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LibertyUSA PAC launches master plan to prove vote rigging. Seeks help from the grassroots.

Time for the next lawsuit. Time for summary judgement for all the money we have expended. Every vote we've gotten out that has been cheated: every single one of them is cause for legal action.

This is going to work, everyone. This time, we're going to PROVE the rigging. It's all through the power of After-Action Exit Polls plus signed affidavits.

I do hope everyone knows the seriousness of election rigging in primaries. If you or I do it, we'll go to jail. It's the same for everyone else.

We have to prove it in the primaries. Because this is an extreme crime and there is legal president to put any such riggers in jail.

UPDATE: entrance and exit polls from CA and TX DO NOT match up with the published results.

For Texas see this: http://annebeck58.wordpress.com/2012/05/
For California see this: http://www.dailypaul.com/238404/california-exit-poll-results...

Imagine teams of Ron Paul supporters, on the phones and buzzing around neighborhoods proving the vote. That's the plan and we have to do it quickly: before Tampa.

We have been cheated out of both votes and delegates. By forcing the vote threshold down in the electronically counted states, hundreds of our delegates were disenfranchised.

We must prove the rigging BEFORE Tampa. This would help the court case on behalf of the delegates, because it would prove that hundreds more of them have been cheated. And these cheated delegates would join the litigation.

Our delegate count is lower than ideal because of cheating. The Rothschild & Co. machines were set specifically to prevent the gaining of delegates. Often, the final vote percentage was the perfect number that blocked getting any delegates at all.

We can solve this. This is by proving that votes were stolen. This
can be done with a relatively minor effort. It’s less effort, and also less money, for instance, than all the campaigning we’ve done. Moreover, we have a major incentive to do it, which is to get hundreds more delegates.

All those delegates that were lost are disenfranchised. All had their civil rights suppressed. Thus, they are all plantiffs for that civil rights lawsuit being prepared by Lawyers for Ron Paul.

This is by counting our own votes in every suspect precinct. We’ll have the exact number of Paul votes, and no one can steal them. No more corruption through electronic machines. Just paper ballots: our own ones, certified as affidavits.

People belittle us, claiming we are not winning. Then, when we do win, they claim we are cheating. Yet, if we are in a disadvantaged position and must resort to novel tactics, it is only because we’ve been cheated severely. We get blamed no matter what we do.

Now, it is the primary states where we have been cheated the most out of delegates. The states where we lost delegates because of this corruption include:

New Hampshire
South Carolina
New Hampshire
(and dozens of other states)

Let’s get ALL those delegates back by proving the theft of votes. The plan is simple. All we have to do is get proof of each Ron Paul voter in a few precincts in each of the suspect states. This is through a technique known as an After Action Exit Poll. We simply poll each registered voter, either over the phone or live through canvassing, until we get a real count.

When we prove the fraud and show the disenfranchisement of the delegates, we'll add those delegates to the lawsuit through LawyersForRonPaul.

This must be done in several phases. The first phase is the simplest:

• Each voter in the precinct is polled. You fill out the exit poll. Then, you certify it as true in an affidavit. You now have proof of irregularities and are ready to take the next step.

The next step is to get court-certifiable evidence:

• get the voter rolls from each key suspect counties (they are obligated to provide these)
• call each registered voter at the precincts and, then, identify the Paul voters
• capture the email of the Paul voter
• send the voter the link to the affidavit and urge him/her to notarize it
• if doing canvassing, do an after-exit poll on site; have the Paul fill out the poll click and then sign it; if by phone, email it to the voter

Option (and a good one): canvass the precinct, and identify the Paul voters in person. Give them the affidavit. Ideally, do this with a notary on-hand.

If you can’t notarize it on-site, get all the contact info and persist until you achieve it.

Have them fill it out and notarize it. Have them upload it to www.ronpaulvotecount.org.

So, again, start with the simple approach. Get the voter rolls and either call or canvass or both. Do the exit, give the voters the affidavit, and follow-through to get it.

If you are notary, fine: have them notarize it on-site.

We have two months to do it.

Any questions, feel free to call: 1-224-223-6712 or 1-847-875-6164

After-Action Exit Form:

ACTION PLAN in summary:
* Identify suspect precincts
* Get the voter rolls (the election boards are obligated to give them)
* Contact the voters and do the exit (either on phone or in person)
* Get an notarized affidavit for every RP voter in the precinct

Note: to volunteer for the vote counting effort sign up as a volunteer at http://www.libertyusapac.com/volunteer.html

Partners in this action: ElectionFraudRemedy.com & LawyersForRonPaul.

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WARNING! This is another end run to co-opt our real legal plan

WARNING! This is another end run to co-opt our REAL LEGAL maneuvers to knock the scumbags out.

LibertyUSA PAC has never endorsed hand counted paper ballots as the solution and instead want to water down the REAL EFFORT by focusing on meaningless and worthless strategies such as 'exit polls which cannot be used to prove a thing.

They want to drain manpower in nthe liberty movement to go on a wild goose chase. Encourage all liberty fighters to avoid this group.

No one wanted to believe WatchTheVote2012 and Lawyers For Ron Paul when we exposed these inadequate strategies as a diversion several monnths ago. When we insisted there were insiders and plants inside the Ron Paul campaign we were ridiculed.

Now we have been very sadly proven right on the money.

The Ron Paul insider traitors even went so far as to try and equip people with special cell phones from Google to participate in this bogus exit polling 'strategy'. They are scared to death of the Tools For Justice lawsuit(s) because this is precisely what might get Ron Paul the nomination.

Another "Operative" Here?

The OP "DrK" is a rigorous supporter of "Tools for Justice", which is associated with "Lawyers for Ron Paul"...??
You have even posted a link to them in your comments:

Lots of manipulation going on here..something's fishy.

"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!

In what way does trying to

In what way does trying to get grassroots people to go and take entrance and exit polls and getting people to sign affidavits of their vote detract from a legal battle to get hand counted paper ballots in the primaries? Those seem like two separate issues. You could even use an exit poll that shows a faulty vote result to push for hand counted paper ballots.

Here in Florida we have a bubble sheet that you fill out. You scan the bubble sheet and they keep the bubble sheets in case there is any impropriety in the vote. They even confirm the votes at each precinct to verify that the correct numbers went through.


What you are talking about (here and on other threads) doesnt make sense. You are wrong or you are lying. Pick one. Affidavits are accepted on courts as evidance. So please stop spreading lies. You are member here for Member for
1 week 10 hours.
You provide no evidence.
Dr.K.Research is RonRules on RPF(99,9% sure). Person whom I dont like because I think he is arrogant and smug and because he told me "It is better not to have a plan", and because he had no plan entire effort was ineffective.

What OP wrote makes perfect sense. if 10 people voted and 5 of them voted for Ron Paul but results say only 3 voted for Ron then there is election fraud. You contact those 10 people and they sign affidavit for whom they voted. If you get 5 affidavits that they voted for Ron you have proven fraud.
By simply goiung to
you can verify that thery ARE behind this effort.

They haven't just disenfranchised the delegates,

they have frauded the American Citizens from an honest and legal election process and it's been going on for years. Reference bush and obomney. This goes way beyond it just being about Ron Paul and now is the time to stop it. The documented evidence, the 1st hand testimonials, the video coverage of the fraud they have perpetrated is over the top and there is no denying that fraud has been committed.

Very organized Dr K

I'm in Ohio and although I can't be there to help, I lend my moral support.

Good Work.



Wow RON PAUL CAMPAIGN, must the Grassroots do everything?


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As I responded to another very similar post: We are not Ron Paul's followers, but rather he is our candidate. It is our job to defend him, not the other way around.


Time is of the essence.
"and dozen of other states"
Yes like Maine, SC, Georgia, Alaska, Nevada.....add to the list.
The votes were flipped.

Keepin' it real.

Is TN?

Is TN?


folks, this post is so fishy

Please be careful. Dr. K may not even realize what he's being used for. These posts have been showing up for weeks and they all play upon the emotions of the grassroots...promising to expose voter fraud right around the corner.

Any experienced campaigner knows that Ron Paul isn't winning large percentages...the establishment has no need of flipping votes because of the media blackout. This seems like a scam to me. Especially if someone is soliciting by phone...and using the website as a home base. Notice how the website looks very popular because they embedded the official Ron Paul page with 900k "likes" next to "Become a Facebook fan."

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he is sensationalistic

Once posting "Romney is finished. Abandoned by Christian coalition. Brokered convention likely.", my favorite quote from OP being:

The CRU (Christian Republican Union) is upset with Mitt Romney, notably with his positions on various social issues. Because of his failure to be forthcoming on their issues of concern, something fantastic occurred. The organization vigorously contacted some 650 'bound' Romney delegates and stripped him of them.

(Never mind things don't even work that way!)

No evidence was ever forthcoming, so the post was unpublished, and he was warned against being sensationalist, which, whether he's heeded is hard to to affirm.

"You underestimate the character of man." | "So be off now, and set about it." | Up for a game?

We still have to pick up the ball

Who is LibertyPac USA? This judge conducted her exit poll and the #'s were switched. Justice be done. Is it high time to go after the people responsible for election fraud or not? Say Dr. Paul gets the nomination... Obama/Soros would do the same thing as the GOP. Unless we stop it. We stop it by certificating every vote- every single vote- 100%. We can do this. I'll be glad to call voters.


Such an awesome proactive approach to deal with the obvious widespread ballot flipping taking place ... great work!

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Great plan!

Bump it up. This should be front page.

Widespread GOP Caucus Fraud: Full Scale Effort to Steal Ron Paul

Widespread GOP Caucus Fraud: Full Scale Effort to Steal Ron Paul Delegates Exposed


This is actually a good plan.

This is actually a good plan. We can actually prove voter fraud this way, and use our research to target the most likely places. They won't be expecting this.

I predict few will see this message. That happens with a lot of the practicle messages.

I recommend that everyone interested in this to SPAM this message in different places and networks and on forums here and elsewhere. People are more likely to see it with different titles and different people posting it.

I'll do that myself after I get back from my trip tomorrow. God speed.

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You cannot prove election fraud this way

At best you can speculate that things were rigged, but you cannot prove it ... not without almost 100% compliance which can never be gotten and even then some people will lie about who they voted for.

Why not spend all this wasted energy on getting the ballots counted by hand in front of eye witnesses and webcams and results posted at the precinct and on the web BEFORE the ballots even leave the precinct? Why not do that? This is the only full proof way to know your vote was counted and reported accurately.

Wait Just a Second There

..Did you NOT post links to "Tools for Justice"?
here it is:

You supported the Lawsuit THERE.
NOW you run "controlled opposition" here?


"Beyond the blackened skyline, beyond the smoky rain, dreams never turned to ashes up until.........
...Everything CHANGED !!


How can we count electronic votes?


We need to get control of this blatant

electronic ballot count flipping and this sounds like a feasible solution. How many primaries, caucuses, and conventions are we talking? I guess we have an Idea just by the shenanigans that has been reported. That's a start to prove the election fraud.