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it saddens me to see udonews post being banned.

Recently a young man posted an article questioning some of Ron Paul's ideas and sadly it was banned because it was running into disagreeing with some of his points of view.

I am deeply saddened that instead of the freedom of discussion and openness to a different way of thinking the article was simply banned from this site. And sadly I'm starting to see more and more of this movement becoming less and less tolerant of anyone's differing point of view besides Dr. Paul's.

More and more times I'm seeing blue Republicans and those who agree with Occupy being pushed away from this movement. It seems to me as though there are more people on this post who are becoming more and more like the establishment Republicans that they detest. There is a militancy of the groupthink with a cult of personality attached to it.

There was a time when this group was open to forming an alliance with those that they disagree with but now I feel this movement is less agreeable with anyone who disagrees with them and is only tolerant to one way of thinking.I'm sorry if this post offends some of you but I think this has to be said.



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wolfe's picture

WARNING!

udonews may attempt to send you an e-mail (through the contact form here) with a question like "how do I delete my account".

He sent me one.

DO NOT RESPOND.

I do not know who he is, but he doesn't actually get your e-mail address unless you respond. Better safe than sorry, DO NOT RESPOND.

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deacon's picture

some do,some don't

take the post that was started by the user
and subsequent posts down below
and then it doesn't bother me anymore
it is one thing to get information out
it is quite another to twist what has been said
for your own purposes
RP wants to starve people
rp is a racist,blaa,blaa,blaa
all talking points from the media
and yet goes onto talk about others talking points
even when others tried to inform the poster
with facts,it fell on deaf ears,as was intended
from the start
the poster is not here to inform,but to incite
there is a big difference between learning and
wanting to,and coming around to irritate and post out
and out lies
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

I am not for sure here but...

It may be the same poster that has been raising havock as a troll over at the Doug Wead blog for quite some time now? Funny how the racism thing came in, I had absolutely no idea what his ethnic backgound was at all. Still don't, Does anyone else?

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

I thought Talking points was the game here

I thought Talking points was the game here, if you dont like it stop playing the game. I was trying to have a debate, got banned and then when I bring it up here most people just vote it down without arguing

deacon's picture

what?

you were the one claiming not to engage in talking points
you are the one not wanting a debate,AND you are the one
arguing with the ones who wanted and tried to help you
get a grip
people vote it down without arguing???
an argument is 2 or more sides that cannot agree
and usually do not want to,as they see it,their voice,
opinions and beliefs are way more important than facts or truth
see i can play this game too,but i choose no to
it is counter productive
and before you fain ignorance of that,i ask you this
has any of your arguments or any of the others done any good?
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

Good summary. No need to add more.

Time to give important threads attention. Plonk.

Free includes debt-free!

Try "The Daily Marxist"

where the both of you belong.

Yes, but...

Honest questions and debate, absolutely, but I do not believe that, that is udonews's intention here. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

But, rather then ban his posts, we should have the choice to put energy to refute and argue in the hope of educating others, or not.

Yesterday I responded to udonews with an intelligent, crafted response (time=effort=caring) to have udonews blast back, almost immeditely, with short two sentence, off topic, innane response (notime=noeffort=nocaring)this shows me what I am dealing with and so I choose now to ignore udonews's posts entirely, and not react to them, for I have decided that it is a waste of my time and misdirects my energy that I could put to better use elsewhere.

I choose to sow my seeds in fertile ground.

If my need to be RIGHT is greater than my desire for TRUTH, then I will not recognize it when it arrives ~ Libertybelle

Reading udonews's statements

is much like viewing some one interviewing Mike Tyson. Entertaining but no substance. Both feign attempts at the illusion of some type of intelligence and in the process visibly and painfully demonstrate their own ignorance.

There are no politicians or bankers in foxholes.

wolfe's picture

You are right...

I initially defended the post, because debate is healthy. But it is clear that I was wrong, and he should be banned. See this comment:

http://www.dailypaul.com/237650#comment-2519207

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Agreed

I was OK with his last thread as well but now this guy needs to go. He is just attacking, not discussing.

With liberty and justice for all...who can afford it.

Not only

does udonews want the government to take care of everyone"RP-cradle to grave" he is not willing to listen or educate himself. This thread should be deleted!

It saddens me that I have to work so not enough time will be

on enjoying this thread.

I could really use the laugh. Well, back to reality it is. :)

Fuck Obama and Fuck Romney.. May they both be roasted slowly over open fires.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

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rp4pres

Lay off on the excessive profanity around site please.

Someone else just got banned for it.

Thanks

Ron Paul loves Romney unfortunately

Ron Paul loves Romney unfortunately, Yes Ron Paul fooled as all working for Romney as his right wing arm to get Rand Paul the VP ticket. To hell with Ron Paul he is a Mitt Romney lover

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Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

Sorry, not working, little douche.

We're still here and we're going to remain till we pull the ticks like yourself from the ass of America.

Patriot Cell #345,168
I don't respond to emails or pm's.
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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

Ron Paul is the one who will stop you guys not me

Ron Paul is the one who will stop you guys not me. You little penis.

I thought you already said,

I thought you already said, "Thank you and goodbye," why are you still here?

He wasn't happy

Getting his own posts pulled, Now he is going to run around and get others posts pulled.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

you lier!

If you read my comments here you will see that I accept that, but I dont like liers like you. You know what you are the communist here who cant stand other peoples opinions. I am sorry for you, but I am glad that I found out that this movement is stupid and full of fascists.

You fit right in witht the rest of the fascists here.

You want government to collude with big banks to to provide food stamps.

Government borrows two dollars and the lender gets the interest.

JP Morgan gets a Dollar for administering the program.

The "poor" person gets a Dollar to spend at corporate stores selling corporate products.

That is fascism, but its OK with you because it's for a good cause.

Why don't you just give a poor person a Dollar, it would be cheaper.

Free includes debt-free!

Milton Friedman supported pinochet

Milton Friedman supported Pinochet I did not

WTF?

WTF, does that negative income tax promoting, withholding tax creating, socialist in denial, Milton Friedman have to do with anything?

Check out the Laissez-Faire Journal at LFJournal.com


"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

again, you're simply regurgitating ThinkProgess talking points

otherwise, you'd already know that NOBODY here likes Pro-FED Milton Friedman, other than KOCHtopus apologist CATO/Reason faketarians.

Shocking, I know, Friedman is NOT an Austrian, nor is he even true a free market economist.

THE ONLY people who delude Milton Friedman/University of Chicago School of Economics as "free market economics" are delusional neoliberal and RINO neoCON corporatist fascists. That INCLUDES MSDNC, NeoCon John Podesta founded Center for (UN)-American Progress/ThinkProgress, Wonkette, RawStory, CrooksAndLiars, TNR, HuffPost, HotAir, NationalReview, HumanEvents, WeeklySTC et al. Oh lookie, that's basically ALL statist a-holes popular with most braindead sheeple.

The more you talk, the more you reveal how little you 'know' about Dr. Paul and R3VOLution's philosophy, ideology, economics, and political platforms.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

I LOVE YOU TO MAN

I LOVE YOU TO MAN

libertarians loves Milton Friedman, but I guess Hayek is something else right. No they are the same. I am done with this crap now

Buh bye.

But, just one more thing.

"I LOVE YOU TO MAN

libertarians loves Milton Friedman, but I guess Hayek is something else right. No they are the same. I am done with this crap now"

should be

"I love you, TOO, man.

LibertarianS lovE Milton Friedman (some, but not all), but I guess Hayek is something else right (you'd like him, if you actually read him, as he was formerly a socialist, before having an epiphany)? No, they are the same (which tells me you don't know the difference or the fact that Austrians respect Mises far more than Hayek. And, you obviously wouldn't mind, or know the difference if I referred to Howard Zinn as Noam Chompsky). I am done with this crap now."

Now, you're 'done' "with this crap."

From half-assed feigned impassioned exposition, to emotive responses, to a long series of childish back and forth name calling, only to end with a Valleygirl-like OMG like "whatev's" sighed acquiescence; quite the morning you're having.

Seriously I truly, sincerely hope, for your own sake, just so that you do not get lied to by another political operatives in the future, please, please, please, if you get nothing else out of this, at least strongly considering reading two very short econ and 'what-should-the-role-of-govt-be' primers: Henry Hazlitt's Economics in One Lesson, and Frederic Bastiat's The Law.

They're both free online.

Reading BOTH will do you wonders in learning to distinguish, when a political hustler tries to sell you a Toyota inline-4 as a Lamborghini V12.

Why would you want someone to be able to lie to you, if you can help it, when the remedy is starting off on a track by reading two very short primers??

Good luck.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

udo, it's spelled "liAr"

get your sh*t straight, especially if you're gonna tell someone off, 'intelligently.'

"...but I am glad that I found out that this movement is stupid and full of fascists."

Newsflash, ANYONE who wants to use the monopoly of force of govt AT GUNPOINT to give more powers to the corporatist fascists to 'pay' for your beloved pet govt programs, is by definition, the REAL FASCIST.

Get your definitions right. Then again, I don't expect any less from you, considering you can't even spell "LIAR!" properly.

You know, it kinda loses the berating 'umph' if you attempt P0Wnage with poor spelling.

Oh, and in case you were wondering, you're simply becoming a daily bemusement fulfillment quota, nothing more, nothing less; you haven't challenged or changed anyone's mind here.

So, for your Marx's sakes, go away with dignity while you can, my dear non-friend. It's been fun.

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

english is not my first languish racist

english is not my first languish you poor Ron Paul racist supporter. Yes I found the newsletters now, Ron Paul is a racist and just like you he hates people who don't speak english. Ron Paul is the new Hitler. I am glad I found that out, thats why you guys want to kill poor people

Guess that's why you simply want to kill ALL people! LOL

oooh you 'discovered' it, like it's some new continent. Yeah, you and everyone else at MSDNC worshiping cult.

Seriously, now you're simply outing yourself as a putrid mental midget that you are.

Now, run along and tell Michelle oBUSHma, Sasha & Malia, that YOU have something in common with them: you're all okay with RAPING< KIDNAPPING, TORTURING, INDEFINITELY DETAINING, and KILLING EVERYONE else, as long as you get to steal from other poor people to pay for your precious foodstamps so you can waste it on GMO-laden toxic turd, while you moronically discover that you can't buy the same sh*t two weeks later.

It's called inflation, biatch.

Reality, I know right? What a concept. Should try it once in a while, when you can manage to stop looking at the world from your rectal windows, where apparently everything happens for you.

Guess since YOU LOVE having oBUSHma KILL all the brown people the world over, along with urban blacks and latinos over his continuation and expansion of drugwar via SWAT raids, YOU, ya dumbass, ARE by DEFINITION, a racist.

Now go back to your mommy's basement, umkay?

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul