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Emotional Reactionism to Rand Paul's Romney Endorsement

Like most of you, I had an emotional reaction to Rand Paul's endorsement of Romney, anger. I also had a physical reaction, nausea (I think I can still taste the vomit in my mouth).

My intellectual reaction, however, came from my memory of Ron Paul running for Congress as a Republican in 1996. I thought it was a mistake, a sellout. Most of the Liberty movement did as well. We were WRONG. Ron Paul has done more to further our movement in the last 5 years than anyone else has in any of our lifetimes.

We need to take the long view. We all know that an immediate and emotional reaction is more likely to be wrong than one that is tempered by reason, time, and honest analysis. The Patriot Act is a perfect example of a knee-jerk reaction that was wrong.

I have had the benefit of being involved in the Liberty movement for a long time (I'm old). Only in our dreams did we see a surge in the Liberty movement like we've seen since 2007.

We have Ron Paul and his decision to fight the system from within to thank for that. I'm not saying that it's the only way, but it has to be part of it. Let's learn a lesson from the Trojan War. We can bang on the walls of the Federal Reserve until our fists bleed, but it will be a hell of a lot easier if someone opens the door for us from the inside.

All that said, I am no fan of Rand Paul. He is not as vocally against military interventionism as his father and he is too socially conservative for my taste, but he has an agenda we can support. He is working with Connie Mack on the Penny Plan which would balance our budget and reduce our debt, he wants to audit the Fed, get rid of the TSA, repeal the Patriot Act, repeal the detention clause of the NDAA, and many other things that further the cause of Liberty.

His endorsement of Romney gives him the political capital to put those issues front and center in the United States Senate. Did you foresee that opportunity three years ago?

We've been spoiled by Ron Paul. He is a giant of integrity and unwavering commitment to his ideals, but let's not forget that along the way, he made a decision to fight the system from within. Rand Paul is a Senator. Did we really expect him not to do the same?

I realize there may still be a little vomit in your mouth too, but I suggest washing it down with a cold beer, thanking Dr. Paul for getting us this far, and preparing for the battles to come.... together.

Long live the r3VOLution!



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I agree

I agree that Rands endorsement may have been an attempt to deflect criticism of his father and the movement which represents his fathers lifetime work. This is the only thing that makes any sense at all.
As for Romney actually choosing Rand as his VP, I'm highly skeptical. With someone like Rand first in line for succession, would make someone like Romney rather uncomfortable every time he heard a car backfire.

From my humble perspective, I

From my humble perspective, I think Romney would/should choose Ron Paul as a running mate. Rand Paul doesn't have the star power of his dad yet. Ron Paul is the real deal at least until Rand proves himself over time.

I think you are wrong about Romney. He would choose the running mate that is most likely to get him elected. Period.

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So you suggest you'd vote Romney of Ron was VP

Do you suggest you would vote Romney with Ron Paul as a VP ? That is not a easy decision. VP has little influence on policy.

"This isn't what the govern meant"

"Win the crowd and you will win your freedom"

I know that VP can't do a

I know that VP can't do a whole lot directly on policy. But that position is extremely high profile and he will be on the world stage for at least four years. It PROVES that liberty-minded people are not fringe and can get elected into office. He would be the greatest VP of all time and continue to pull up and support liberty candidates.

I don't believe he would accept the position if Romney required him to change his principles. Having a principled Ron Paul as Vice President of the USA would be a hell of a lot better than him sitting in a rocking chair in Texas somewhere.

There are a lot of potential VP picks for Romney. All with their advantages. I'm sure he has a bunch of females and minorities on the short list in order to diversify his base. The one thing Ron Paul has in spades that no other potential candidate has is a passionate base. The only thing, though, is that his base is not dumb or uninformed so we would need to be given a reason to agree to go along with the idea. That would have to be concessions from Romney regarding his agenda. You think that's crazy, but don't forget. Romney has no real principles. He'd change his mind on anything if he thought it would help him win. So, we could co-opt the empty suit to our advantage.

It's not nearly as good as winning the white house straight up, of course, but at this point we don't have a lot of options left.

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If unemployment is still over

If unemployment is still over 8 percent in November, even a weak candidate like Romney can beat him regardless of his veep.

Your other point is perfectly consistent with the theory that Rand seeks personal advancement e.g. get in good with the same slime, like Hannity, who smeared his father as a racist.

Well, I mean, you are

Well, I mean, you are right.

Romney may win just because of external circumstances. But that's not a guarantee. Also, that doesn't mean that he's not going to try to pick the VP that will get him the most votes.

I don't know... I pretty much despise Mitt Romney, so it is hard for me to swallow, too.

I guess it all comes down to whether people think that they can affect massive change completely outside of the establishment. It's a pretty age-old question.

We've got basically two paths:

1.) Continue to try to change/enlighten the core of the Republican juggernaut. That is to essentially wipe out the military-industrial complex mindset of the GOP and force the war-hawks and uber-religious to the outskirts. This kind of thing does happen from time to time.

2.) Build up a 3rd party strong enough to change all the rules that are set in place to ensure dominance by the two major parties.

Clearly Ron and Rand are choosing path #1. It is a decent strategy, but obviously includes maneuvering within the system. Yes, it involves befriending the jerk Sean Hannity, but think of it more as using his influence than anything. I don't blame them for what they are trying to do. It is damn difficult.

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Of course, Romney wants a

Of course, Romney wants a veep candidate to give him votes. If he chooses Ron, and allows him to go rogue, he would clearly pick up votes. If he picks Rand, on the other hand, I just don't see much a of a gain for him. Rand will turn off many independents and Democrats with his all-too close association with the Hannity types, support for the WOD, not to mention his childish comments on gay marriage. In other words, unlike Ron, I simply don't see the crossover appeal.

I don't think both Ron and Rand agree on 1. If Ron endorses Romney, then you are right. Sure.....Ron will run on the Republican line for strategic reasons but, unlike Rand, continues to leave the door open to supporting some one other than Romney in November and beyond. It will be a cold day in hell, for example, before Ron befriends Hannity. With Rand, despite Hannity's repulsive smears on his father, it was almost effortless. I can't imagine how a man of integrity would demean himself and his family in that way....but perhaps I'm an aberration.

I don't think option 2 is as you state. There are plenty of systems both in Europe that have "fist past the post" systems which have seen the rise of strong third parties in the last two decades. Canada and Japan are two examples but there are others. There is no reason that the U.S. has to remain an exception. We don't have to "change all the rules." The victories of Ventura and Sanders (as well as Lieberman and Milkulski) show as much. Now....as these and other examples show, a third party strategy is not inconsistent with ALSO working in the two major parties when conditions warrant. It is not an all nothing strategy as some GOP apologists make it out to be.

I WISH

RON PAUL would run for governor of a state were he would have a good chance at winning ,i would move there!!!!

indeed

My reaction to was horrible, as I also find it hard to endorse what is not real. After days of thinking, its strategy, and we know it. We have all made change, we have all been the change, and that is still going and as long as we walk that path, will always. I do not like one bit Rand endorsing Romney, but I understand, just as long as the goal is still the same.

For Liberty!!!

Beautifully put. Thank you!

Beautifully put. Thank you!

I also wondered what was going on

When Ron Paul went back to the republican party. By that time I was through the the republicans, they were total neo-cons by then.

But as we see, Ron Paul had not changed at all, and what is changing is the republican party, because we are changing it by standing with Ron Paul.

I was at first upset with Rand, but I will keep calm and what what he does. Is Rand going to change? I do not think he will, but I will be watching.

Grateful to Ron & Rand Paul for liberty & justice for all.

I take a long view. That is my way. I am on my quest. My possible quest.

Ron Paul has a wonderful quest. A seemingly impossible quest. We are witnessing his mission. His accomplishment. His astonishment. Those blasted paper-mills are printing in fear of Ron Paul's integrity & sway. The Printers-That-Be print little in the ways & means of faith... confidence.

Rand Paul is finding his way. His quest. His sway.

Please pause & reflect. Both Ron & Rand Paul have given great effort to change the course of history for the better. Helping us.

I continue to support them in their deeds restoring our Constitutional Republic.

Supporting Mitt the impostor policeman is not my way... Akin to another candidate referred to as "fake." ... "Because he is." ... [Furrow brow. Pound writing desk. Spill coffee. Static. Telegraph line drops connection. Fade lights. Intermission.]

This fake policeman is buying a stairway Heaven? 06/10/2012 Mitten by a badge of fake authority. Smitten by a mitten? A sordid tale.

Buying a stairway Heaven? How about perdition? 06/10/2012 Boughten by a Mitten. A fake one at that.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

Thoughts on Rand Paul

Firstly, this is a great post. I too had a reaction of anger and disappointment. It felt like someone had kicked me in the gut when I heard about the endorsement. I even tweeted Rand to tell him he just destroyed the momentum of the liberty movement.

And then, I thought about it over night. And then I thought about it for a few days. And here are the ideas and conclusions I've come to...

I have a strong feeling that this endorsement was not without reason. I believe that it may have been the price for Rand to be named VP. Lets face it: Ron Paul DOES NOT have the numbers to win the nomination. Even http://www.thereal2012delegatecount.com/, which has been much more accurate and honest about the delegate counts by only counting confirmed delegates, currently has Romney at 1013 and Paul at 229.

While the chances of my voting for Romney are extremely low, the thought of a Paul as VP does give me pause. Think about it. A liberty-oriented candidate as the VP, next in line for leader of the free world and with the President's ear. Think what a win that would be for the liberty movement. And think about the experience it would give Rand who may or may not have aspirations for running for President in the future. Lets face it, we have a President with no executive experience and look what that has got us. Would we really want another?

And even if this wasn't a price to be paid for the VP slot, it still has significant meaning and that is this: Rand Paul, at the very beginning, said that he would endorse whoever the GOP nominee would be. He's keeping his word. But, instead, of giving him credit for showing one of the same valued traits of his father, in some corners of this movement, it has turned into an absolute hatefest.

Why would Romney ever pick

Why would Romney ever pick Rand for VP over Ron? Ron has the experience and the following. Rand could not be a national contender until at least 2016 after he's proven himself a lot more. The Romney camp is looking to purchase the biggest voting block they can with their VP pick. Ron Paul already is well known (no no media circus to pick him apart like the did Palin) and he has an enormous following with momentum of people that Romney wouldn't otherwise get.

If this nonsensical endorsement has any VP underpinnings, it is for Ron Paul himself, I think.

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Rand Should

Just go back into the medical practice.

skippy

Sorry But,

There is no way to rationalize Rand's actions. NONE. To endorse the opponent of Rand's own father while that father is kicking tail WORLD wide AND while he is on stage in Texas (a VERY important state) and BEFORE the final tally in Tampa AND ON FOX was just every kind of WRONG!

skippy

I agree skippy d

I agree with you but just read the comments listed above !

The end game is in sight! mitt and the establishment had to come up
with something quick due to the fact of the liberty and RP movement making so much ground.
Ron Paul had to come up with something ,also knowing and being privee to the different senario's(which we are not) that are being played out as I write this txt.
IF THIS IS NOT THE CASE WE ARE THE MOVEMENT ANYWAY!! JUST AS A FLAG BEARER MAY FALL THE NEXT PERSON NEXT TO HIM MUST PICK IT UP AND CONTINUE!! COME ON RON PAUL YOUR THE MAN WE NEED AND WANT!!

yes, there is a way to rationalize Rand's actions--

remember JFK and Martin Luther King.

Dr. Paul has been 'allowed' to continue, because he's been seen as a 'lunatic fringe' and not a real threat--

and now it is being seen that he has a serious following, and that is scaring the 'descendants' of the men who planned to kill JFK and MLK, etc.--

the psychopaths who run the world have begun to get seriously annoyed--

and a choice was made, but Dr. Paul continues to teach--

I think he is being allowed to do so because of Rand's speech.

Time will tell.

Surprising things can happen, though--

it's obvious that at least a few people believe that millions of people who want liberty can't be stopped, at this point, so it has to be allowed to go on--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Oswald did not "run the

Oswald did not "run the world."

So You mean they would have killed him

The jerks at Bilderberg did say they wanted him and his supporters dead but Ron has been in politics a long time and should have already known that. If he had died it would have been REAL obvious unlike past hits by the powers that be. They ended Perot's campaign by threats to his family too. Still, Rand should have waited.

skippy

Ron Paul has never been more

Ron Paul has never been more powerful as he is today. That is a real threat to the globalists. All their tactics did not work- freak, fringe, racist, etc. Now they are seriously pissed and nervous. We are not "cockroaches" after all, as they claim. The tides are turning on them. I think Ron Paul can smile alittle for what he has accomplished so far. He knows his enemy. I don't like what Rand did but ohh well.

jvt122

If that was the case

They would have given him a time limit.

I think the idea that Rand

I think the idea that Rand can somehow influence Romney is simply wishful thinking. The people who control our world, control Romney and control Obama aren't stupid, they're not going to let themselves get infiltrated by the liberty movement and they're sure as hell not going to let Rand be VP unless he's kissed the ring and pledged allegiance to them.

I don't doubt for a minute that Rand believes he's endorsed Romney for the right reasons. I just think he's lost touch after going to Washington and being stuck in that bubble for a few years.

This was an awful decision though. I don't buy that this is strategy either. Honestly, he may as well have endorsed Obama.

Romney needs Rand much more...

...than Rand needs Romney. We have the advantage provided we don't blow it.

Cuimhnigh orm, a Dhia, le haghaidh maith.

You admit yourself that it

You admit yourself that it won't influence us in the liberty movement, yet then you contradict yourself saying it was a bad strategy. If it won't influence us, it was most likely a good strategy, because the only known effect is Romney delegate complacency.

And you can say the strategy was "immoral" but I would argue that you'll find few people who aren't energized by emotion that are willing to judge something that has zero potential negative effects in the real world as immoral.

Where's the contradiction? I

Where's the contradiction? I said the Liberty movement won't influence Romney and that it's a bad strategy on Rand's part to endorse him for that very reason.

Neoconned

Rand Paul always has been and always will be a neoconservative. This should serve as a wake up call for all the minarchists and Ron Paul libertarians out there. You can't change the system from within. Do you really want to wait 20+ years for the ideas of liberty to take hold in politics? Give up on politics and take direct action. Do not comprimise your ideals. Google- agorism, voluntaryism, civil disobedience, anarcho-capitalism, anarchism. The system has always been stacked against you. Quit working within the confines of their rules.

What do you Suggest?

What would you have us do? Start a civil war? That would result in martial law and then where would we be? Can't change it from the inside? Why not? THEY did! The evangelical rats infiltrated the GOP back when Robertson ran and it's gotten worse every since. EVANGELIST = EVIL AGENTS HAH!

skippy

Walk away and take direct action

I would never advocate aggression. Just walk away. Focus on education, civil disobedience, agorism or setting up alternatives to the statist system. Ignore the state.
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Could be one part of the fight.....

But if it's the only part, we'll be as relevant as the Occupy movement.

"The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident
which everybody has decided not to see."
— Ayn Rand (The Fountainhead)