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Open Thread: Where does the Daily Paul go from here? (I'm going to China)

I know this sounds funny, but I am literally packing my bags right now for China. It is not what you think. My wife, who is a neuroscientist, is presenting a paper at the Human Brain Mapping conference in Beijing. I'm just going along for the ride ;)

I was hoping to be able to slip out the back door and take a little break from the DP for the next 10 days or so, and let the moderators run the show.

But in light of the recent news - Ron Paul's email, and now Rand endorsing Romney - I realize it is incredibly unfair to the moderators, who do such wonderful work with such a thankless task. So expect a little chaos on the site over the next couple of days. The front page might not get updated as much. A lively and spirited debate is likely to ensue. But a little chaos is good, every once in a while.

But this brings up a point I've been thinking quite a bit about and would like your feedback on: The future of the Daily Paul. The Liberty movement is big and sprawling, and the only thing holding this faction together is Ron Paul. And now we are seeing it start to blow apart. People are canceling their subscriptions in droves. Traffic on the site peaked back in January. Ron Paul is retiring from Congress next year.

Does it make sense to go on with a site called the Daily Paul? What began as a search for truth has led us here. I'm not much interested in leading the masses into the Republican party. The Campaign for Liberty and YAL are professional political organizations that will no doubt carry on in that role. I understand that is the path for some, and I respect that. It is not the path for me, and I hope those who disagree will be gracious enough to respect that as well. This site will not become the Daily Rand.

But what will become of this awesome community? Is this the end? What direction should the community take from here?

All of your thoughts are welcome and appreciated.

I likely won't be back online for at least 24 - 36 hours. The flight to Beijing alone is 12 hours! I'll take some pictures and share them with you, somewhere, online. (Maybe here.)

Hold down the fort, be kind, patient and understanding with the moderators. It is really unfair to them for me to leave right in the middle of this. (Sorry guys!)

And if you can afford it, please make a donation to the site which will go to the unsung heroes behind the scenes here who make this site possible and keep this community together. We're good through the convention, thanks to the last moneybomb. Beyond that, we'll have to see. It would be nice to keep the site going through December 21, 2012, when we all check out anyway. ;-)

Thank you everyone for a wonderful ride. Remember that tolerance is the substrate of liberty, and freedom begins with you, It begins in your mind. (I've learned a few things from my neuroscientist wife.) If you are consumed with hatred, fear, anger or spite, you are not close to being free.

And while it sounds like a cliche, they're only cliches because they are true: Love is the answer. Find love in your heart and you will lack for nothing. It is the most powerful force in the Universe.

Onward, friends, with the LOVEOLUTION!

In Love,

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I'm new to the site as a

I'm new to the site as a member, and not much older as a lurker, but I feel that as Dr. Paul has been such a unifying figure, it does the liberty movement good to remind folks of his influence. I humbly suggest leaving the name as is.

Plus it's just so catchy


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Please keep it alive

It is dearly important to me.

I'm guessing the name "Paul" will represent something bigger than 77 year old doctor from Texas in the future, meaning that many people and hopefully many political candidates will tie themselves to the name as an indicator of principles and ideology.

Currently consuming: Morehouse's "Better off free", FDR; Wii U; NEP Football

Let's have a funeral

and then call it quits on this site. Not sure when. Definitely tie over everyone onto some other website and then call it quits on this one.

God bless!


"The world has never known more oppressive governments or bigger governments than those which profess the cult of liberty." - Donald Sanborn

Michael, have a great trip.

Michael, have a great trip. DP has been a great source of info and inspiration for me. I would like to discuss with you about a project I have been working on for a while. I live in NH so it is not a problem to meet you. Let me know if you can meet me. Thanks.

Daily Paul

Keep it as is. I'm a Ron Paul Republican.

Liberty Movmement Needs You

Hi Michael,

It seems to me that the Liberty Movement will need recognizable sites like this at least until the end of the year. Ron Paul is both our figurehead and mentor in this endeavor we need to see what he has to say between now and Tampa... and beyond.

Its crazy to think that after investing years of his life into this that the Doctor would simply walk away. The campaign may have gone off the grid for the moment while it restructures its strategy and tactics.

It seems that there are two phases still to come... The gap between now and Tampa, and the post 2012 future of the Liberty Movement. Everyone is focused on the former right now because we've put our hearts and souls into it... but it may be the latter which is far more important.

I suspect that we'll hear from Ron Paul in both the short term and the long. I believe he has been creating something which is built to last. This is mere speculation, but I think after all the gains we've made within the Republican party that the strategy will be to continue to 'remake' the party from the inside.

I've been an independent most of most of my adult life and I have never imagined myself as a card-carrying Republican. The thought is repugnant... But if that is the strategy Ron Paul advocates then I will become active in my local party and I will console myself in the knowledge that I am not alone and that together we are changing the party to something not repugnant.

In the meanwhile recognizable sites like this are going to be important places to rally and get information as we move into these next phases. I don't think a name change is called for in the short term and not until the movement begins to get its own legs in the post Paul candidacy phase.

We will eventually need our own identity apart from the good doctor, but I don't think it will begin to emerge until after the election. Until then... the Daily Paul should remain the Daily Paul and continue to be a beacon of Liberty on the internet. Just my humble opinion.

“Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty.” —Thomas Jefferson

Leave it as is!

Don't change the name. Don't change the format. The discussions are the only things that will change, they will still be liberty oriented but not focused on a Ron Paul campaign.

As somebody already mentioned, it should be a shrine dedicated to Ron Paul. He spent his life fighting for the things we need, let's not ever abandon him, even after he passes away.

'Cause there's a monster on the loose

I concur

It should remain on for liberty. What you wrote about not abandoning him after he passes away reminds me of when Reagan passed, there were pundits on TV talking about putting him on the $10 bill. That's great for Reagan, but I suggest Ron Paul will be added to Mount Rushmore. He may have been shunned in Congress for being among the very few and at times only one that was pro-Constitution and stood on that one principle, but he has single handedly done more for the country than any one person has in a long time and deserves that honor.

Take over the GOP,

I know everyone wanted Paul in the White House and it could still happen. But lets not lose our focus on the GOP party. We own Nevada, Iowa, Maine, and Minnesota, we come along way. If we stop now then the establishment won with all their lying tactics, and I am sure the liberty supporters in place now will be purged. We scare the hell out of the establishment, because they know the party is over when we take control.

In 2 or 4 years the economy will be in full collapse, then we can all say we told you so. Maybe then it will be time to get a real leader in place.

We need to keep the light on the Federal Reserve, they are the real problem with the economy.

I hope the Daily Paul stays in tact like it is as a reminder to all that they rejected the best hope in fixing the economy and corruption in Government. I am sure that both parties want the Daily Paul to just disappear.

Surviving the killing fields of Minnesota

Todays brainwashing: GMO's are safe


Yes, keep the light on the federal reserve, and also unifying the anti-war movement.

And keeping with Michael's and Ron Paul's principle of not selling out or compromising.

Enjoy the trip


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"It would be nice to keep the site going through December 21, 2012, when we all check out anyway. ;-)...
Was just talking about that with extended family in Mt Vernon, Ohio.
My great aunt passed at 90 and my mother's birthday on Dec. 21...she doesn't want to get a year older.
Happy travels to China!

“The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.”

– Thomas Jefferson

Thank you

First, I just want to extend my sincerest gratitude to you for providing with us such a beautiful site for us RP supporters.

Having said that, I think the site should continue on and should remain "Daily Paul." It was Ron Paul who inspired the creation of this site. It was Ron Paul that enlightened us into the the freedom movement and ultimately woke us up to the establishment. It is quite clear that the message and the movement will continue long after Ron Paul's retirement and at the very least, he deserves our commitment to him, even if that means something as little as the name of a website. The website will ultimately transition to all things liberty, not just news/clips that surround Ron Paul. But it's important that we never forget who began this movement, and honor his name with a simple title of an online community for freedom fighters.

Irregardless, I just want to thank you again for the hard work you put into this site. There's very few websites that I check on a daily basis, and this is certainly among the top of the list. Safe travels and enjoy your trip.

bumping with thanks to . . .

Michael Nystrom--

Have a good trip!

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Please have a very safe trip

I wonder if the DP is censored in China? I wonder if you find you are a political hero when you get there?

Unconstitutional War - "The story you are about to hear is true; the names and places are being changed to protect the guilty."

Its never been about Ron Paul

its been about the ideas and revolution and our next guy to back if Paul doesn't take nomination is Gary Johnson. Maybe it can be the Daily Libertarian.

So pleased to hear you are with us about Rand..

Michael. That is very encouraging.

How about naming the site "The Daily Constitutional?"

Maybe we can all get behind the Constitution Party and make it what we think it should be?

"Truth is an absolute defense to the charge of paranoia."

Daily constitutional has another meaning...


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As the host for the Daily

As the host for the Daily Paul, we will do whatever it takes to keep the site up. I hope you know that MN!

A great empire, like a great cake, is most easily diminished at the edges. - Ben Franklin

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Thank you Michael

The liberty movement has literally changed my whole life. Every aspect of it seems to have a new light shining on it, and i am forever grateful for all those involved in the movement. But, I am truly, and endlessly thankful to you Michael, and this little creation of yours. The DailyPaul has by far been the single most influential part of how liberty has come to effect me, and my life. I owe a huge debt of gratitude to the community here, and without you and dailypaul, who knows where I would be these days.

I will support you in whatever decision you make regarding this site, but it would sure be a tragic loss, not only for me but for the liberty community, to see this wonderful site float away like a feather in the wind. You and this site will always have my full support, and my subscription will continue, as long as i can help in anyway to keep such a valuable asset to our community going strong.

Fall River, Bristol County, Massachusetts

"When one gets in bed with government,
one must expect the diseases it spreads."
‎"It's not like I'm a powerful person. My ideas are."

A sad thought

To think of losing the Daily Paul. Yet sometimes it is the loss of something big that becomes the catalyst to other big change. I surely hope it's not the case though. I think many years from now when there are those that remember this movement and were a part of it and are looking back, not only are they going to remember our Hero for Liberty Ron Paul, they are going to remember the place where they gathered and felt at home here at the Daily Paul. This place has become the true to it's name and beyond. Daily people wake up and grab their cup of Joe and come here. Just like many might grab the Daily local paper. I also believe that if the Daily Paul was to shut down, the establishment would look at it as a win for them. This site might not of had the loudest voice of the last 5 years but it had a voice that could not be ignored. I will say at the very least we need a place to still combat the never ending lies from the MSM and seeing that DC is trying to make propaganda "legal" it is going to get harder to do so. Also let us not forget all of the Liberty candidates that have been inspired by this movement. Let us not leave them hanging in the wind.

Whatever you choose Michael I personally wish you the best. Have a safe trip, big love to you and yours and thanks for all you have given.

"I have found that being rich is not about having the most but about needing the least"

I would vote to keep it going

The fight does not ends here - we are merely seeing a slow down in heavy fighting. There are still liberty candidates that need electing. Perhaps the focus - as Dr. Paul tells us - is away from him and onto these others. The DP was once about a man - but now we can transition it to an idea based upon a man. Do we really want our hero fading into the sunset? No. We want him and his ideas to live on - and we NEED the truth to live on.

I know many on here will look at Rand as a traitor and go overboard - but I don't see it that way. Rand is putting himself in a position to move this movement forward - yes - perhaps watered down a little and at a slower pace than many would like - but in the end if we keep it up and we keep the movement going - he will have the power in Washington to make changes Ron never could. You can't just stop an aircraft carrier and turn it around - it takes a lot of time and planning.

The past 4-5 years have opened a lot of eyes that otherwise would be closed and this site has been a rallying point.

If it is a matter of it not being in your heart - I fully understand - but perhaps you would be willing to pass the torch.

Sorry to see you go.

This could have stayed the Daily Paul forever and continued to stand for what it has always been to me.
I think the path forward has been shown in Jack Hunter's video:

"Ron Paul is Becoming Something More Important Than President"


"I'm not much interested in leading the masses into the Republican party."
I respect that.
But since the future of our movement STILL depends on taking over the Republican Party (and would have even if Ron Paul had won the nomination and presidency) a site like the Daily Paul would still be helpful.

It is somewhat ironic that you are quitting just as our movement is poised to make its greatest leap forward. But if people are cancelling their subscriptions in droves, I guess that leaves you no choice.

Sorry to hear that.

The Virtual Conspiracy

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Michael, It is not just the Revolution, it is

also the Economy, Law, Off grid, Health, Art, Tech, Peace and Love that is the DP. This site is mostly about the EDUCATION that has been spawned here. This is what cannot die.

Thank you for all you have done.


1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

Thank You Michael

The movement still needs a forum and this is the best one going.
I don't see why you cannot continue to use Daily Paul.
Thomas Jefferson has long since been dead - but his memory lingers.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

I don't know, there is a particular flavor here

The rise of alternative news sites and liberty oriented sites has risen exponentially in the past few years. But there's something different about this site that makes it unique. A certain flavor I cant find anywhere else.

Things that keep me coming back:
- The civility, insightfulness, honesty, logic, determination, knowledge, enthusiasm, fairness and creativity of the members here is beyond compare.

-The tireless, helpful, friendly, talented and patient staff. I have yet to see an ego or power trip on this site unless it was absolutely necessary for appropriate purposes of site management, and even then it is reluctant and self effacing. Most of the staff just seem like regular posters. Frankly after all these years I'm not really sure who all the mods are actually. That says a lot about them, in a good way. They just humbly do their job in the background and keep this place running and don't make a big deal about it or lord it over anyone.

-The wide range of important news and topics, filtered through a Ron Paul lens, is such a breath of fresh air. In a world of full of fluff news, disinformation, spin and propaganda given with equally useless "analysis" from corporate talking heads, it really is an oasis.

-Basically if it's important it's on the DP and it's up to the second with opinions, expertise and additional breaking news and information. That's the pure crack of the DP right there.

-I enjoy the clean aesthetic look. The commenting system. The active forum thread system. And all the useful features that make this place so nice.

-I enjoy the fact you can speak your mind here (with the caveat of being civil) even if it's wildly unpopular. We even have regular contrarians, psyops and resident trolls here that are allowed to speak their minds and stir the conversation. Although I don't agree with what they have to say most of the time and participate in down voting their posts I think it is wonderful they are here! If an idea is right it should be able to withstand contrary opinions and debate or else it was not on very firm ground to begin with. Since the principles of liberty rest on very firm ground we are not bothered by those with differing opinions entering in here, as we are sure if they stick around they will see the logic of our positions eventually, even if reluctantly. There's not many sites like that out there. Most will ban you if you dare disagree with the hive mind. It makes for some very stirring and thought provoking debates when people can speak their mind without fear of being censored or banned. That is one of the things that got me hooked here in the first place. The many well thought out and controversial debates that went on about serious issues. Even though many of us think alike in here this place is anything but an echo chamber our an our way or the highway type place.

So that's why I like this site. I'm not sure where I'd go if DP were not here anymore. As for the future of it, I dont know. I guess that really depends on you. Im sure no one here wants to make you a slave to this site for our own personal satisfaction if it's not something you're interested in if Ron Paul is no longer involved in the events and campaigns of the day. I think it plays a very important role, but if you're not feeling it or not interested in it being used to support certain candidates, I can't say I blame you. Huh what to do? I think if properly funded it could continue on how it did after the 2008 campaign. The DP kept the message and the fire going. Can't we just continue on? That's what I'd like to see. So the big questions are, are you still up for running it, and will you have enough money, staff time and resources to keep it going? Here's to hoping all those questions are all answered with a Yes. Thanks Michael for all you've done, enjoy your trip! The Rand stuff will blow over as people refocus.

In the beginning

it's always a small group of people that discover something really cool and for awhile they are able to enjoy it, but eventually word gets out and more and more people start to come, and they ruin it. This happens with almost every 'scene', look at Burning Man for example. Eventually the ones that started it move on.

Thank you Mr. Nystrom for all you have done.

"The world is a dynamic mess of jiggling things, if you look at it right." - Richard Feynman

Have a safe trip, and dont

Have a safe trip, and dont let the TSA boss you around..lol ;-)

hey Michael Nystrom

what ever you decide or what ever you choose,

remember this:



For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

Hey man;

Hey man;

You've already done your duty for God and Country just takin the DP this far. If something's calling you in a different direction then listen to your heart, and don't let us hold you back. The real question is, "Do WE the DP'ers want to keep this site going?" I vote "Yes!" If "Yes", then "How much does that cost?" Let us know please. Thank you. Maybe there's a way to bring it down to a lower maintenance format or something. Some way to make constant daily supervision less needed.

Maybe sell 49% of the DP to... DP'ers! Let us invest in it and make it grow. I'm just shootin ideas out there, but I think the DP has become one of the top Liberty sites on the entire world wide web.

Shutting the site down would seriously rock peoples lives. The thought of life w/o DP causes heart palpatations. Also, it would be a win for the enemy. I believe we will find our way forward. Each of us individually have our own path before us, and mine won't be the same as yours, but it is my sincere hope that the DP will remain alive for as long as there is a world wide web, so that our paths may continue to cross, from time to time.

Your friend in Liberty;


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This is in line with my thinking about keeping

the DP family together. We already invest our time and energies in the site and the activities it helps to inspire. Perhaps enough of us would invest in an ongoing educational/activist community dedicated to finding and promoting Liberty in the world.


I will always subscribe to your efforts. As long as I'm able to donate you can count on it.

I think you could look at this as an opportunity to launch a new addition of the Daily Paul under a fresh name. After all, all of us liberty loving folks gotta have a place to meet.

Look at sites like Lew Rockwell's who have a great following. Keep it edgy , introduce innovative ideas and never sacrifice your principles. You would surprised at how many of us would support it.

We need a real place to get news and have debate.

I hope you enjoy your trip and be safe.


For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

There is no need to change a

There is no need to change a thing. Not knowing the viability of the business, it is hard for me to comment on that however. What I would say is this--DailyPaul represents more than Ron Paul. It represents a movement. The message should be honored by paying homage to the messenger.

We can never forget who brought us here. But that doesn't mean we cannot forge ahead without Dr. Paul. The DailyPaul should continue to carry the flag.

It is more than a daily news story. It is a daily attitude.

Oh how I envy you. The food

Oh how I envy you. The food is fresh, the women are little and smokin hot and there's oh so much opportunity for business everywhere!

Have fun!

It's your site. Do whatever you want.

I have personally reached an important change in my opinion about the importance of the DP to the Liberty movement.

Until last month, the DP was essential and possibly the most important part of the R3volution outside of Ron Paul's campaign of course.

Now ... DP is nothing. This movement has reached critical mass and will continue to grow and thrive with or without the DP.

I think if Mr. Nystrom would stick his neck out there on a more frequent basis with regards to commentary on the DP, depending on the direction he went, the DP could have continued to be an essential piece.

The fact is, the DP's importance is directly proportional to Mr. Nystrom's importance in the movement ... and at this particular moment ... mainly due to Mr. Nystrom's choice to remain in the background and not be more visible ... both the DP and Mr. Nystrom have become insignificant.

God Bless you all and special blessings to Mr. Nystrom

Obscure titles....

fitting handle. Obscure realities might fit better. Neither will ever hide your thin skinned, inflatable, windup doll persona.

You see, it is just such ignorance that we, with the help of patriots like Michael and the Daily Paul, seek to separate ourselves from for the cause of liberty and freedom, self expression and independent thought... but you are entitled to your opinion... though we may disagree.

Unity..... NOT canned groupthink!

Have a new name for you Michael.... "Michael...The RINO Killer"!

Give em HELL M!

If you can read this thank a teacher. Because it's in English thank a soldier!

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
- Alexis de Tocqueville

First of all ...

Thank you for your service.

Secondly ...

I apologize if I have caused you to think this way about me.

Thirdly ...

I am not asking you to think like me. That would be impossible.

Fourthly ...

I think you misconstrued my comment, along with all the others that down voted my comment.

What can I write that can clarify my comments above?

God Bless.

Misconstrued this?

"Now ... DP is nothing. This movement has reached critical mass and will continue to grow and thrive with or without the DP.

I think if Mr. Nystrom would stick his neck out there on a more frequent basis with regards to commentary on the DP, depending on the direction he went, the DP could have continued to be an essential piece.

The fact is, the DP's importance is directly proportional to Mr. Nystrom's importance in the movement ... and at this particular moment ... mainly due to Mr. Nystrom's choice to remain in the background and not be more visible ... both the DP and Mr. Nystrom have become insignificant."

The Daily Paul and Michael are many things to many people..."INSIGNIFICANT" is NOT one of them!

I have followed the DP for nearly 4 years....lurking....learning. You see, my homepage is set to DP and has been for many years. It is as much a part of me as breathing!

Until recently I fought my own battles (health, hardship, distrust) a remnant of a forgotten war (Vietnam). I've had the lip service of those "wishing to help", even within the VA. 1700+ pages of Drs reports confirming my health and situation compiled over 30 years....and all I get is denial upon denial for pension. Cancer has many causes. It seems the least of them is AO to a redtape bureaucrat!

Between surgeries and healing I restore and resell computers for support, and with my life partner reduced to part time employment, we struggle daily to make ends meet and raise her teenage son. We will NOT accept welfare, or the requirements mandated to do so! Determination and principles provide, not always adequately, but we are indebted to NO ONE!

Quitting is NOT an option! Doing nothing is NOT an option, but we must choose our battles wisely!

Lately I have watched our valiant delegates, even of late at the risk of attack on their persons, fighting for me, for you, for America the land that I love! Their sacrifice, which Michael has allowed the vehicle to make notable, has inspired me to (after all this time) actually believe that maybe, just maybe, I too have a voice to which someone may listen!

Insignificant? I say INSPIRATIONAL! I owe a debt of gratitude not only to Michael and the DP personnel, but to every freedom loving patriot who has inspired the text and content within this website!

What can you say to change or clarify your comments? "OOPS!" would be a good start, perhaps an apology to those who may have "misconstrued" your meaning, and a clarification of your comments, a retraction of your choice of words, and a renewed effort on your part to assist Michael and staff in whatever decision they deem appropriate going foreward.

I am one person who does NOT need to be reminded of how hard some wounds are to heal! I can only say that it is a battle within yourself that must be fought for the sake of your own peace of mind.

Hopefully your decisions will bring you peace!

If you can read this thank a teacher. Because it's in English thank a soldier!

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
- Alexis de Tocqueville

Well ...

The dailypaul is very significant to my life. I thouroughly enjoy the site. So I agree with you there.

What I was saying is that Mr. Nystrom and the dailypaul has become insignificant to the R3volution.

I meant that in a good, optimistic way. In the lull between 08 til now, the DP was a must to keep a portion of the followers motivated.

Like, I said, we have reached critical mass. We will continue to grow, with or without the DP. That makes it insignificant to the movement. Not insignificant to individuals.

Carry on.

A death creates a vacuum......

Your opinion is one I would compare to Romneys vulture capitalism.

Absorb the benefits, drain the wealth, indebt the holders, and sell the skeleton, writing off the loss.

I like Pauls plan better..... allow the market (people) to decide what is most beneficial to their needs.

Many have invested years, sweat and blood into the DP. It is a "working" force with market share which gives it value.

Just as Dr Paul will leave the "active" political arena if not the nominee, his message will continue....yes, but sites such as this are needed for longevity!

The DP is like the Continental Congress of freedom. The encyclopedia of liberty. The library of knowledge with books of every opinion and origin. A school of REAL knowledge!

To say it has outlived its significance is like burning old novels on the pretense of making room for new ones, instead of giving them a place of reverence as in becoming the prize in a museum or gallery.

We have "Halls of Fame" because people value individuals whose lives and offerings have merit worthy of remembrance.... The DP has just such a merit as well to many in this our fight to "Restore America Now". This is the campaign slogan of our worthy candidate and the message we choose to sponsor and immortalize!

If you can read this thank a teacher. Because it's in English thank a soldier!

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
- Alexis de Tocqueville

I am going to concede to much of what you said here.

For the record ...

I have been here quite a long time.

I have gone by my real name here.

I don't wish to conceal anything.

Mr. Nystrom has banned me (I think) more times than anyone else here that is still posting under their original account. (which means that he has unbanned me more times as well and I still post under my original account to this day)

I have sacrificed a great deal for the DP (more than I care to admit publicly).

I am not saying that DP has outlived its usefullness.

What I am saying is that the R3volution has grown, and will continue to grow, at such a rate as to render this site insignificant relative to the movement. Period.

I hope that clarifies things.

God Bless and I do want to thank you again for your service to this great country.

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Thanks Rino

And when the time comes, once again, when there is something that I believe is worth worth sticking my neck out for, I'll most happily put it there on the chopping the block.

And I do believe that I have found that calling, in my local community. http://www.dailypaul.com/238568/corporatism-comes-home-to-ro...

Most certainly I would never do it to rally the troops behind Mitt Romney.

Blessings to you as well. You'll always be Rino to me.

I have chosen a similar path.

My influence at the local level is growing.

However, I would suggest that you reflect a bit more on your role.

There is still a great deal of potential in you.

If I were you (and of course I am not) I would look at this from a historical perspective.

Would I choose to throw stones from the gallery like the Libertarians have been doing for decades?

Or would I enter the game and make hard choices like Ron and Rand have done and fight the battle from within?

Obviously, I would choose the latter. I think you lean toward the former.

Please give it some thought and consider taking a more public position on things. Your destiny can still be at the local level, but you have been given a gift. You can do both.

God Bless.


1- Never sell the dailypaul.com domain because it has thousands of links to it from other websites.

2- Keep this website and simply change the domain name.

3- Forward the old domain to the new one you select.

Please excuse me if you think I am stating the obvious but what I am going on about is very important!


I try to change people every day. Do You?

The movement is bigger than the name

Ron Paul will be remembered as a great statesman and his name will be as well known as Jefferson or Washington. Nothing wrong with keeping The Daily Paul.

"Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms."
Ron Paul

enjoy your trip!

no doubt this will still be here when you return. In fact this conversation can wait until you return. Have fun!

I just wan't to say THANK YOU

I just wan't to say THANK YOU MICHAEL !!!...up to next time.
This movement is finished for now.Some other story is going on in which I and you don't like to be part.For DP...please shut down before Ron Paul deconstruction get full steam.

I say leave it as is.

Even if Ron Paul doesn't win, you could leave the site as a shrine to the battle that was (to us) worth fighting.. sort of like how some other people made tributes to Roddy McCorley.. Though I imagine the future emphasis of the site would be more on a frame of mind and influencing the world than electing one person.

I'm drunk right now, so bear

I'm drunk right now, so bear with me. But first and foremost, I would encourage some sort of physical meeting or convention if you will, of Daily Paul members. Then I would focus on finding some common ground and exceptional individuals that members of this community can coalesce around. If the liberals can claim the Constitution is a living, breathing document, then the Daily Paul can be a living, breathing web site. Hell, I don't know. I just know I'm not ready to go home from the party yet. Ultimately however, it is your decision Michael. Good luck in your endeavors, and rest assured that many of us will be there when you may need us.