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What the heck was I thinking

What in the heck was I thinking when I wrote this drivel. (I just edited a post from a long time ago).

Haven't logged in a looong time. Syria has brought me back to the place of sanity. Hello Daily Paul!



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well...

Public shame? Or Liberty?

Whats it gonna be?

Seek_Truth

christ almighty you're an

christ almighty you're an idiot

.

Really?

L!O!L!

Couldn't help it!

"When I say liberty I do not simply mean what is referred to as 'free enterprise.' I mean liberty of the individual to think his own thoughts and live his own life as he desires to think and to live..." - Robert A. Taft

Best post on the DP ever!

Best post on the DP ever!

Rand may love his father

But he has thrown his lot in with the wolves, and he WILL FALL.

The following POST was on DailyPaul back in February. Read the article linked in the post. It will explain what happened from then until today. There is no special strategy except to sideline Ron Paul; Rand is not "taking the fall"; he believes he is doing the politically expedient thing for his future.

I dare you to read the article. All the way through. It is Rand who is an utter sell-out and fool, at the instigation of a master manipulator: Trygve Olson. It just took a little time to see how much fool he would be:

http://www.dailypaul.com/210815/trygve-olson-should-be-fired...

Indeed Possible

My head is starting to swim from all that has been going on in the past few days. I wouldn't doubt this whole thing is a deliberate move by The Powers That Be's Think Tank Playbook to create dissension within us. Don't forget they have been doing everything they can, short of killing, to stop us. Rand may be being "played" or "playing" along for reasons we fully don't understand yet.

Pit Son against Father, Father against Son, Followers against Son, Followers against Followers. Dont' fall prey to the evil that is attempting to invade us. The evil has been infiltrating to co-opt us as part of their strategy to stop us. Trust in the "Fight for Freedom and Liberty", nothing else.

“Lack of faith, treachery, arguments and animosity only breed malevolence. It is in the best interest of all to avoid this and tread on the path of progress.”

Well heck then we better go

Well heck then we better go ahead and bomb Iran while we are at it...in case they do nuke us... Cause think what fox news would say... heck go ahead and jail every American in case they are a terrorist... think what fox would say if one flew a plan into a building... Come on what kind of logic is this... We all love Ron Paul because he does not bow to this crap...

Ron Paul is NOT responsible for an Obama 2nd term.

I would be more concerned about a small Romney win and Rand taking responsibilty for that.

THAT is what you have to think about. How can you in good conscience support him?

Unfortunately Billy

it does not work like that. Fox, talk radio and the establishment would make sure the sheeple followed.

We just took over state party organizations, Romney will lose, and the Paul people would have been the cause, huge backlash from the sheeple, our movement all for not.

Rand stopped that with his lackluster endorsement.

Since Ron Paul has not endorsed Romney himself,

nothing has really changed. I hope all of you delegates will continue on to Tampa. I'm still hoping we will win. But irregardless - people are beginning to open their minds to a better way. Ron Paul wants the Republican party to return to its roots with our and his influence. I guess he didn't run as a libertarian because it was a long shot. If Ron doesn't win, I suppose I will hold my nose and vote for Romney - even though I said I wouldn't. It makes me angry to think about it. If Romney becomes president - we must e-mail bomb and call him incessantly to make him toe the line.

Maybe I should recind my earlier comment about holding my nose

and voting for Romney if Ron doesn't win. I don't really know what the heck to do if Ron doesn't win. Ron's the best! I cry thinking of any of the other candidates winning. Politicians, bankers, Bilderberg have driven this country to the ground.

don't vote Romney

write Paul in, but for now help getting delegates

Yeah, perhaps I will.

What good does it ever do to vote the lesser of two evils?

NONE

of course. Evil is evil. Voting is endorsement.

Rand is no bullet catcher

Are you serious??? Listen, I'm not sure what to think about Rand cozying up to Mitt. Might a VP slot help the movement in the long run? Sure, especially if the "price" was a real reconsideration of NDAA, the FED and the foreign wars. But I have no idea if Rand is so good and so noble (and also such a good double-agent) that we can be sure of some progress in the Liberty movement.

But one thing I am pretty sure of: this is NOT Rand "taking a bullet" for his dad. No freakin' way! Ron Paul has big brass ones and has never backed down in 30 yrs. Why would his pip=squeak of a son have to protect him? Would anyone on the DP have hated Ron for another Obama term?? NO! Most have sworn NOT to vote ROMNEY regardless of who the VP is. Moreover, Ron Paul has been billed as "irrelevant" for 5 years now so blaming him for Obama's victory would be a bit stupid. (Yes, I know the sheeple's memory is short and they'll be easily convinced... but still.)

I'll withold judgement on Rand Paul. RIght now I'm too busy feeling sad for the good Dr. Because, regardless of whether this move is smart or stupid, he has given us his all and has done his best, however imperfect that may be.

Right on, MJVMD03

Ron has given us his best. And I agree with you.

Gwen Kraft

"Personal Liberty & Personal Responsibility" -- Dr. Ron Paul

"A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom." -- Bob Dylan

Know this ... in the

Know this ... in the political sense (and many of us who were there from day 1...on the ground and online know) there would really be no Rand Paul had it not been for us such as DP and RPF in the Liberty movement. WE financed Rand to be legit. We supported him online and off. Conversely, the entire Republican Establishment ...and a literal army of K Street crowd in DC was funding and helping the other guy.

Only thing that is clear

Is Ron Paul turned the Texas GOP convention into a rally yesterday. And those who saw that didn't get discouraged over whatever Rand's move was.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BS7AFqukV0&feature=youtu.be

Who would Rand Paul be if...

Headline: The Trouble with Rand Paul
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-post-trouble-rand-paul

John Aziz writes on Zero Hedge:

Who would Rand Paul be if he wasn’t Ron Paul’s son? Just another neocon. Neocons often have a few “unfashionable” libertarian or constitutionalist sympathies; look at Charles Krauthammer. But — unlike Ron Paul — the neocon never has the spine to do much about their libertarian or constitutionalist sympathies. They just ride on the establishment steamroller, into foreign occupations, empire building, corporate welfare, and banking bailouts. Into Iraq, and soon into Iran.

Rand Paul just got on the steamroller.

Rand, we don't need you--you need us.

This betrayal is astonishing and unforgivable. What prevented you from endorsing the choice of the convention delegates, after the vote?

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

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Rand Paul's endorsement of Romney ensures that Obama will win.

Rand Paul is seen as a member of Tea Party Movement and the Ron Paul Liberty Movement. By Rand Paul's endorsement, now both movements are in bed with Romney. That endorsement does not bring in one vote for Romney from neither Ron Paul supporters nor the Tea Party. Neither will vote for Romney. Ron Paul legacy would have remained intact without this endorsement, IMO. Ron Paul would be blamed by the GOP/NeoCons for a Romney loss to Obama as a scapegoat for their own failings as a Party. The GOP has treated Ron Paul like a third class citizen for his entire 22 year tenure as a U.S. Congressman.

Google Jeremiah Denton.

You are quite right.

The official endorsement was on Napalitano's Fox show.

Rand never said endorse to Sean.

Sean pwned the DP! Outfoxed.

Free includes debt-free!

I tried to get

PPl to see that by posting the youtube vid. I got some strange comment on it. LOL He said support on Hannity. He did not say Endorse. Just as Ron Pauls speach at the Tx Conv yesterday was supposed to be about uniting the party. He did the opposite: ""Uniting (the party) is very important," he told a crowd of thousands of Republicans gathered at the Fort Worth Convention Center for the first day of the state convention. "But you have to ask - what are you going to unite around?

"If you unite behind the things that cost money, what good is that?" he said. "We have to unite on the right principles."

If there's any confusion, he said, Republicans should unite behind one thing, Paul told the crowd that repeatedly gave him standing ovations and chanted "President Paul."

"Why shouldn't we all just unite behind the Constitution?

Mitt Romney / Dr. Ron Paul

I agree with this post since people need to realize that Mitt Romney has been given the nod. Obama will not get a second term. Best Dr. Ron Paul's delegates can possibly do is get Dr. Ron Paul the position as VP or else fade from the scene. Rand Paul has not made any disappointing votes in my opinion, so grade the man on his actions.
grant

BULL SH-T

STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR HIM. HE IS A NEOCON AND AS TIME GO'S ON HE WILL PROVE JUST THAT.AND YOU WILL STILL MAKE EXCUSES FOR HIM.HE DOSE NOT CARE ABOUT US.

freedom420

I agree in part.

Don't make excuses for Rand, he knows what he is doing.

I disagree with what I perceive to be Rand's strategy.

I'm not voting for Romney, period.

But I disagree that Rand is a neocon. He is not.

We don't oppose Obama because he's a Democrat

We oppose him because he's a neocon/neolib tax-and-waste warmonger tool of the banking elite--exactly like Romney.

Crazy idea that Romney is less of two evils, he's equally bad. He's a liberal big-government governor of Taxachusetts who's never done anything in his life to reign in government spending or authority.

Republican Obomney hasn't said a SINGLE THING that conflicts with Obama, except maybe things I'm on Obama's side with--such as opposing DOMA.

Libertarians are against socialism and fascism--and the Neocon empire is exactly that: Socialism for fatcats and fascism for ordinary Americans.

If Romney wins, America loses. If Obama wins, America loses. Our only hope is President Ron Paul.

Take back the GOP and Restore America Now.

That is an interesting, and

That is an interesting, and DESPERATE attempt to stave off reality for a few more weeks.

No, Romney winning is bad!

How is voting for Romney going to fix anything or help us in any way? Romney winning shows that they can just push us aside and still win. Romney is AT LEAST as bad as Obama... no way, no how am I voting for Romney. The GOP has marginalized us and disenfranchised us at every opportunity. Voting for Romney is what they want and would make Rand's endorsement worth something to them. I'm not sure what I am doing with my vote at this point, but I'm sure ass hell not giving it to Romney.

I have a more believable

I have a more believable conspiracy theory.

Rand Paul backs the status quo by endorsing Mitt.

2016 Rand endorses Jeb Bush while at the same time trying to convince people that voting for a neo-con will lead to meaningful change

Just vote for the "R"