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An OPEN letter to Jack Hunter. Just sent it to his website, and I publish it here for the Daily Paul community.

This was sent to him today as his latest video was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

I am tired of him using his front-page website platform at ronpaul2012 to push his GOP gospel and use it to tell us, who have all donated much money, blood, sweat and tears to this campaign, that the Ron Paul portion of it is over.

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Jack,

I have been a lifelong republican. Ex-neocon here. Reagan Bush Bush Dole Bush Bush McCain that is my voting record. Not this year. Writing Ron Paul in.

I think your latest video forces the issue and will alienate all of those blue republicans and libertarians who already hate the republican establishment.

We know you love the GOP and Reagan and everything conservative, however, there many in the Ron Paul camp who don't consider themselves "conservative" at all, but more "classical liberal", like Thomas Jefferson, or libertarian, or anarchocapitalist, or whatever the case may be.

Your videos are really heavy as to trying to force people (many of them Paul supporters) who already hate the GOP for the way it has treated us, to accept the GOP as their personal lord and savior.

Then, you take your ronpaul2012 campaign platform (there you are, always on the first page of the website), and after so many of us gave all of the money and time and effort we could to a campaign that has betrayed us and not followed through to the end, you get on there and state emphatically that "Ron Paul is not going to be the nominee" or "Ron Paul is not going to be president".

Thanks for shutting everything down before it has even begun! Shame on you, dude.

Oh and by the way, you insult the gravitas of the Paul REVOLution by continually comparing it to the "Christian Right" takeover in 1988.

The former is profound and will do much good to the party; the latter has harmed the Republican party more than ever and forced traditional Republicans away from the party where the neocons could take over.

If you are going to continue to use the ronpaul2012 platform to tell us that the Ron Paul campaign is over, and tell us that we essentially should fall into the Republican Party and become obedient to the process, as "good little conservatives", then you should step down and remove yourself from the Ron Paul 2012 platform.

Its not over. We'll take over from here...and it is time to take things into our own hands.

Chris
Norfolk, VA




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He doesn't care...

What the grassroots think. The cause for some has become a business and we just exist to write the checks and shut up.

He can continue his version of the liberty movement "crusades", thankfully nobody else has to go down with him...

Perhaps Jack could

address relevant topics like how Jesse Benton could reap $500k+ from the campaign coffers when the candidate plans on taking $39k as president?

Great letter

I'll say this, I might have been fooled by Jack, until now. I thought he was really with us! But it's all clear now. He's just another party above principle 'R' stooge. As for me, I've never been an 'R' or 'D' guy at all. Ron Paul cured my apathy.

I feel like I am now finding out who my brothers in Liberty are, indeed.

"If we lose freedom here there's no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth." -Ronald Reagan

When they took us off the Gold Standard they took away our money... in order to make it theirs. -OneTinSoldier

AMEN!

Trying to promote Rand's political future is the ultimate in party politics. The urgency is here and now! Time to Save Our Country! SOS!!!

Mike West

Thanks Chris!

Your thread doesn't need a bump, but just to let you know I'm with you, "Thanks".

doesn't need a bump..BUMP anyway

so it stays where people can see it longer

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Pagans are tolerant by NATURE.
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I Agree With You on This

Chris, you and I disagree at times but I agree with you on this letter to Jack Hunter and I voted it UP.

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Brothers in LIBERTY!

Thanks, my friend.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Never quit

If alliances risk being severed by voting one's conscience, then that is what is needed.

What ties so many of us here together is our steadfastness to our principles. It's this steady drive for purity that will win, and nothing less possibly can.

I'm not going to get old and tired and all grown up and decide that, well, I'm not an idealistic child anymore. I've stayed idealistic for a long time, and it has always worked for me, whether I knew it or not.

Thank you for writing this letter. I endorse it.

Michael Nystrom's fists can punch through FUD.

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Thank you Benjamin...much appreciated.

BTW...are you going to the state convention on saturday? I'm a delegate...so wish me luck.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Sorry for late reply

Unfortunately I'm not a delegate, and my friend who is isn't able to get off of work. To all Virginia delegates, go kick some teeth in! Hehe, nah, I think the only hope for Virginia is by somehow changing the minds of the existing Romney delegates, perhaps by questioning the reasons they support him.

Michael Nystrom's fists can punch through FUD.

whatever his opinion, jack's

whatever his opinion, jack's first statement to validate rand's endorsement is arbitrary. he basically said he had to in order to receive less slack from other republicans about not being a real republican. ron paul didn't receive any criticism about his endorsement of chuck baldwin four years ago.

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And that is part of the problem...systemic problem...

People like Jack, (and should I assume, Rand) are too enamored with the GOP to be completely objective about this.

As a lifelong GOP member, I have never been enamored by it. As a matter of fact, stereotypical Republicans...bug the hell out of me...in a different way than the stereotype dems do.

I look at it like this:

Thomas Paine said that "Government, at best is a necessary evil."

I think the same could be applied to the supposedly august ranks of political parties.

There is nothing sacred, about government, or political parties.

Actually, there is something comical about them both...and because they are both "public" they both should be barraged with criticism and suggestions for improvement...as opposed to this nonsense groupthink herd mentality "oh don't criticize the establishment" mentality.

No. The age of the divine right of kings...is over. Thankfully...

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Your letter is unfair

Jack continues to do a great job for the movement. All this finger-pointing and recrimination are destructive to our goals. Jack, thank you!

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"Unfair?" What is this, affirmative action?

Unfortunately, with the Liberty Movement, there are plenty of disagreements. Alot of strong hearts and minds...and with that comes...strong opinions.

No matter though....I stand by every word I said, because it is ALWAYS OK to criticize.

[Obviously, you would logically be compelled to agree with me there, since you are leveling criticism of your own! ;-) ].

The way I look at it, I have helped to fund this campaign, and I have every right to level the criticism against Jack Hunter.

His videos as of late are vacuous, and repetitive. And they lack substance.

So, if you don't like what I have to say...then move on my friend.

We all have one thing in common, our love for Liberty, and that is what unites us at the end of the day.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

The campaign did not betray

The campaign did not betray you, Rand Paul and your delusions about winning in spite of losing the populate "vote" overwhelmingly betrayed you. Not the same.

I do agree that his defense of Rand's endorsement was very weak though. I disagree with Romney onm 100% of the issues, even his lying deficit-financed tax cuts spin. At least I agree with some of Obama's lying rhetoric.

Ventura 2012

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Dude...is that all you can take away from my forum??

Trust me bro, I am not deluded. [But I will overlook your insult].

I am moving forward. Got my state convention on saturday where I am a delegate. Founding a national defense of liberty convention where a new declaration of the defense of liberty (patterned after the declaration of independence) will be signed.

Onward, and charge!

However, we can agree to disagree: The campaign did INDEED betray (not me) but us. But that is not the end-all be-all.

We will put up with their incompetence, and move forward.

Dr. Paul is the brightest, most prescient politician in modern times, perhaps since the founding of this country.

His son, made a tactical error in actually ENDORSING a Goldman Sachs puppet. He could have just passed.

Jack Hunter is too enamored with the GOP, for my tastes...[and I am a lifelong GOP member].

Seriously, if that is all you can take away from my forum (of which I stand behind every word)...then have a nice day. I'll show you the way out.

Don't have to agree or get along. As a matter of fact...sparks will fly with liberty lovers...they all have strong opinions.

We all love liberty. And that is our common bond.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

What, I need to go down your

What, I need to go down your whole thing point by point? Don't get your panties in a bunch. I commented on the part I disagreed with. We are all of the same ideology, its assumed we agree and we post when we have something to contradict or add. I'm against Rand's endorsement but your ipse dixit attack on Ron's campaign doesn't stand up. the campaign was pretty good, in fact if they didnt do vote fraud/media fraud we would have won. Theres nothing the campaign could have done about the media and the fraud. the way that people always turn inward in this movement is shocking!

Ventura 2012

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NO. The only shocking thing...

Is your sheeplike, GROUPTHINK acceptance of the august and transcendent decisions of the campaign.

Well guess what, partner...I am not a collectivist...but I AM a capitalist...and I have "invested" alot of my own money into this campaign...so I can criticize, and i WILL criticize.

Criticism well deserved, too.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Get over yourself, I invested

Get over yourself, I invested this time and last time too, but I'll never forget who the enemy is. Fact: we win this primary if the media and vote rigging subside. Is that a bad campaign?

Ventura 2012

LOL, Brother, the best "shut yo mouth" when someone questions

whether you know how to discerned the Man vs. the Message, and are in fact moving forward with the R3VOLution regardless of what or who Rand recently endorsed, is to tell them:

"I am a delegate who will STILL be attending my State Convention to possibly head down to Tampa. Are YOU??"

Boom shaka laka!

Good luck at the convention, Chris! Give them HELL! SCORCHED EARTH!

Hey we're like only like trying to fully restore this 'little' thingy called the Natural Rights, the Constitution, and the Republic as a whole.

Sure, a walk in the park. And if you're a super duper r3VOL activist, that's just what you do on Tuesdays.

No pressure. xD

Predictions in due Time...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

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Thanks, my fellow warrior in liberty pal.

Right there with ya, bro.

Charge.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

WOW!

Well done, with eloquence and passion
You have defended your self I am glad you
Are on "our" side!
Liberty brings out the best in people!
Good Luck at your state convention
I Will be rooting for you! :)
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No One But Ron Paul 2012!
MindyNYC

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I love liberty-minded folks

We are such an opinionated, cantankerous bunch.

We should expect it.

People tend to be intense about things they believe in.

I respect someone even if they completely disagree with me. That is my natural right...as is theirs.

Love it!

Thank you for the well wishes. I have never been a delegate before, so I don't know what to expect.

I love standing for Lady Liberty. She is a fair maiden for sure...and I would give my life for her if necessary.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Ha!

I agree, I love to defend liberty and debate
those who disagree!
Intense... My friends and family are always telling
Me they can't believe how passionate
I am about Ron Paul and the liberty
Movement...
In my head I can't understand how they can't
Be!

No One But Ron Paul 2012!
MindyNYC

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Same here...and right on!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

There is no evidence Ron Paul

There is no evidence Ron Paul has lost the popular vote and much evidence that Romney did not win it honestly.

Amen and BUMP ! While Ron

Amen and BUMP ! While Ron Paul is saying let's go, let's get the delegates, let's take it all the way to Tampa - some in campaign seem to time their demoralizing bs right before an important vote, speech, or a money bomb.

Enough! If that's all you got, then keep it to yourself. We are trying to take this country back. He is the only true candidate of the people. So, if he has a bad day, we'll fight twice as hard to make up for it.
If you aren't with us, then get out of the way, and keep the depressing bs out of our faces.

RON PAUL 2012 * Restore America * Bring The Troops Home
http://www.texasuncensored.blogspot.com

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Right on, my friend!

Concur!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Why does nobody ever post a

Why does nobody ever post a closed letter?