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Former Santorum Louisiana State Political director tells why justified to fear Paul delegates.

HIS BLOG Titled The Great Paulista Delegate Steal

The convention was marred with controversy and confrontation though the heart of the entire matter was this: whether the Ron Paul forces were going to successfully steal the ten delegates won by Santorum in the state’s presidential primary.
Everything else are sideshows amplified in the blogosphere to distract from the delegate theft by representatives of a candidate who received a mere 6% of the vote in a taxpayer-funded statewide election that drew a record number of Louisiana Republicans to the polls.
The state GOP’s supplemental rules did not deny the pro-Paul delegates anything beyond preventing them from raiding the fifteen delegates that were awarded in a primary that Paul fell 19 points below the threshold to qualify for.
And where the Paul forces failed to win through the democratic system, they have attempted to hijack through “an overreach” in the caucuses and the state convention.
How dare these establishment types act to protect the will of the people and foil their attempt to steal the results of a statewide election!

And there is more more and a place to respond.

http://mikebayham.blogspot.com/2012/06/great-paulista-delega...



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Want to post this.... But I have no account to post

Mr. Bayham,
Although I did not attend the Louisiana State GOP Convention, I did attend the Missouri State Convention in Springfield this last Saturday. And being a Ron Paul Supporter myself, I was disappointed that we failed to elect our slate of Paul (and some Santorum) delegates to the National Convention. If only 70 - 75 more Santorum supporters joined us, Obamney would have been denied delegates. Instead, Romney supporters were joined by the vast majority of Santorum supporters to carry most of the delegate spots to Tampa for Romney.

Now here is my point...
Did we cry and make a stink? No.
Did we make meaningless motions designed to delay and frustrate our opponents? No.
We sat there and took it. That's what sane people do in a caucus/convention type setting when they are simply outnumbered by the opposition. In the case of the Louisiana GOP establishment, what you do when you are out voted at a convention is change the rules, have people arrested and act generally like a bunch of fools.

And apparently when you are Mike Bayham, you write a blog post defending the fools and accusing those with the real gumption to participate in large numbers of being thieves and deceitful.

Woe to him who calls good evil and evil good.

I wonder if he is complaining about North Dakota...

Where Santorum came in first, Dr. Paul in second, Romney in third and Romney took almost all of the delegates. I'm sure that losing Santorum delegates to Romney supporters doesn't bother him at all.

He is just another status quo Republican hack.

Rand Paul 2016 for Peace

delegate stealing, i wonder

delegate stealing, i wonder who came up with that

Mere 6% of the vote? Yet only candidate to draw 7000

people when the MSM can't black him out. If the MSM had reported the real news Ron Paul would be the only one left to challenge Obama.

hthomas

They have to resort to these kinds of specious arguments

because they don't have the real numbers of people that they are trying to claim they do. Their vote fraud shows plenty of support, and they should have no trouble getting as many delegates as necessary, IF the numbers were really true....But, the numbers are not true.

And so since they cannot invent real supporters like they can invent numbers with vote fraud, they have to invent some "reason" why our following the rules is "not kosher".

What they want to do is rig the elections with their vote fraud, have their trusted Party hacks be the delegates, and put on their stage show as if we were having real elections.
The only problem is that now there are real voters and real delegates and real participants that they didn't count on.
And it is showing that their numbers are fraud.

I wish I could vote you up on

I wish I could vote you up on this comment repeatedly. Well said and so true. Thanks.

Blessings )o(

Mike Bayham wasn't even at

Mike Bayham wasn't even at the convention. As a side note when the Republican Central Committee tried to meet after the convention they did not have a quorum because of non-participation. I ask Mr. Bayham what about North Dakota were RP came in second and Romney came in third, yet got all the delegates? The reason for caucuses is to help grass root candidates get a chance to be elected. If people are willing to spend $200 plus a Saturday and try and become a delegate; Santorum should have planned better. If we or the Founding Fathers wanted a democracy where the popular vote is all that matters they would not have created a democracy and not a REPUBLIC.

It's not easy for some of us to blog back at him

Too many hoops. Your comment is so awesome.. hope somebody will cut and paste it into the total moron's blog. Seriously. Now we know why American is in the shape it is in. These people have been in charge. Never again. The true guardians of the repbulic are now inforce to take it back. God Bless you Patriots!

I just did

KCOP,
Hope you don't mind that I copied and paste your comment,
but it came up with my name.

Don't want to take credit for you work, but wanted what you said to be out there.

politepaulite

Dear LynnDear, I have seen

Dear LynnDear,

I have seen your comments many times and feel we would be good friends if we ever met. Thanks for all your posts. I think I was wrong however after reading some comments. Mike Bayham may have been at the convention and left right after, but I know he did not attend the Central Committee meeting. Thanks -

we have both been members for 4 years and 22 weeks

I bet we already know each other.

Common ground. Did you have a Ron Paul friend named Stephanie that moved away from Louisiana?

politepaulite

I sent his letter to our TV station and Jim Beam American Press

I read Ellen Davis letter wanting an apology from the Excutive committee. And than I read this. I sent a copy of both letters to our TV news after KPLC read a press release copy from AP press saying that Ron Paul delegates wouldn't cooperate. I explained that I was disappointed that they didn't know about the violence etc.
I did get a reply that they received it with a thank you about 20 minutes ago.

I also sent copies to Jim Beam who is Lake Charles American Press political editor, because I didn't see any mention of the convention.

I want to thank the people like you, KCOP for being there.

politepaulite

If I had a blogger acct

I'd write this to him:

Mike, you wrote: “Soon after the caucuses, I spoke with the leader of the Paul effort in Louisiana, who assured me that the results of the state’s primary would be respected. However he was singing a much different tune days before the state convention…”

That is because your boy dropped out of the race then TOLD LAGOP who HE wanted APPOINTED as a delegate for him.
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/05/rick_santorum...

People are ELECTED as delegates, not appointed. If Santorum hadn’t tried to FRAUD the process, then the ‘respect’ you wanted would have been there.

Mike, you wrote: “That his candidate (Paul) also effectively suspended his presidential campaign…”
Ron Paul NEVER suspended his campaign and you know it. Such an obfuscation of the truth is shameful and reflects very badly on Santorum supporters who are honest, as few as that may be.

Mike, you wrote: “When the Louisiana Republican leadership adopted supplemental rules…”
In complete violation of LAGOP Bylaws and RNC rule 1(B) of the actual Caucus and Convention rules.

Mike, you write: “The Paulistas need to recognize that Santorum delegates to the convention should be actual Santorum supporters.”
What YOU need to recognize is that all Santorum delegates will be voting for Mitt Romney at the Tampa convention, so in effect, there is no such thing as a ‘Santorum delegate’. Everyone knows Santorum will direct every delegate he has to vote for Romney. If you think otherwise, you are seriously deluded.

Mike, you write: “It should be noted that Louisiana GOP leaders have already declared their intention to fill the vacant delegate and alternate delegate slots with true Paul supporters.”
This baffled me to no end. Throught your essay, you refer to Paul supporters as ‘Paulistas’ and suddenly introduce something called a ‘true Paul supporter.’

Here are some truths you need to come to terms with:
Santorum walked out on his supporters the day he suspended his campaign and effectively dropped out of the race. To try to claim anything now is pure ego. Your campaign is done, finished, out of the picture and deserves nothing.

In April thousands of people showed up to vote for delegates. You have NO regard or respect for those people who went the extra distance knowing the beauty pageant meant NOTHING. OTOH, you want to tell the world that those April votes should mean NOTHING. Fortunately for us, that election is worth MORE than the beauty contest where election fraud is guaranteed. Why don’t people get a receipt after they vote showing who they voted for? because honesty is NOT the best policy for a broken and corrupt LAGOP.

Your screed promotes election fraud. You advocate for the disenfranchisement of duly elected delegates just because the majority of them do not support two candidates who dropped out of the race. and you should hand your head in If I had written what you did, I would be hanging my head in shame. But I have scruples, something you are clearly lacking.

* * * *
At least I got that off my chest.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

Interesting that Bayham is whining. He was supposed to be

a delegate. He didn't even show up at the convention. Did the slate of 10 Rick S. delegates in the newspaper article all get voted down?

I posted this on his blog:

Mike, I am not sure what theft you are talking about? The whole reason to have the delegates bound is to insure that the candidate that they are bound to gets their vote on the first round of voting. The reason that they become unbound after the first round (in some states it's 2 rounds) is that if a candidate doesn't win then obviously having all of the delegates bound for a second, third, fourth etc. round would only result in the same stalemate. This is how the rules are, this is how the rules have been. It is not stealing to put a non-Santorum delegate bound to Santorum. Santorum will still get his votes and if he doesn't have enough on the first round, then let the games begin to see who can win the most delegates at the convention. Your bellyaching on this matter just shows that either you don't really understand the process or that you are just bitter and trying to drum up some sympathy from people who don't know any better. At the convention, you commented that the Paul people did a good job and that you picked up some delegates that you might not have if Roger were the one doling out the delegates. So which is it, the Ron Paul people are thieves or they gave your candidate (who has dropped out and endorsed Romney by the way in case you hadn't heard) a fair shake?

I was to angry to respond

THank you.

After reading other people's account, he seems to let the end justify the means when it came to how Ron Paul delegates were treated.

After reading Davis's request for an apology from LAGOP, and then reading this, what were they afraid of, now I know what Santorum's people were afraid of. THey still wanted his votes to count, but he dropped out. The people of Louisiana should than decide where the votes should go.

And the surprise, what was the Santorum influence anyway. It wasn't mentioned before the caucus. Living here, I think it wasn't as much about Santorus, as it was that Catholics have a majority of voters here in Louisiana. They don't trust the Morman, and they still don't see Paul as prolife because they don't understand his Roe and Wade stance. So they want to hold onto the vote to see if any new positions develope in Florida that candidates will make new promises that they like better.

politepaulite