wrong about this, but I have lived a long time and seen alot of death and distruction. The NWO will not go quietly. They will use this drones to kill us soon.

The oligarchs have already been overheard talking about Ron Paul and how much they would like to see him and us blow up on a plane over the ocean..

These people are pure evil and there are no limits in what they are capable of..

The blue bloods of europe have ruled over the U.S. for a long time now and they are not about to just hand it back to us..

Prepare yourselves for a battle of God Almighty..

Even conspiracy theorist

Even conspiracy theorist royale Adam Curry says this is a long way off from reality and he is a pilot, so he's well aware of its status. And BTW, Curry is a huge Ron supporter.

Oh, he's a pilot, so he must know.

Drones are ALREADY being used to kill people illegally.

But the point is not how far in the future this will happen in large numbers, but that the plans and intentions are known NOW. What will we do to stop it?

Elect people like Ron Paul, of course. And do what the brave true patriots did in LA this weekend. What an amazing precedent, of the freedom fighters down there turning their chairs around and ignoring the criminal GOP chair, and then conducting business, according to the rules.

That made me proud to be an American. THAT is what America is all about.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford