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Alex Jones now demonising Ron, Rand

I'm not sure how many of you regularly watch or have ever watched/listened to Alex Jones' show, but I tell you right now he is selling our whole movement down the river and completely dividing us. He has posted numerous videos recently about how since the Rand endorsement of Romney, this somehow implies that Rand AND RON have betrayed everyone who had supported his candidacy.

I've seen comments on the videos of something along the lines of "I'm done with Ron Paul and damn him because I donated $2,500 and he sold us out."

and even the likes of "Ron Paul is a traitor/insider/pawn"

Of course there will be and has always been folks who simply never liked Ron for whatever the reason, but I stress the fact that many of the people who listen to Alex Jones are or more importantly were previously Ron Paul supporters. PREVIOUSLY Ron Paul supporters. Alex Jones has demonized Ron Paul and even calls on him to come on Alex's show to "explain himself." GIVE ME A BREAK. There is a reason why Paul suspended actively campaigning and why Romney and Rand met behind closed doors and why Romney attended Builderburg. We may never know the real reasons. However, Alex reported on his own show about an inside tip from Jim tucker alleging Ron Paul being on the receiving end of death threats at the Builderberg conference.

Why would Alex Jones report on Paul death threats stemming from Builderburg but not even acknowledge the possibility (at least not publicly) that Paul and his family were also threatened at other times and could have been a deciding factor in him suspending actively campaigning? And now Jones invites Paul on his show and even CALLS HIM OUT to explain the circumstances. Of course there's no way Ron would come out had something like this actually transpired. Alex knows this. Now he can freely talk trash about both Pauls crying to his fan base about how he "sold us all out," all the while knowing Ron and Rand won't say a word. And his followers are falling for it (What else is new). I'm not saying this is what happened, but I urge you all not to close your minds to the possibility of insidious things happening behind the scenes in regards to Ron and Rand.

If you look at some of the recent videos on Jones' YouTube channel, the things I am saying can be confirmed. I am more than inclined to think Alex Jones is trying to infiltrate and sway the Liberty movement. There are even more things regarding Alex Jones that raise huge red flags to his credibility as a legitimate alternate media source. He certainly is not "unbiased" and this is apparent from watching most any of his videos; especially the one's where he has callers ringing in to his show. Once the caller attempts to start to open a real truth dialogue, for example about Zionist extremists, Israel, free-masonic and lucifarian secret societies, the Jesuits, ect, Jones immediately disconnects their call and either dismisses them by changing the subject, or twists their words into something other than what the caller had intended to say or deems their comments somehow irrelevant. I've seen Jones do this over and over, because I used to watch his show myself. I never thought much about some of these moments until I started looking into Alex Jones and his connections to the Knights of Malta. If you just google "Alex Jones Knights of Malta" there is quite an array of information about Jones and his ties to this direct armed force of the Vatican.

The first article that comes up is actually from the campaignfor liberty site, in which a user 'abracadaver' goes through some compelling evidence. Here is the link to that: http://www.campaignforlib...

There is much more available on this on the internet and how Jones and Charlie Sheen were involved in a covert operation to make the 911 truth movement come off to the public as insane conspiracy. Just google.



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phh bullshit

phh bullshit

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this is nearly 2 years old

he's had them both on since and both were upbeat and positive. isn't AJ known to flip out and go off the reservation from time to time?

Bull****

Anybody that listens to alex should know this is a deliberate lie, he had Ron Paul on today and he always tells his audience that he supports rand 100% and he even makes excuses for him. He said today to Ron that he agrees with rand 97% and ted 95% he believes they can't give 100% or they would lose a lot of support from the sheep.

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Easy there.....

You are commenting to Veritas, who thinks that "The Davinci Code" was a documentary.

Never feed the mentally unstable.

"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."--Mark Twain

It wasn't.......?

It wasn't.......?

Alex Jones is exactly right.

I don't always agree with him, but he nailed this one right in the kisser, just as Lew Rockwell did. Between these two and Penny Freeman's testimony, there is really no room to be delusional any longer.

Admittedly, it's sad. But I think Ron Paul's fatal flaw is his tendency to want to trust someone, even members of his own family! It's sad that I even have to write that.

John F

Agree, John Fowler - something smells here & we want to know...

No matter what happens, though, Ron Paul is still a hero to me. The message is bigger than the man. There might be several roads to take but they all go in the same direction - Liberty and Freedom.

Never mind AJ or anyone else.

Never mind AJ or anyone else. Keep your eye on the ball!

Resist the temptation to feed the trolls.

The best thing to do if you

The best thing to do if you receive threats is to let as many people as possible know.

AJ is ranting in hypothetical - he said that numerous times on Friday. He is saying: "if these things are true, then..."

Ron Paul's "popularity" at this point are due to AJ, that is where most of us way-backers heard of Ron Paul to begin with. Some of you new to the movement may not be aware of that.

Ron would never

come out publicly if any of it was true. He wouldn't put his family members at risk. No one would. the WORST thing to do for you and your family is let people know...especially the wrong ones.

Your mistaken. You remain at

Your mistaken. You remain at risk by not saying anything publicly. Once people know, the cat is out of the bag and any action will be so suspicious that it risks blowing the whole op. See, if you don't say anything and they kill you, the story is theirs to make-up. If you say: "hye, these guys said they were going to harm my family." and something happens... its too much of a risk. You have to speak, its the only thing to do.

Something is going on though and I don't know what it is.

And after the cat's out of the bag

What's to keep them from killing his family discreetly? Nothing to stop that from happening. They're beyond sick.

Dr. Paul is in tough position

A father and/or mother always wants to see their child succeed, will support them and at times even do things the child wants they may not completely agree with. It's safe to say Rand is more establishment than his father and he looks to advance himself more through those channels. To do so, you have to 'play ball'. When son comes to father and asks for his blessing and probably explains why he is doing it, a father is going to want to help his son follow his dream and advance, even though he may be against the way involved. This is why Dr. Paul probably said he is fine with it and maybe why he is not heading third party.

As was seen in Dr. Paul's Texas speech, he is not going to throw away his ideals and unite for the 'good of the party', and this is why I and many others adore him. He is a consistent rock in tubulent waters.

As for Rand, I have to take this endorsement for a pro-torture, pro-war, pro-Fed, pro-giveaway trade, anti-gun candidate into his portfolio and it damages him. I put him a peg above DeMint. These folks will come over when we restore the republic, but we will need more committed leaders, more steady rocks like Dr. Paul at the very top, and we need to find them. Sometimes I believe we depend a little too much on Dr. Paul and not enough on ourselves to 'spread the message' as he says.

As for Alex, he is a supporter and he is hurt by it. So am I, and most others. Everyone handles it in different ways. I disagree with the tone he is taking toward Dr. Paul. If this changes his view on Rand, I can see it as it has me, too. I frankly don't believe in this Jewish conspiracy. There are evil people in every race, sex and religion that seek to purvert. If he talks a lot about it, it will drive new listeners away. Remember, we are asking folks to swallow a big dose of reality from the propaganda world they come from and if we go too far off the range, especially in these more wilder conspiracies, we will probably lose many of them - too much at once to take in.

well said, wise words

we're on the same page. keep in mind, Ron Paul has had his record for many years, but you think it maybe took Dr. Paul a few years in office to figure things out. Rand is still pretty young, and he's in his 3rd year in office! Ron Paul was more hawkish when he first went to Congress.

Mittens Romney is looking to up his conservative credentials. Im sure him & his campaign worked very hard to get Rand's endorsement. I doubt Rand just rolled over. Ron Paul will not be President in 2012, so perhaps from his perspective, it's all about his son. And as a libertarian, Ron will let Rand make his own decisions. I'm disappointed in the endorsement, but how many elected officials refuse to support their Party's nominee? Rand has done nothing to be labeled a traitor or a sellout- yet.

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"Terrorism is the war of the poor, while war is the terrorism of

alex jones is just a leech

alex jones is just a leech that has found a way to make money by stiring up controversy. Anyone who takes him seriosly needs to wake up and start living in reality.

Who Cares?

Alex Jones is an entertainer who cares about making money. He stages big scenes where he is denied a drivers license while asking us all to do the same...Warns against having a social security number or a passport...And yet somehow regularly vacations with his family in Mexico...Hmmmm..Can you do that without a drivers license, social security number, or passport?? I guess if he is sneaking his family back and forth?? LOL

He has a found a niche among conspiracy lovers and now has found a way to capitalize by promoting the idea that there is even a conspiracy within Ron's own campaign and even in Ron's own family.

Jones is an entertainer who wants to make money and everything he says should be considered in that context!

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Yes

and so many people who don't understand this buy into it hook line and sinker! So when he talks about Ron 'selling out' they buy into that too!

Who cares what Alex Jones thinks, does, says...

Obsessing over some pop culture shock jock is exactly what he wants... More views, more clicks, and ultimately more ad revenue... Stop falling into easily avoidable traffic traps... That's all he wants, you pissed off and watching his crap so he can make more money. This is just like how the radical Islamists attacked us on 911 to draw us into an unwinnable war where they can pick us off one at a time. If you learn one thing from the G W administration, learn this: don't fall for the bad guy's maniacal plan.

hmm..sorry

but "radical Islamists" did not attack us on that day. You know those "suicide pilots?" Yeah, well turns out at least seven of them are known to be alive and well.

Right, because the Internet told you so

Keep clicking...

Yawn. Where does Ron Paul stand on this issue of nutter inside job conspiracies... As far away from them as possible.

I enjoy creative writing as much as the next guy, but the fiction section is clearly marked fiction... Please stop moving the books to the wrong sections. Just leave them on the cart by the coffee bar and the staff will put them back where they belong.

Keep clicking?

You can keep sleeping! There has been extensive research done to completely blow apart the official story. The 911 commission and their report is a smokescreen.

There are enough holes in the

There are enough holes in the 9/11 story to admit we aren't being told the truth. Some people go farther than others on different pieces of evidence and/or theories which make sense.

One thing for certain is if the government is telling us the truth, then why are we allying ourselves and supplying weapons to Al-Qaeda in Libya and now Syria? And why is our media engaged in clear pro-Syrian war propaganda, as can be seen with CNN lying reports with 'Syrian Danny'. In terms of freedom, this is an event we should not take part in as both sides are bad. Many of the 'freedom fighters' are Al-Qaeda or allied to them. Something stinks.

You are right, JF. I was in Tower One on 9/11 and something

does stink. Ten years later, and I still believe there were explosives in the towers. No way a plane caused that much damage. I saw it with my own eyes from the inside.

But we will never know the truth, just like we will never know the truth about JFK, Nixon, Gulf of Tonkin, Waco, OKC, ad infinitum.

Alex is not demonizing Ron

Alex is not demonizing Ron and Rand. He is asking them to come clean and explain what is going on.

That's exactly what I heard too, Alex is right....

come clean with us! WTH is going on?

Listen for yourself:

http://blip.tv/prisonplanet/rand-paul-don-t-join-the-dark-si...

I'm just curious

what would you expect Paul to say if he were to accept Alex Jones' invitation? It can't be anything good if he never ends up going on his show IMO

Again, I stand with Dr. Paul and trust that he will maintain his usual level of honesty in dealing with these controversies.

Criticism doesnt = Demonization

and yes, people making YouTUbe comments (who I'm certain have been waiting anxiously for this day)are jumping at this perceived wedge in the movement. Ignore Jones if you'd like, but he (like many off us) has been invested in the Paul's and their success, as well. The RP2012 campaign has kept us all in the dark for many weeks now, and was operating at 50% since at least Super Tuesday.

It's true: the straw that broke the camels back was this BS about being "respectful", as our people are usurped and physically beaten- and the campaign lectures our people. They havent even tried to alert the media about the reality of the situation- maybe Ron Paul should have been in Louisiana last weekend, at least for moral support. In his teleconference last month, Benton spent plenty of time admonishing Paul delegates for booing the handpicked Romney slate and being physically assaulted. He spent very little time explaining what was actually happening at those conventions.

To top it all off, Ron Paul hasnt talked to anyone in over a month to explain whats going on. If you've worked hard, donated, and invested emotionally, I think you have a right to be pissed off. That doesnt mean we hate Ron Paul and think Rand is a sell-out (but going on Hannity like that was sick...)

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"Terrorism is the war of the poor, while war is the terrorism of

Here's the deal with AJ

I'm a big AJ fan. That said he knows NADA, ZILCH, ZERO about party politics. He doesn't understand them. He has no experience with them. He's never been involved in them.

Therefore, his interpretations of what's going on in party politics is skewed. Frankly, he's clueless.

Therefore, just IGNORE his views, rants, videos, material etc. on party politics. He's wrong on it, but not out of a nefarious reason, just because he has absolutely ZERO experience, doesn't know what he's talking about and can't interpret it.

No different than any other media outlet, btw.

Again, this is coming from a regular AJ listener and LONG TIME (since the mid-nineties) fan.

Very good explanation

I'm still a big fan of AJ, too, but I noticed this with drugs. I like how you put it- "not out of a nefarious reason, just because he has absolutely zero experience."

Sometimes he doesn't accept his limitations with certain subjects. I forgive him but disregard him when necessary.

Thanks for your comment

I thought you might like to read this excerpt from a user on truther.org later reposted on an unrelated message board:

"Originally Posted by piratecooper View Post
Alex Jones Cancels Speaking Tour 3 Days After Exposure As Possible STRATFOR Double Agent

On February 12, 2012, David Chase Taylor of Truther.org broke the story that Alex Jones was likely an intelligence tool for STRATFOR, a private Zionist intelligence agency located in Austin, Texas. As detailed in the original article (see below), STRATFOR admits to being an intelligence gathering center and therefore it stands to reason that Alex Jones and his affiliates of Inforwars and PrisonPlanet have likely been gathering intelligence, data and info on patriotic Americans since 1996, coincidently the exact same year that STRATFOR was founded.

February 16, 2012
Truther.org

Alex Jones cancels American speaking tour after revelations that he may be working for Israeli intelligence agency STRATFOR.

Founded in 1996
A global intelligence company, Strategic Forecasting, Inc., also known as STRATFOR, was founded in 1996 in Austin, Texas, by George Friedman. Alex Jones’ career was also founded in 1996 when he began his radio career with a public-access television cable TV program, but was quickly promoted and hired on at KJFK in Austin hosting a show entitled “The Final Edition”.

Apples & Oranges?
Prior to STRATFOR’s alleged hacking incident on December 24, 2011, the following data and information was present on the STRATFOR website. When compared, there is little doubt that STRATFOR and Alex Jones’ Infowars and PrisonPlanet are indeed one and the same:

http://truthernews.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/alex-jones-cance... "