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All Romney has "in the bag" is hot air. I think Paul supporters don't understand just how many people own a business or make a living either directly or indirectly in the "Defense Industry," more properly known as the "Military-Industrial Complex." These are the people who hate Ron Paul and his message of Peace. Can't keep those war materiel assembly lines moving and profits up if we don't have a good war or two goin' on now can we?

Are the majority of Americans really that brash, arrogant, and unfeeling about other peoples of the world? Would they continue to vote to destroy the lives of innocent men, women, and children in countries who have done us no harm, just to save their jobs or keep their "Blood Money Profits" up?

Ron Paul is America's last hope to be a great nation once again. All we are doing now is exactly the same thing Hitler did in WWII. We're invading, conquering, and occupying Sovereign Nations for control of their territory and their natural resources, i.e., OIL. Sadly, I think it would take wholesale bombing of American neighborhoods by the Chinese Air Force and invasion of America by 100 million Chinese soldiers for the average American to understand what we're doing to innocent peoples around the world.

To all of you mothers and Grandmothers who intend to vote for Romney on Nov. 6... How can you possibly look at your child, children, and/or Grandchildren and support undeclared war? Will YOUR child or Grandchild be fighting and dying in the next illegal, undeclared war? Will you think of the dead and maimed innocent children due to America's empire building when you cast your vote? Sadly..., probably not.

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Even under a Paul Administration

The Defense Budget would still be larger than any nation on Earth by a long way. The MIC would not be too badly affected. They have lots of foreign customers as well.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

You speak truth, friend.

We, the awakened, see right through the industry of legalized murder for profit. The establishment dinosaurs have no idea how to communicate with fellow human beings because 1) they don't know how to use an internet machine, and 2) they view most of the world's people as beneath them.

Truth is, their psychotic lack of intelligence is becoming extinct, and that's fantastic. We don't need them anymore, we can take our future from here, thank you very much.

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Here's the big conundrum in

Here's the big conundrum in the room... many folks in this movement agree with Ayn Rand when it comes to self interest and liberty, so are these Military Industrial Complex folks acting irrational? Aren't they just trying to protect themselves and their way of living???

I don't think we have right to hate these people, but we do have a right to hate the lawyers, bureaucrats, lobbyists, and the system that allows them to cheat the rest of us....

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It's plain ole second-hander mooching

If your monopoly buyer is the Government, spending the people's tax dollars, like those in the defense industry, Ayn Rand would be quick to label you a second-hander moocher, just as much as any other govt bureaucrat getting a paycheck off of the people via the use of force.

The defense industry, at as it is currently configured is not capitalistic. Who is the consumer of ammunition? The soldier who shoots or the Afghan child who takes the bullet? The demand has to be manufactured by government and the demand requires murder.

I don't think there is logical inconsistency between Rand or libertarian theory and what the MIC does.

And/but you're right that folks need employment and will take what is nearby and pays well and matches their skills, and my ire wouldn't be with them personally.

In fact, I just took a short assignment to write an article about the military from a client who works for them. I'm indirectly working for the MIC :-( (didn't think of this until now)


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But I thought all of the

MIC machinations was what was keeping us safe?
That's what the propaganda machine keeps telling me...(much sarcasm).

Great post - thank you!

Just read this which reflects the same (sane) mindset:
Complicity in the Demise of Your Nation

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul


However, maybe someone here can shed some light on the RP campaign contributions from Lockheed Martin.

I understand they manufacture much more than weapons but the fact that they have donated to the RP campaign puzzles me. I guess corporations donate to many candidates no matter their views just to cover their bases?

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm just well-informed

The donations are from individuals.

The listing of corporations as donors is a misnomer I believe. The donations themselves come from employees of those firms. So the US Army donations are from individual soldiers and the Goldman Sachs donations are from individual bankers. At least that is my understanding.

"Jesus answered them: 'Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is a slave to sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'" (John 8:34-36)

I thought this was consensual here

I have been here for two and a half years and just lately I have started to see a few new users supporting the military industrial complex.

I was under the impression that this was the very worst of serious crimes against humanity and the american people.

I am saddened that this post was needed to remind us of what I thought was consensual to everyone here.

This is something that I myself will not flex on ever so it is wasted bandwidth to try as far as I am concerned. I will continue to stand up against the tyranny imposed by the military industrial complex.

Unconstitutional War - "The story you are about to hear is true; the names and places are being changed to protect the guilty."


My friend - Unfortunately the MSM will not offer the truth as we see it and the way it really is. All we can do is continue to voice the truth until it is heard world wide.